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2018/08/17 22:03:09
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
This includes City of Traps rules, which simulate the devious Genestealer Cults’ methods of fighting on home turf
Wonder if this will be part of their Battleforged Benefits?
Sure it’s not for Kill Team? Setting traps is part of the scout phase rules.
This big box isn't a Kill Team box, so yes I'm fairly sure.
Always a time for the first time to include rules for more than one game in a single box. Would be a neat little addon, and besides the characters and Dread it’s all usuable in KT.
This includes City of Traps rules, which simulate the devious Genestealer Cults’ methods of fighting on home turf
Wonder if this will be part of their Battleforged Benefits?
Sure it’s not for Kill Team? Setting traps is part of the scout phase rules.
This big box isn't a Kill Team box, so yes I'm fairly sure.
Always a time for the first time to include rules for more than one game in a single box. Would be a neat little addon, and besides the characters and Dread it’s all usuable in KT.
Not disagreeing, but I think if it were meant to be for Kill Team they'd have pointed it out as a Kill Team rule. They tend to be pretty good about that kind of stuff.
2018/08/17 23:16:30
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
This includes City of Traps rules, which simulate the devious Genestealer Cults’ methods of fighting on home turf
Wonder if this will be part of their Battleforged Benefits?
Sure it’s not for Kill Team? Setting traps is part of the scout phase rules.
This big box isn't a Kill Team box, so yes I'm fairly sure.
Always a time for the first time to include rules for more than one game in a single box. Would be a neat little addon, and besides the characters and Dread it’s all usuable in KT.
Not disagreeing, but I think if it were meant to be for Kill Team they'd have pointed it out as a Kill Team rule. They tend to be pretty good about that kind of stuff.
Agreed. If there were Kill Team rules that would be a selling point that they wouldn't forget to mention.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/08/17 23:18:44
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: I love that Storm Bolter relic because, ya know, what other Chapter would deserve probably the best range relic in the entire frickin game?
I think the helfrost round special ability pushes it a bit over the top, if it had JUST been the stats it would have been a stormbolter equivilant of Primarch's Wraith, good but.... but yeah this absolutely is Better then Primarch's wraith... and my Wolflord conveniantly HAS a stormbolter.
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2018/08/17 23:40:31
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: I love that Storm Bolter relic because, ya know, what other Chapter would deserve probably the best range relic in the entire frickin game?
I think the helfrost round special ability pushes it a bit over the top, if it had JUST been the stats it would have been a stormbolter equivilant of Primarch's Wraith, good but.... but yeah this absolutely is Better then Primarch's wraith... and my Wolflord conveniantly HAS a stormbolter.
Even without the Helfrost part, Assault 4 makes it better than the S5, because now you can advance and fire. And I'll bet you anything they get a Strategem that'll let you advance and charge too!
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2018/08/18 00:04:28
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
Ghaz wrote: I'm thinking the eel may have been a prototyped bit that never made it onto the final kit.
Yet it somehow made it onto the website as part of the painted stuff? It might be--but the base also doesn't seem to be 'right' for a 32mm base(which the Namarti are on).
It's still on there, I might add. In case anyone's wondering what I'm referring to:
Spoiler:
This bit is not present in any of the Idoneth range. I own at least one of everything (barring Lotann) and it just plain isn't there.
I've been thinking it's for an Akhelian character that we haven't seen yet, as it was surprising that we didn't get a "character on big mount"--or heck, it's surprising we didn't get one on a plain old Fangmora Eel.
edit:NVM, the eel does look different. My mistake.
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2018/08/18 00:19:37
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: I love that Storm Bolter relic because, ya know, what other Chapter would deserve probably the best range relic in the entire frickin game?
I think the helfrost round special ability pushes it a bit over the top, if it had JUST been the stats it would have been a stormbolter equivilant of Primarch's Wraith, good but.... but yeah this absolutely is Better then Primarch's wraith... and my Wolflord conveniantly HAS a stormbolter.
