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 Grimskul wrote:
As much as that would suck, I could see that. After Orks and GSC, it's going to be primarily campaign style releases IMO from then on, so they'll probably revisit Armageddon or Octarius and use that as a way to introduce a "Triumvirate of the WAAAAGH!" with Ghazzy, Orkimedes and maybe a new model for Grotsnik/Old Zogwort/new character.

Certainly those kind of releases will be but expect also round 2 of codexes. Those are "print me money" button and GW has shown ZERO indication they would be dropping like 20 year tradition. If anything AOS has shown the tradition of redoing codexes is fine and dandy.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Have we considered the possibility that these buggies are the only new Ork minis and that there isn't a new Ghaz?

Pretty sure it's been mentioned there's non-speed freak releases. Though not quaranteed new ghaz model. But wasn't mek's workshop style of terrain piece mentioned to be in codex? If yes then that's 100% quaranteed model.q

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
No one expected the buggies until they dropped.

Pretty sure most people expected the buggies. They were the oldest and worst part of the range and widely predicted to get replaced.

I believe that we will be getting more models, simply because the playtest leaker called out which units got removed for having no models: the warboss, big mek and painboy on bikes. That tells us that everything else which doesn't have a model will get one. At a minimum, that is a mega-armour warboss. Likely to also be a deffkopta (technically available, but obviously problematic), a regular warboss (possibly just Grukk in new packaging or they consider the option of building the one on the trike to be enough), maybe a wartrakk (could see them being thrown in with the megatrack scrapjet or the playtester assumed one of the buggies was actually the wartrakk and they have actually been removed). Possibly even big guns and special characters.

I always thought that plastic kommandos / tankbustas seemed unlikely. In order to really sell, you would want them to be a dual-build kit with another unit. With no new infantry units in the leak, I'd say we aren't getting any new infantry kits except characters.

I think there is also a rumour saying that there will be 'three non-speed-freak releases for orks' although I don't think that is from a reliable source and anyway, it isn't clear if they mean 'three releases that don't have the speed-freak theme' or 'three releases that aren't in the speed-freak game'.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or my point, again, before y'all drifted off into the world of wishlisting, is that maybe there's simply nothing.

Buggies. A boxed game to sell them. A standard smattering of Codex/cards/dice/hyper-inflated priced collector's edition... and then nothing.

No Ghaz, no plastic Kommandos or Tankbustaz, and many more moons in the wilderness.

But we know by a fact that at least 3 different kind of buggies (How many actual boxes they are and how many multi-kits, we'll see) and a Warboss on Trike are coming. As Englishman said, thats actually pretty good and gives Ork players what has been missing to do a proper Kult of Speed army.
More would be a nice surprise of course.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
No one expected the buggies until they dropped.

Pretty sure most people expected the buggies. They were the oldest and worst part of the range and widely predicted to get replaced..

Also rumour engine picture for wheel was out for like a year which very strongly looked like ork wheel so...

Buggies were basically open secret. Only exact release date and look was unclear

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Or my point, again, before y'all drifted off into the world of wishlisting, is that maybe there's simply nothing.

Buggies. A boxed game to sell them. A standard smattering of Codex/cards/dice/hyper-inflated priced collector's edition... and then nothing.

No Ghaz, no plastic Kommandos or Tankbustaz, and many more moons in the wilderness.

The rumors clearly stated that there will be three more kits in addition to the buggies.

Mek thing
Trike boss

One other ...

There were supposed be five buggies, including the trike boss and three more.

 Jidmah wrote:
The rumors clearly stated that there will be three more kits in addition to the buggies.

Can you tell me where those rumours can be found? I've forgotten the exact wording and whether they had provided other information along with the claim to establish their credibility.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

Herbington wrote:
I think it's someone trying their luck with the pre-order thing.

As I understand it, a lot of ebay sellers for that kind of stuff are GW staff taking advantage of their staff discount, so it's possible that whoever it is actually knows a little bit more than us about the price and release schedule.

GW actively look for that, and re-casters. They have a few people that makes purchases from both in order to check and catch people out. 100%. And it's immediate dismissal.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
The rumors clearly stated that there will be three more kits in addition to the buggies.

Can you tell me where those rumours can be found? I've forgotten the exact wording and whether they had provided other information along with the claim to establish their credibility.

Somewhere in this thread for sure, it was the same guy who gave the names of all the buggies which were confirmed by the trike and the blue buggy. The one buggy missing is the squig something model.

Well here's to at least getting a plastic Weirdboy.

Is this a stand-alone game like Space Hulk or is it for Orks in 40k? And what about new version for GorkaMorka?

Baxx wrote:
Is this a stand-alone game like Space Hulk or is it for Orks in 40k? And what about new version for GorkaMorka?

There is no new Gorkamorka. This is a stand-alone boxed game that also happens to be a gateway drug to a Speed Freeks army for 40K.

Ok thanks.

As long as it is orks driving and shooting, it will be very close to GorkaMorka in spirit? Probably with game mechanics similar to latest 40k rules and having no campaign component?

I'm not sure I'll be interested if it's just a mini stand-alone game without campaign, but those models would be ultimate in GorkaMorka!

 Jidmah wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
The rumors clearly stated that there will be three more kits in addition to the buggies.

