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Why would they not reveal ghaz but reveal all the speed freak stuff.

Isnt it possible or even likely that ghaz has no new model and similar rules to the index.

Well one reason could not to blow every release at once to ensure they have more stuff to hype later.

And new model or not hopefully they improve rules a bit.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Yea it says pre-order. Question is - does the £28 include a 10% or 15% discount?

What? It's an ebay scalper parting out Speed Freeks boxes (that they don't even have yet). There's no discount.

Without knowing the price of the buggies you have absolutely no idea if this is true or not. You're simply guessing.

As to Ghaz - if there is a new model he will be one of the last things to be revealed because he's like our primarch.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Yea it says pre-order. Question is - does the £28 include a 10% or 15% discount?

What? It's an ebay scalper parting out Speed Freeks boxes (that they don't even have yet). There's no discount.

Without knowing the price of the buggies you have absolutely no idea if this is true or not. You're simply guessing.

As to Ghaz - if there is a new model he will be one of the last things to be revealed because he's like our primarch.

Well why would ebay seller put discount when they are taking advantage of being only source for individual ones. Maybe they put discount once GW puts out individual box but until then they are going to charge as much as they can as alternative is buy whole speed freek box.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Without knowing the price of the buggies you have absolutely no idea if this is true or not. You're simply guessing.

I'm stating an educated opinion based on 20 years of experience with GW resellers. If you want to equate that with trying to guess a coin flip, that's on you, not on me.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Without knowing the price of the buggies you have absolutely no idea if this is true or not. You're simply guessing.

I'm stating an educated opinion based on 20 years of experience with GW resellers. If you want to equate that with trying to guess a coin flip, that's on you, not on me.

Yep and in my 20 odd years experience with GW resellers they offer a 10-15% discount as standard. Particularly for 'pre-orders'.

tneva82 wrote:
Well why would ebay seller put discount when they are taking advantage of being only source for individual ones. Maybe they put discount once GW puts out individual box but until then they are going to charge as much as they can as alternative is buy whole speed freek box.

You know that GW aren't going to put the buggies out separately at the same time as Speed Freeks do you? Or that buggies aren't going to go up for pre-order by themselves when that ebay link says they are? Source?

I read the ebay post as a distributor accidentally putting information on ebay that they shouldn't have, because they know when the buggies are going to be released.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

I read the ebay post as a distributor accidentally putting information on ebay that they shouldn't have, because they know when the buggies are going to be released.

Looking at their items for sale, they're clearly someone splitting boxes and selling on component parts.

I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

That and selling hot tub parts!

Herbington wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

I read the ebay post as a distributor accidentally putting information on ebay that they shouldn't have, because they know when the buggies are going to be released.

Looking at their items for sale, they're clearly someone splitting boxes and selling on component parts.

I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

That and selling hot tub parts!

Fair cop.

Looks about right.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
You know that GW aren't going to put the buggies out separately at the same time as Speed Freeks do you? Or that buggies aren't going to go up for pre-order by themselves when that ebay link says they are? Source?

I read the ebay post as a distributor accidentally putting information on ebay that they shouldn't have, because they know when the buggies are going to be released.

You know that they are going to diverge from release pattern they have followed for like decade from...how?
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You are basically making just random wild guesses out of thin air here.

tneva82 wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
You know that GW aren't going to put the buggies out separately at the same time as Speed Freeks do you? Or that buggies aren't going to go up for pre-order by themselves when that ebay link says they are? Source?

I read the ebay post as a distributor accidentally putting information on ebay that they shouldn't have, because they know when the buggies are going to be released.

You know that they are going to diverge from release pattern they have followed for like decade from...how?
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You are basically making just random wild guesses out of thin air here.

So you don't. Got it.

 Vasarto wrote:
I say, bring back the old Snikrot rules so Sniky can bring ghaz in on the other side of the table with his ability.

No rule in this edition is going to bring in Ghazghkull closer than 9". Just use the rumored stratagem or Da Jump to put him wherever.

The Snikrot+Thrakka combo was a glitch from a weird FAQ answer GW gave somewhere near the end of 5th. Prior to that FAQ (so almost all of 4th and 5th) it was not possible to infiltrate him.

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

And that's the kind of thing that can get GW staff terminated.

For almost every hyped item, there are people pre-selling it without them actually knowing the price. Some console games that don't even have a release date yet can be pre-ordered from certain stores for some fantasy prices, and their sellers hope to have guessed high enough to make some money.

I doubt that this is any different.

Like I said before it’s just like the Armigers.

They’ve looked at the box, which they know they’ll buy five or so of, though yeah probably £80 let’s say. Get their discount down to £60 when they buy from the right stockist.
Work out a guess at the highest you can sell each item for to surpass that £60 and turn it all into profit.

The first ones to do it guarantee more sales as no one else is competition..

There is no knowing it’s 10% cheaper, as buggies have no release yet.
And even a GW staffer would not know prices for stuff coming later on.
(They won’t get a non Speed Freeks release for I while I wouldn’t think, otherwise it muddys the sales of that box, and it’s too many to do with the Ork book all at once.


Anyway, who cares.
It’s not really an Ork rumour,

It wasn't until... bored lurkers rigged da forum with 2 kilos of fake rumours, just as the loyal ork fan was making his way through posts. BOOM! An exposion happened.
And blood and guts and AP-1 and Sixes was everywhere! And Bubba come crawlin' outa PM, his codex missin`. He is in pain!

