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I just hope the show gets renewed at this point, it's a bit concerning at the moment.

 
   
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Is anyone else having trouble accessing the videos on the Fox site? I haven't been able to watch the last two.


 AduroT wrote:
So did culture stop advancing after our century? All they reference is music and movies and characters from our day and age and nothing from the three hundred years between now and then.


I assume we're getting the Universally Translated modern equivalent to whatever 24th century entertainment they are 'actually' referencing, a good translation rather than a literal retelling of all their cultural context.

   
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Outstanding season finale!

Hope it's renewed for S3

   
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Twice the Kelly was a nice touch.

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I liked the Elara cameo.

 
   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble accessing the videos on the Fox site? I haven't been able to watch the last two.


Shows typically have a delay in streaming viewing to allow partners their own share of it (like cable companies on demand). Yesterday the episode wasn't available but tonight I was able to stream the first couple minutes I missed from the finale.

   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 chromedog wrote:
Twice the Kelly was a nice touch.


Her "dark timeline" outfit was a smidge...distracting

Seriously though, a solid episode. A shame that we're probably about to be in a dark timeline of our own, since I don't trust Fox to renew the show, leaving us with only Kurtzmantrek.

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Meh, Kurtzmantrek will do me.

As long as it's not more elfs, wizards, dragons and s***e - it's got spaceships and pew-pew. TF AGoT is almost done, too.


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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Well, at least people who's standards are a smidge higher than "spaceships and pew-pew, and isn't fantasy" will have The Expanse.

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-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
I liked the Elara cameo.


When they talked about "The Lieutenant" I was half expecting the leader of the resistance to be Dann... but that would be a season 1 decision and they don't tend to go for that sort of thing so much now. It was weird they had lines that hinted at alt-John and alt-Alara having a history as it came from nowhere and didn't have a pay off. I don't blame Kelly for changing the future, regardless of Ed calling her out for ignoring temporal physics class (or whatever the line was). If you had certain knowledge that you were going to be the cause of your own divorce within the next few years, would you still be able to go through with marrying that person?

The music score was amazing (I mean, it's always a strong point, but this one went above and beyond). It seemed at times to pull so much from John Williams, there were moments it could have been a Star Wars soundtrack.

So yeah, excellent end to the season. It's concerning there's no S3 news, but if it does end here then it's a brilliant body of work all the same.


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Agreed. Whats the issue with Season 3, or lack of? Am I missing scuttlebutt?

Don't know if need spoilers.
Spoiler:
One problem with the alt Kelly timeline: why didn't she tell higher ups about the Kayzon when she went back?

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 Frazzled wrote:
Agreed. Whats the issue with Season 3, or lack of? Am I missing scuttlebutt?


No word either way, and I think S2 was announced about halfway through S1 so I guess it's a bad sign... but I heard something about funding being approved so no idea. I don't know how American shows are made/financed to be fair.

Don't know if need spoilers.
Spoiler:
One problem with the alt Kelly timeline: why didn't she tell higher ups about the Kayzon when she went back?


I guess she was still aware of not making huge changes to the timeline by telling people about major events, but still reasoned that marrying Ed was something she couldn't go through with. Either that or she tried but nobody believed her?

“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” 
   
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I guess she was still aware of not making huge changes to the timeline by telling people about major events, but still reasoned that marrying Ed was something she couldn't go through with. Either that or she tried but nobody believed her?

Fair point. However if they have entire classes on it at school, one would think there is a greater chance of belief.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Frazzled wrote:
Agreed. Whats the issue with Season 3, or lack of? Am I missing scuttlebutt?

Don't know if need spoilers.
Spoiler:
One problem with the alt Kelly timeline: why didn't she tell higher ups about the Kayzon when she went back?


What you're missing is that it's on Fox, Slayer of Sci-Fi, Canceller of Good Shows. If a sci-fi show on Fox doesn't get a renewal by the midpoint of its presently-airing season, people start to get worried.

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-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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AH ok. Thats helpful.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Plus there is the Disney Fox merger that just happened which will invariably lead to shakeups whether they be cancellations or shifts to the new streaming service. Additionally, at least according to various youtubers, Seth McFarlane's longtime contract with Fox ends this summer so he'll be open to offers on other networks/platforms if true.

   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 warboss wrote:
Plus there is the Disney Fox merger that just happened which will invariably lead to shakeups whether they be cancellations or shifts to the new streaming service. Additionally, at least according to various youtubers, Seth McFarlane's longtime contract with Fox ends this summer so he'll be open to offers on other networks/platforms if true.


Maybe we can all take some small measure of comfort in the idea that if the Many Worlds hypothesis is true, there's a universe out there where in just a few short months CBS will gakcan Kurtzman and hires McFarlane to be the Feige of Star Trek.

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-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/the-orville-renewed-season-3-fox-1203188078/

Well happy days.

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Happy days indeed, thanks for the link!

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Good gods above. Fox didn't cancel a loved show?



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Good to hear!

   
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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Good gods above. Fox didn't cancel a loved show?


A sci-fi one no less!

 
   
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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Good gods above. Fox didn't cancel a loved show?


The creator of that show makes crazy syndication money for them on Family Guy and other stuff, so they can keep doing this as long as it doesn't actually lose money.

   
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They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it. Uniforms? I'd get one. Phasers? Yep. 1/2500 scale starship models? I'd buy sooooooo many!


I really hope Wizkids doesn't fumble the license and forget to make Orville Attack Wing.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it. Uniforms? I'd get one. Phasers? Yep. 1/2500 scale starship models? I'd buy sooooooo many!


I really hope Wizkids doesn't fumble the license and forget to make Orville Attack Wing.


