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I hadn't noticed there was a week's gap, that's disappointing!

Does anyone know for sure how many episodes there are this season? I've seen conflicting reports of 11 (making next week's the (potential series) finale), but in a couple of places I've seen that 14 episodes were commissioned.

I liked that episode, but holy crap...a 3 week gap this time? I thought one week was bad. So there's 3 or so episodes left but now they're so far off I have to mark a calendar or make an alert so I don't forget it's 3 weeks from now.

Happy that there's more Orville (for now)!

Disappointed that we're getting annoying gaps - although when I'm still watching new episodes in 6 weeks time rather than it being over I won't mind that so much...

More reaction tonight after I've watched yesterday's episode!

I hated the premise of the episode but found it quite... cute in the end. Nice to see yet another Star Trek actor as well as a different take on the old holo addiction thing. Surprised that Greg wasn't played by Reg Barclay.

I really liked that one... shades of Geordi/Leah Brahms and probably a couple of others. But, with Primal Urges moved to this season the themes within REALLY felt a bit familiar.

A return to action next month then, with something firing purple lasers so not the Krill or Kaylon.

How much longer is that marriage really going to last? They really don’t seem to get along anymore really.

 AduroT wrote:
How much longer is that marriage really going to last? They really don’t seem to get along anymore really.

We already know Moclan divorce customs...

Is the new episode today or next week?

No new episode till april 11th i'm afraid.

Ok, thanks!

New episode on right now in case anyone forgot during the three week break.

Thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten!

That was pretty great. Yet another look at Moclan society, but they did a good job of asking a difficult question.

Bortus actually smiled at the end. First time?
Seth has a knack of excellent musical cues.
Interesting to see the Union Council in operation.
Admirals: Assemble! I think that was all of them together?

Troi!

https://trekmovie.com/2019/04/10/interview-jonathan-frakes-on-casting-marina-sirtis-and-what-the-orville-and-star-trek-discovery-share/

I always wonder when they do these kinds of interviews - do the actors & other folk really genuinely believe that line they all spout about canon and writing being the most important things on STD, or is it just what they're told to say?

So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.

 AduroT wrote:
So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.

How does it feel to know you're living in the planet's golden age?

I don't think the Orville's timeline has even been hinted at, has it? Maybe there's some sort of societal collapse in store, like the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome, that will see the next couple of hundred years become a blasted cultural desert.

 Riquende wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.

How does it feel to know you're living in the planet's golden age?

I don't think the Orville's timeline has even been hinted at, has it? Maybe there's some sort of societal collapse in store, like the Dark Ages after the fall of Rome, that will see the next couple of hundred years become a blasted cultural desert.

When they found the time capsul I believe they said it was ~300 years old. So they’ve got this thing where they’ve preserved movies and music and muppets, but don’t really know how we live.

I'm enjoying the setup in this 2 part finale, though I can't help but feel that not a single 'real' Trek captain would have made Ed's decision to date the duplicate Kelly, nor even considered it.

Although now I think of it, Ed has form for dating attractive time travellers that appear onboard...

Yeah, it was pretty bone headed to try and date her or even allow her to even consider the idea of serving on the same ship. While the ending somewhat redeemed it, I felt it was a meh episode overall. I did enjoy the Moclan euro dance floor scene though.

It was weird to see the married couple actually having fun together again for once. Lately all they seem to do is fight.

So how do we think Kelly changing the timeline is going to play out? I assume that she'll be more career-driven to make captain sooner. And also how does Ed's life change? My first thought is that he ends up a failure, but realistically he was having a good career before the divorce which held him back, so maybe he's captain of a different, larger ship?

I'm expecting an episode that starts in the new timeline as if nothing's changed for them, Kelly in command. The key difference will be something like losing an outright war with the Krill (thanks to Ed not having been involved and helping to thaw relations). One of the crew goes Yesterday's Enterprise Guinan-style "this isn't right" (not sure who would know that though) and they realise the best shot in the war is to restore the timeline... somehow.

Sounds very predictable and very likely. I really hate time travel episodes, last of TNG was good but otherwise they just tend to hack me off more than anything.

Think Ed will make either Admiral or an Alcholic and fear that Kelly mkII will be dating Gordon.

They do benefit from seven years advanced warning of the Kaylon betrayal, so maybe they also worked harder for more advanced weapons and defense.

I liked the episode, especially the ending. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

Also good to see the Kaylons have not been forgotten plotwise and are still a threat. I am surprised the meatbags haven't formed battle groups to attack or at least defend their turf more.

On the one hand, I like that they didn’t forget about the Kaylon threat. On the other, I don’t like how they depicted it. They’re basically just out exploring and if you happen to bump into any Kaylons you’re dead because they’re faster and stronger than you and want to kill everyone. They only survived by random luck basically. Krill encounters were at least winnable and not foregone conclusions.

 AduroT wrote:
On the one hand, I like that they didn’t forget about the Kaylon threat. On the other, I don’t like how they depicted it. They’re basically just out exploring and if you happen to bump into any Kaylons you’re dead because they’re faster and stronger than you and want to kill everyone. They only survived by random luck basically. Krill encounters were at least winnable and not foregone conclusions.

Well they were traveling, but it didn't say exploring. But yes, they treat threats like STOS and TNG, not DS9...

Sisko would already be leading cavalry raids into Kaylon space...

Sisko would have already flown to their home planet and defeated their new leader in a boxing match.

We live in a weird time were there are two Star Trek shows on and the one that is not named Star Trek is more Trekian than the one that is. I'm glad they are both around but over the last half of the latest two seasons I find my enjoyment of the two really diverging. Orville is just much better usually week to week. Orville pretends to be light and irreverent but actually is often about something serious or at least interesting. STD tries to be very serious and pretends to be about something but its becoming increasing clear that it's about nothing.

Almost forgot about the season finale today and missed the first 15 or so minutes unfortunately. An interesting episode ala Yesterday's Enterprise but I've got some nits to pick with it and I'll start in true Trek fashion with the most inane. What ever they protect the alcohol with whether that be a force field or gravity well in the mess hall on the shelves behind the counter, that's what they need to install into the ship's deflectors instead of the Moclan upgrades. That ship survived a battle with the Kaylon where it was almost destroyed and crashed into the ocean without knocking over let alone breaking a single bottle of booze! Whatever is protecting those bottles must be almost as strong as the windows on the STD Enterprise that can protect against megaton explosions that rip out half the saucer but can't scratch a viewport in a blast door.