Can you tell me where those rumours can be found? I've forgotten the exact wording and whether they had provided other information along with the claim to establish their credibility.

Somewhere in this thread for sure, it was the same guy who gave the names of all the buggies which were confirmed by the trike and the blue buggy. The one buggy missing is the squig something model.

KiriothTV. He names the four known models (kustom boosta-blasta, shokkjump dragsta, boomdakka snazzwagon and deffkilla wartrike) plus two others (megatrack scrapjet and ruckatruck squig buggy). Those all seem to be vaguely in the vein of 'more buggies', so it's possible based on that rumour that we're getting nothing but buggies (although I think it's likely that we will get characters and deffkoptas too, as I said above).

tneva82 wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
As much as that would suck, I could see that. After Orks and GSC, it's going to be primarily campaign style releases IMO from then on, so they'll probably revisit Armageddon or Octarius and use that as a way to introduce a "Triumvirate of the WAAAAGH!" with Ghazzy, Orkimedes and maybe a new model for Grotsnik/Old Zogwort/new character.

Certainly those kind of releases will be but expect also round 2 of codexes. Those are "print me money" button and GW has shown ZERO indication they would be dropping like 20 year tradition. If anything AOS has shown the tradition of redoing codexes is fine and dandy.

Incorrect.

We've had two books getting reprints at this juncture:
A) Stormcast Eternals. It's had 3 different iterations now, with the first iteration being set up as the different Chambers having their own books. That was pulled from the concepts and so now we have a gigantic book. Personally, I preferred individual books but I like themes so...

B) Khorne Bloodbound. First version was pretty sparse, focused on just the Bloodbound stuff. Then it got set up the way the following Chaos books would be: Mortal stuff and Daemons all in the same book.

Those are the only books that have been reprinted multiple times.

How friendly of you to prove what i just said. Aos has reprints of battletomes. New versions within years. Gw of old check. Reprints before all have got first also business as usual.

So as i said and you proved gw hasn't shown any indication of going away codex redoes

Was there a rumor that Orks were getting a sort of accessory sprue? Like ammo runts, squigs, cybork parts, etc.. I can't remember if that was an actual rumor or if it was someone wishlisting things.

I'm pretty sure that this was wish listing.

Parts sprue would be within the bounds of possibility - but probability? Maybe not so much.

Will one of these other three kits not be the mek terrain we have heard about?

Andykp wrote:
Will one of these other three kits not be the mek terrain we have heard about?

No. Having re-checked the rumour source, the 'three other kits' mean three new units apart from the three which were known about at the time the video was made. One of those (the deffkilla wartrike) has now been revealed. The other two are the rukkatruck squig-buggy and the megatrack scrapjet. The mek shop is almost certainly also going to be a new kit, but it isn't one of the three.

Any talk of 'three new kits' apart from that seems to be a case of wishful thinking, speculation and 'Chinese whispers'. There is no credible information available about the number of new kits coming out (except for the ones GW has shown us, obviously). It could be that the two other units are alternative builds of ones we have already seen. There could be a whole bunch of new kits for existing units.

Really not keen on the new names. Worse than sloppity bilepiper.

Andykp wrote:
Really not keen on the new names. Worse than sloppity bilepiper.

I'll be honest, names don't matter. If the model was terrible and had the best name ever, I wouldn't buy it.

New buggies and trike look awesome. As such, I'll be buying everything.

I'm not really a fan of GW's new names either, but it's not a big deal. It seems like they've been coming up with longer and longer names for things, maybe for IP reasons? This isn't just for the orks, it seems to be going on for all factions.

It's pretty easy to shorten them though. Wartrike, Snazzwagon, Boosta-Blasta and Dragsta are pretty decent names, IMO, and I doubt anyone will throw a fit if we don't say the whole thing.

Ork strategems should be named.

Dakka!
Dakka, Dakka!!
Big Red Button.
Sneaky Gitz.

My searchfu is weak at the moment, does the Dakka, Dakka, Dakka rule apply to the dreads and vehicles as well ?

It is for infantry and bikers.

isn't it exciting that in less than 5 days, we get ork teaser ^^

 adamsouza wrote:
Ork strategems should be named.
My searchfu is weak at the moment, does the Dakka, Dakka, Dakka rule apply to the dreads and vehicles as well ?

The rule specifically mentions bubble-chukkas so presumably it applies to them, but otherwhise the scope of the rule isn't clear to me either.

My searchfu is weak at the moment, does the Dakka, Dakka, Dakka rule apply to the dreads and vehicles as well ?

It's an army wide rule. It applies to everything, and that was how it was played at Nova. It's great fun. I can see how it might get horrifically annoying if you were re-rolling something and applying dakka dakka dakka. But for the heavy hitting weapons like KMK's, and rokkits, it was pretty fun to play with.

Text from WHC

Previously seen as a Stratagem in Chapter Approved 2017, we’ve added this as a special rule on EVERY Orks unit that works ALL the time. You’ll never, ever hit on worse than a 6 – and you’ll get an extra shooting attack for free when you do so. If you believe in yourself, you can hit anything

Source:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/30/breaking-previews-and-reveals-from-novagw-homepage-post-1/