Wonder how close to scale this is;
https://www.shapeways.com/product/9CRNCJSWS/uss-orville-ecv-197?optionId=65084862

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it.


Now that it's going into a 3rd season, you'd think merchandise would be a given. Especially models. It's crazy that there aren't any scale models.

   
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 ingtaer wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it. Uniforms? I'd get one. Phasers? Yep. 1/2500 scale starship models? I'd buy sooooooo many!


I really hope Wizkids doesn't fumble the license and forget to make Orville Attack Wing.


Wonder how close to scale this is;
https://www.shapeways.com/product/9CRNCJSWS/uss-orville-ecv-197?optionId=65084862


Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'll have to look around for more options like that if Fox doesn't license out any official models soon.

However, that particular Orcille seems closer to Attack Wing size rather than to scale with any official Trek scale models, and it looks like it costs twice as much with worse detail fidelity than many of the unofficial Star Trek stores on Shape Ways selling similarly sized ships.

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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
They could probably make a ton on merchandising if they dared reach for it.


Now that it's going into a 3rd season, you'd think merchandise would be a given. Especially models. It's crazy that there aren't any scale models.


Maybe the wizkids clix deal will jumpstart that if successful. I saw the initial announcement but I don't recall if ship models were mentioned or just infanfry.

   
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Great news. This show definitely deserves anther season.

 
   
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https://deadline.com/2019/07/the-orville-moves-hulu-fox-season-3-2020-comic-con-seth-macfarlane-1202649836/


Seth MacFarlane’s space adventure series The Orville is moving to Hulu from Fox for its upcoming third season. The series will be available exclusively on the streaming service as a Hulu Original in late 2020. MacFarlane made the announcement today during the show’s panel at Comic-Con in San Diego.

As for the decision to move the series, which was renewed by Fox for a third season in May, Deadline hears the show has evolved and production timelines have pushed delivery, making what was planned as a mid-season debut difficult. The show has a passionate fan base, and Hulu was able to step in as a home where the show can continue. Following Disney’s acquisition of 21st Century Fox assets, Hulu is now a corporate sibling to The Orville producer 20th TV, where MacFarlane has long been under a deal, but Fox no longer is.

“The Orville has been a labor of love for me, and there are two companies which have supported that vision in a big way: 20th Century Fox Television, where I’ve had a deal since the start of my career, and Fox Broadcasting Company, now Fox Entertainment, which has been my broadcast home for over 20 years,” MacFarlane said in announcing the move.

“My friends at the network understood what I was trying to do with this series, and they’ve done a spectacular job of marketing, launching and programming it for these past two seasons. But as the show has evolved and become more ambitious production-wise, I determined that I would not be able to deliver episodes until 2020, which would be challenging for the network,” MacFarlane continued. “So we began to discuss how best to support the third season in a way that worked for the show. It’s exactly this kind of willingness to accommodate a show’s creative needs that’s made me want to stick around for so long. I am hugely indebted to Charlie Collier and Fox Entertainment for their generosity and look forward to developing future projects there. And to my new friends at Hulu, I look forward to our new partnership exploring the galaxy together.”

A move to Hulu allows more flexibility with episode orders and running times as well as production schedules, which was important to MacFarlane.

Created and written by MacFarlane, the hour-long sci-fi adventure series is set 400 years in the future and follows The U.S.S. Orville, a mid-level exploratory spaceship. Its crew, both human and alien, face the wonders and dangers of outer space, while also dealing with the problems of everyday life. MacFarlane plays Capt. Ed Mercer, and directed some episodes

“Fox Entertainment has been a fantastic home for The Orville and their willingness to support the show’s move to Hulu is incredibly appreciated; they really are great partners to us on so many shows and this is one more example. We’re thrilled as a studio to find this creative solution which is so meaningful to Seth and keeps the show on track to continue entertaining its millions of fans,” said Carolyn Cassidy, President of Creative Affairs, 20th Century Fox Television.

It’s unusual, but not unheard of that a series moves to a new home after renewal by another network.
Psychological thriller series You had been renewed by its original network Lifetime before moving to Netflix, and The Mindy Project also moved from Fox to Hulu, though it was at the time of renewal when it was clear Fox would not renew it.
The Orville has developed a devoted fan following and excels in delayed and on-demand viewing. In its first season on Fox, it averaged 10.7 million total viewers in multi-platform audience, up 149% from its Live+Same Day delivery. In Season 2, The Orville averaged 1.4 and 1.81 million viewers in adults 18-49 and 5.4 million total viewers. Its Season 2 ender drew a 0.7 rating and 2.92 million viewers in Live+Same Day.

“We know our viewers are huge fans of The Orville, along with many of Seth MacFarlane’s groundbreaking hit shows, and we can’t wait to bring Season 3 to them exclusively on the platform,” said Craig Erwich, SVP Content Development, Hulu. “Hulu is a home for the world’s most sought-after creative talent, and we’re incredibly excited to welcome Seth and the entire cast and creative team of The Orville to our Hulu Originals slate.”

The third season of The Orville will join Hulu’s lineup of genre programming including the Emmy-nominated Castle Rock from J.J. Abrams and Stephen King, Marvel’s Runaways, Future Man from Seth Rogen, the Into the Dark franchise from Blumhouse Television and the upcoming hyper-noir drama series Reprisal starring Abigail Spencer. It also joins MacFarlane’s other series on Hulu, including American Dad and Family Guy.

The Orville is produced by 20th Century Fox Television and Fuzzy Door Productions. MacFarlane, executive produces with Brannon Braga, David A. Goodman, Jason Clark and Jon Cassar. Jon Favreau directed the series premiere episode.





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