He look up at me. He said, "Boss! I can't feel my new rules." I said, "Bubba, they ain't there." And I looked down, and them little bloody nubs was kickin' real fast, like this here. And I said, "Bubba, it's 30 days till the nearest codex. 'Less you can flip upside down and paint 90 boys, you ain't gonna make it."

All of a sudden, tau was all over da place! It was just me and my KMK. And I had no other alternative, but to blast my way out. "WAAAAAGH!! Die, bluberry ! Die ! You'll never take Major Bengork Win-a-lot Painboss alive !"Charge re-roll! Bam! "I saw what you did to my 'naut !" Bam! Bam!

That’s not a rumour; but if it was, it would probably be the best rumour in the world.

Want to do a blood axe force all in camo, think it will be cool.

NIGHTVAULT NEXT WEEK ... speedfreeks are bound to come the week after ^^

hmm, i dont think they will come out before the whitedwarf, but if speedfreeks does then the oct whitedwarf will most likely cover the other model releases not tied to the box game as well as the codex i would suspect.

i think that would probably be a great issue to pic up due to orctober being hyped up and that would be the best time to have as many ork articles to really boost the hype.

unfortunately i think we will have an codex release near the end of oct (though better late then never).

I'm assuming/ hoping that we get to pre order for stuff to come out the first Saturday in orktober.

As such a week today we should have something known.

I hope... I really, really, hope ...

rtb02 wrote:
I'm assuming/ hoping that we get to pre order for stuff to come out the first Saturday in orktober.

As such a week today we should have something known.

I hope... I really, really, hope ...

As do I. There is a tournament on the 13th I'd enter, but not as the NPC faction.

Have we considered the possibility that these buggies are the only new Ork minis and that there isn't a new Ghaz?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

And that's the kind of thing that can get GW staff terminated.

Only if they get caught.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Have we considered the possibility that these buggies are the only new Ork minis and that there isn't a new Ghaz?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

And that's the kind of thing that can get GW staff terminated.

Only if they get caught.

As much as that would suck, I could see that. After Orks and GSC, it's going to be primarily campaign style releases IMO from then on, so they'll probably revisit Armageddon or Octarius and use that as a way to introduce a "Triumvirate of the WAAAAGH!" with Ghazzy, Orkimedes and maybe a new model for Grotsnik/Old Zogwort/new character.

 Grimskul wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Have we considered the possibility that these buggies are the only new Ork minis and that there isn't a new Ghaz?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

And that's the kind of thing that can get GW staff terminated.

Only if they get caught.

As much as that would suck, I could see that. After Orks and GSC, it's going to be primarily campaign style releases IMO from then on, so they'll probably revisit Armageddon or Octarius and use that as a way to introduce a "Triumvirate of the WAAAAGH!" with Ghazzy, Orkimedes and maybe a new model for Grotsnik/Old Zogwort/new character.

Nazdreg would be number three there surely?

Tastyfish wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Have we considered the possibility that these buggies are the only new Ork minis and that there isn't a new Ghaz?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

And that's the kind of thing that can get GW staff terminated.

Only if they get caught.

As much as that would suck, I could see that. After Orks and GSC, it's going to be primarily campaign style releases IMO from then on, so they'll probably revisit Armageddon or Octarius and use that as a way to introduce a "Triumvirate of the WAAAAGH!" with Ghazzy, Orkimedes and maybe a new model for Grotsnik/Old Zogwort/new character.

Nazdreg would be number three there surely?

I'd love for him to be the third one. But given that Ghazzy is already in Mega-Armour I'm not sure they would have that much overlap between the two characters, (though personally I'd be ecstatic if he had rules and a model again) since all the previous triumvirates have had very distinct models from one another.

 Grimskul wrote:

Tastyfish wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Have we considered the possibility that these buggies are the only new Ork minis and that there isn't a new Ghaz?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

And that's the kind of thing that can get GW staff terminated.

Only if they get caught.

As much as that would suck, I could see that. After Orks and GSC, it's going to be primarily campaign style releases IMO from then on, so they'll probably revisit Armageddon or Octarius and use that as a way to introduce a "Triumvirate of the WAAAAGH!" with Ghazzy, Orkimedes and maybe a new model for Grotsnik/Old Zogwort/new character.

Nazdreg would be number three there surely?

I'd love for him to be the third one. But given that Ghazzy is already in Mega-Armour I'm not sure they would have that much overlap between the two characters, (though personally I'd be ecstatic if he had rules and a model again) since all the previous triumvirates have had very distinct models from one another.

If only gw would do like karl franz, and make a mega armored warboss kit with the parts to upgrade it into unique characters, like ghaz or nazdredg.

If we get a triumvirate, it will almost definitely be a Warboss, a Mek and a Weird Boy.

Thrakka, Orkimedes and Grotznik is also a possibility.

Or my point, again, before y'all drifted off into the world of wishlisting, is that maybe there's simply nothing.

Buggies. A boxed game to sell them. A standard smattering of Codex/cards/dice/hyper-inflated priced collector's edition... and then nothing.

No Ghaz, no plastic Kommandos or Tankbustaz, and many more moons in the wilderness.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or my point, again, before y'all drifted off into the world of wishlisting, is that maybe there's simply nothing.

Buggies. A boxed game to sell them. A standard smattering of Codex/cards/dice/hyper-inflated priced collector's edition... and then nothing.

No Ghaz, no plastic Kommandos or Tankbustaz, and many more moons in the wilderness.

Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine? No one expected the buggies until they dropped. There's no point being overly pessimistic. We could have no new models and I'd still be more than satisfied. If we get nothing else we've done better than most for new models.