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 Elbows wrote:
A bit sad to see the Aggressors being the easy-to-build option. That's kinda weak.

Where have you seen that?

The link in the community post goes to the full kit, not the ETB.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
A bit sad to see the Aggressors being the easy-to-build option. That's kinda weak.

Where have you seen that?

The link in the community post goes to the full kit, not the ETB.

They also have sculpted chapter badges not transfers. So definitely not the ETB kit.

Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

You got Wulfen, a new Logan, and a slew of updated character models when your updated army list dropped last edition...what did you really expect?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

You got Wulfen, a new Logan, and a slew of updated character models when your updated army list dropped last edition...what did you really expect?

For a start I wouldn't mind an apology for most of those things....

So... the Aberrants are 5 to a box.

That's disappointing.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... the Aberrants are 5 to a box.

That's disappointing.

Why?

... given the fact that 4 codexes remained by the start of June, and the fact that it was unlikely russ coming due to the lack of leaks by now, it was reasonable to believe the pacing of SW was due to schedule. Now the lack off additional content in exchange for re-purposed kits was expected a mile a way. All those primaris rumors from before felt like a ton of wish listing from the start. If you lucky, you will get both upgrade frame & pack leader separate before they move to gsc next.

A lot of strange negativity and extrapolation off the back of the first weeks release... there's more coming, don't worry.

 jessagain wrote:
A lot of strange negativity and extrapolation off the back of the first weeks release... there's more coming, don't worry.

I suspect there isn't. the space wolves announcement is more or less what all the space marine 'dexes got. this is expected.



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Kdash wrote:
So, i had to pause that Tooth and Claw video in the article as i was reading the article at the same time... Had a massive "WTF?!?" moment when i read "Wulfen Dreadnought".

I'm curious as to how they are going to try and spin this. A Death Company Dreadnought i can understand, as i presume the mind of the Marine inside falls to the Rage, but, i didn't think a standard marine inside of a dreadnought could succumb to the Wulfen curse? And i'd be raising an eyebrow if they put an already turned Wulfen into a Dreadnought...


edit- it double posted for some reason.

there's still a marine inside the dread. why couldn't it fall to the curse?

The curse is about self control and a dreadnought spends most of its time asleep. There's no reason for them to ever fall to the curse from lack of self control and no reason to put someone who could fall in one.

Buddy of mine is a wolves collector and i've been GSC this edition. He's preordering for us to split

 jessagain wrote:
A lot of strange negativity and extrapolation off the back of the first weeks release... there's more coming, don't worry.

How do you know there is more coming?

 dan2026 wrote:

 jessagain wrote:
A lot of strange negativity and extrapolation off the back of the first weeks release... there's more coming, don't worry.

How do you know there is more coming?

hope is the first step on the road to dissappointment. for space wolves this is, TBH EXACTLY what I expected.

God forbid the SW faction is held to the same standards as other marines and "only" get a Primaris LT equivalent. The new bits indicate that there maybe a 2nd customization sprue on top of the existing one which other marine factions don't get plus the usual points discounts SW players have typically enjoyed in 2nd, 3rd, and 5th editions plus the benefit of coming late in the cycle when game design bugs with the new edition are mostly ironed out. On the chance there are new primaris units, we'll likely have them in the codex as opposed to earlier releases that will have to buy the yearly chapter approved instead.

Fear not, my fellow Fenrisians! The All Father will provide!

If this was the price of a Start Collecting Box I'd be in, but I think it more a Kill Team Starter Box price...

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
If this was the price of a Start Collecting Box I'd be in, but I think it more a Kill Team Starter Box price...

well given it's two start collecting sets in one I would assume the price would reflect that

I'd love that too, but sadly they say the contents are 2 starter box equivalents so I think it's highly unlikely,

I'll have to look for the GSC on ebay myself

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
If this was the price of a Start Collecting Box I'd be in, but I think it more a Kill Team Starter Box price...

It's $175USD for the Primaris half alone, not factoring in the cost of an upgrade frame...

Since there's no full rulebook, it's going to be less of a deal than Dark Imperium is but it's also full kits rather than easy to build stuff.

Guess I was wrong about the Woofs getting a big release.

Guess that leaves Orks as the big hope.

 Crimson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... the Aberrants are 5 to a box.

That's disappointing.

Why?

'Cuase when first showed off they seemed more numerous, leading me to think it was a 10-man box.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... the Aberrants are 5 to a box.

That's disappointing.

Why?

'Cuase when first showed off they seemed more numerous, leading me to think it was a 10-man box.

Buy two, problem solved?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

You got Wulfen, a new Logan, and a slew of updated character models when your updated army list dropped last edition...what did you really expect?

If that's all they were going to release, why didn't they put it out at the same time as the Blood Angels and Dark Angels? Why was there a 15 month wait from the 8th edition release (breaking the "all codices within a year" promise), the release of a brand new faction in the Custodes and a lot of other box games? It's aggravating to have been waiting so long with a mediocre Index list and now this is all we get.

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

At least its not more Super Wolf Wolf Wolf nonsense or a Wolfen Dreadnought that is partially covered in fur ....or some similar BS.