Even without the Helfrost part, Assault 4 makes it better than the S5, because now you can advance and fire. And I'll bet you anything they get a Strategem that'll let you advance and charge too!
ahh my bad I thought Primarchs' wraith was assault 2 it's rapid fire 2. but yeah the additional STR damage is pretty situational. that said, (this BTW is a very VERY minor issue here but it's worth noting) the Primarch's wraith is a boltgun, conmpared with frost fury being a stormbolter. so space wolves DO pay an additional two points for their relic. Meanwhile, barring the codex changing it, the burning blade is straight up BETTER then the Krakenbone sword, and the Krakenbone sword is a frost sword so it would cost more to boot.
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2018/08/18 01:00:39
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
NZ$83? For 3 Plague Marine models? The other three are NZ$30? The regular Plague Marine box is NZ$16 more and you get 4 more miniatures and tons more options.
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: I love that Storm Bolter relic because, ya know, what other Chapter would deserve probably the best range relic in the entire frickin game?
I think the helfrost round special ability pushes it a bit over the top, if it had JUST been the stats it would have been a stormbolter equivilant of Primarch's Wraith, good but.... but yeah this absolutely is Better then Primarch's wraith... and my Wolflord conveniantly HAS a stormbolter.
Even without the Helfrost part, Assault 4 makes it better than the S5, because now you can advance and fire. And I'll bet you anything they get a Strategem that'll let you advance and charge too!
ahh my bad I thought Primarchs' wraith was assault 2 it's rapid fire 2. but yeah the additional STR damage is pretty situational. that said, (this BTW is a very VERY minor issue here but it's worth noting) the Primarch's wraith is a boltgun, conmpared with frost fury being a stormbolter. so space wolves DO pay an additional two points for their relic. Meanwhile, barring the codex changing it, the burning blade is straight up BETTER then the Krakenbone sword, and the Krakenbone sword is a frost sword so it would cost more to boot.
Doesn't the Krakenbone reroll all wounds? I'd argue that to be better than the AP-5 S+3.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2018/08/18 01:06:09
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
NZ$83? For 3 Plague Marine models? The other three are NZ$30? The regular Plague Marine box is NZ$16 more and you get 4 more miniatures and tons more options.
WTF???
jesus and people thought AT was insanely expensive
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2018/08/18 01:10:03
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
Is that a reprint of the bizarre three collectors edition guys who came out shortly after the game was released? If I recall they were stupid expensive then, but the only way to get a plasma gun or something? (or a melta?). I think they came with a printed picture or something completely inane at the time.
2018/08/18 01:13:57
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
Elbows wrote: Is that a reprint of the bizarre three collectors edition guys who came out shortly after the game was released? If I recall they were stupid expensive then, but the only way to get a plasma gun or something? (or a melta?). I think they came with a printed picture or something completely inane at the time.
They came in a special little collector's box with art prints of the design process for Death Guard stuff. Poxwalkers, Mortarion, Plague Marines, etc. They were not "the only way to get" anything specific, they were just an expensive little "collector's" item that had Blanche artwork and was apparently popular enough to warrant bringing back.
It's still on the NZ webstore.
2018/08/18 01:19:11
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
NZ$83? For 3 Plague Marine models? The other three are NZ$30? The regular Plague Marine box is NZ$16 more and you get 4 more miniatures and tons more options.
WTF???
It's The Plague Brethren which were always NZ$83. The only difference now is the kit doesn't come with the extra content.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2018/08/18 01:22:31
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
That lightning power is awesome. It is going to win games. My last game it would have got three units. What works me is it is only 6 to cast yet doom bolt is somehow 9?
2018/08/18 01:34:14
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
NZ$83? For 3 Plague Marine models? The other three are NZ$30? The regular Plague Marine box is NZ$16 more and you get 4 more miniatures and tons more options.
WTF???
It's The Plague Brethren which were always NZ$83. The only difference now is the kit doesn't come with the extra content.
I'm sure those will sell not at all
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xeen wrote: That lightning power is awesome. It is going to win games. My last game it would have got three units. What works me is it is only 6 to cast yet doom bolt is somehow 9?
creep creep creep
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2018/08/18 02:03:40
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set
BrookM wrote: Which is the average voice they do for their audio dramas.
I wouldn't know. I've never listened to one and even my Black Library books read count has dropped down to one in the last 12 months... and even then I skimmed it skipping the bolter porn.
2018/08/18 20:03:37
Subject: Tooth & Claw - Space Wolves and Genestealer Cult battle boxed set