And its still more than most non marine armies got - oh and Sisters just have a single picture of a possible future model and some vague allusions to a possible future dex - nothing more. No sign of any more Sisters of Silence. Still waiting for Skitarri commanders.

New Genestealers look good.

Wierd no terrain in that box?

If that's all they were going to release, why didn't they put it out at the same time as the Blood Angels and Dark Angels? Why was there a 15 month wait from the 8th edition release (breaking the "all codices within a year" promise), the release of a brand new faction in the Custodes and a lot of other box games? It's aggravating to have been waiting so long with a mediocre Index list and now this is all we get.

Maybe they wanted someting other than Marines in the release schedule? Other factions are still waiting.

I do agree that just doing a Primaris Codex with the varied slightly different Chapter versions would have been better.

Heck, they came in 4s in Overkill... here’s me just hoping they haven’t changed the minimum squad size in the Codex in a spectacular douche move. I mean, I’ve got 8, but still...


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 Mr Morden wrote:

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

At least its not more Super Wolf Wolf Wolf nonsense or a Wolfen Dreadnought that is partially covered in fur ....or some similar BS.

And its still more than most non marine armies got - oh and Sisters just have a single picture of a possible future model and some vague allusions to a possible future dex - nothing more. No sign of any more Sisters of Silence. Still waiting for Skitarri commanders.

New Genestealers look good.

Wierd no terrain in that box?

Shield of Baal set and other 7th ‘it’s not a starter but it’s a starter’ campaign sets didn’t include terrain either, so not weird tbh.

I'm still holding out for a space murder frost mommoth vs Squiggoth box set.

And my Cult grows...

caylentor wrote:

If that's all they were going to release, why didn't they put it out at the same time as the Blood Angels and Dark Angels? Why was there a 15 month wait from the 8th edition release (breaking the "all codices within a year" promise), the release of a brand new faction in the Custodes and a lot of other box games? It's aggravating to have been waiting so long with a mediocre Index list and now this is all we get.

Yeah, that's why I too was expecting this to be a bigger release...


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 Mr Morden wrote:

At least its not more Super Wolf Wolf Wolf nonsense or a Wolfen Dreadnought that is partially covered in fur ....or some similar BS.

I was kinda hoping that there would have been some new generic Primaris units with this release. Wasn't there a rumour about bikes recently?

caylentor wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

You got Wulfen, a new Logan, and a slew of updated character models when your updated army list dropped last edition...what did you really expect?

If that's all they were going to release, why didn't they put it out at the same time as the Blood Angels and Dark Angels? Why was there a 15 month wait from the 8th edition release (breaking the "all codices within a year" promise), the release of a brand new faction in the Custodes and a lot of other box games? It's aggravating to have been waiting so long with a mediocre Index list and now this is all we get.

economics. First of all Space Wolves are the second most popular space marine army after Vanilla. we're in the new fisical year for GW, AOS 2.0, Killteam and ASdeptus Titanicus all came out in the summer, the same release area that we saw for 40k 8th. space wolves got delayed because GW knows the end result'll look good on their balance sheets. front loading 8th edition would have been a bad idea from a basic economics pov

caylentor wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

You got Wulfen, a new Logan, and a slew of updated character models when your updated army list dropped last edition...what did you really expect?

If that's all they were going to release, why didn't they put it out at the same time as the Blood Angels and Dark Angels? Why was there a 15 month wait from the 8th edition release (breaking the "all codices within a year" promise), the release of a brand new faction in the Custodes and a lot of other box games? It's aggravating to have been waiting so long with a mediocre Index list and now this is all we get.

All that stuff was done in 7th edition. It came with the "Curse of the Wulfen" book for the Space Wolves.

I get that you might feel like "I didn't get enough to justify a 15 month wait!"...but you're forgetting that in between 8th edition's release and now, we've had a whole new edition of AoS drop.

Also, 15 months is them "breaking the all the codices within a year"? That's 3 months. This is fricking Flash levels of fast for GW.

 Kanluwen wrote:

caylentor wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Justyn wrote:
Oh, this is the full codex release. After over a year. How incredibly underwhelming. If they were going to do a fast and easy codex like DA and BA I see no reason to have waited this long. Mediocre GW Mediocre.

You got Wulfen, a new Logan, and a slew of updated character models when your updated army list dropped last edition...what did you really expect?

If that's all they were going to release, why didn't they put it out at the same time as the Blood Angels and Dark Angels? Why was there a 15 month wait from the 8th edition release (breaking the "all codices within a year" promise), the release of a brand new faction in the Custodes and a lot of other box games? It's aggravating to have been waiting so long with a mediocre Index list and now this is all we get.

All that stuff was done in 7th edition. It came with the "Curse of the Wulfen" book for the Space Wolves.

I get that you might feel like "I didn't get enough to justify a 15 month wait!"...but you're forgetting that in between 8th edition's release and now, we've had a whole new edition of AoS drop.

Also, 15 months is them "breaking the all the codices within a year"? That's 3 months. This is fricking Flash levels of fast for GW.

Also it's not a break of promise at all. if Orks go up for pre-order on the 25th, and GSC's are the week after, they'll have comfortable kept that promise. it's just that the starting line was (reasonably) a year from the release of the first codec for 8th.