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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:40:23
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Andykp wrote:He made them kneel,but was that because they had special weakness encoded into them. Could he have made a whole planet kneel or a demon kneel? I see no evidence of primarchs having free will. They are either super keen to impress daddy or beat him and the traitor ones were all puppets of the dark gods who are infinitely more powerful than the emperor or any primarch.
Special Weakneses? Says who? It was his own Godlike power.
And what about this quote? You still think its special weakness when his voice sent them flying?
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
‘You are a god. Say the words and end the lie.’
The Emperor shook his head, not in defeat, but calm defiance.
‘You are blind, my son. You cling to ancient perceptions, and endanger us all with them. Let this end, Lorgar. Let this end with you heeding my words.’
The psychic wind died with a peal of thunder. Lorgar stood where he was, trembling for reasons his warriors couldn’t discern. Blood ran from one ear, running in a slow trail down his tattooed neck.
I am listening, father,’ he said.
And when the Primarchs joined Chaos, they did so willingly. Magnus went against the Emperor's wishes about messing with the warp when the Emperor told him not to do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:41:17
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Andykp wrote:He made them kneel,but was that because they had special weakness encoded into them. Could he have made a whole planet kneel or a demon kneel?
Definitely not. If he had that kind of power, why did he send his armies to kill everyone with bullets?
There's simply no evidence that isn't tainted by the witness of the Emperor's supposed powers.
He was pretty good at invisibility and appearance alteration. He occasionally (like twice ever) used some kind of soul-destroying ability against a single target at each occurance. Heck, his own battlefield lightning throwing abilities were shown to be no better than Space Marine Librarians/Rune Priests/whatever heretical name they gave themselves.
We don't see him even use telepathy with someone more than a few miles away usually. Magnus came to him, not the other way around.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:43:06
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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DarknessEternal wrote:Andykp wrote:He made them kneel,but was that because they had special weakness encoded into them. Could he have made a whole planet kneel or a demon kneel?
Definitely not. If he had that kind of power, why did he send his armies to kill everyone with bullets?
He definitely can. He made the Word Bearers kneel. And Lorgar had to kneel after. And he did mind control billions in the Vengeful Spirit book. And in the Vengeful Spirit book, he erased the memories of the Primarchs.
Alpha psykers can mind control planets. The Cacodominus mind controlled 1,300 systems.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
‘You are a god. Say the words and end the lie.’
The Emperor shook his head, not in defeat, but calm defiance.
‘You are blind, my son. You cling to ancient perceptions, and endanger us all with them. Let this end, Lorgar. Let this end with you heeding my words.’
The psychic wind died with a peal of thunder. Lorgar stood where he was, trembling for reasons his warriors couldn’t discern. Blood ran from one ear, running in a slow trail down his tattooed neck.
I am listening, father,’ he said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:46:14
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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The primarchs were all manipulated into joining chaos as is everybody who does. The greatest trick those gods perform is to make you think you have free will when it’s all manipulation. Mortarion pleaded to nurgle when his fleet was rotting and dying. His free will? Lorgar was manipulated, they all were. Even Magnus was tricked in a very tzeentch way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:46:21
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Andykp wrote:He made them kneel,but was that because they had special weakness encoded into them. Could he have made a whole planet kneel or a demon kneel? I see no evidence of primarchs having free will. They are either super keen to impress daddy or beat him and the traitor ones were all puppets of the dark gods who are infinitely more powerful than the emperor or any primarch.
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Also you can’t trust a thing in those heresey books.
How do you explain Magnus going against the Emperor's wishes in not messing with the warp. The Emperor wanted him to stop. And the Emperor mind controlled billions in the Vengeful Spirit book.
No offense, but are you guys stupid, being coy or just trolling? There is no debate. The Emperor forced them to kneel with his own power.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:47:09
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Onething123456 wrote:And he did mind control billions in the Vengeful Spirit book. And in the Vengeful Spirit book, he erased the memories of the Primarchs.
That wasn't psychic might, that was bureaucratic. He ordered everyone to stop mentioning them. He never did squat about altering people's memories.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:47:51
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Andykp wrote:The primarchs were all manipulated into joining chaos as is everybody who does. The greatest trick those gods perform is to make you think you have free will when it’s all manipulation. Mortarion pleaded to nurgle when his fleet was rotting and dying. His free will? Lorgar was manipulated, they all were. Even Magnus was tricked in a very tzeentch way.
And Magnus still disobeyed the Emperor when messing with the warp in A Thousand Sons. No slave coding.
Please read this part below.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
The Emperor's voice sent them flying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:48:42
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Onething123456 wrote:
How do you explain Magnus going against the Emperor's wishes in not messing with the warp.
Overconfidence.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:49:15
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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DarknessEternal wrote:Onething123456 wrote:And he did mind control billions in the Vengeful Spirit book. And in the Vengeful Spirit book, he erased the memories of the Primarchs.
That wasn't psychic might, that was bureaucratic. He ordered everyone to stop mentioning them. He never did squat about altering people's memories.
Can you prove that? It does say he erased the memories of the Primarchs about when he went into the Moloch gate. And a female Perpetual named Alivia witnessed him go into the Moloch gate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:51:00
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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You will never convince me to that the primarchs had freewill. Any of them but least of all the traitor ones. Magnus was duped into thinking him using the warp would save the empire from heresy. It didn’t. It did exactly what tzeentch wanted it to do. I’m not stupid I’m just open to ideas that the emperor isn’t a hero. I base this on 30years of playing this game a loving the back ground. The HH books aren’t gospel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:51:02
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Yes, I can prove it because Dorn clearly remembers them when he suggests to Malcador that they utilize the redacted Legions.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:51:21
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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bs. You know I am right. He could have done that when he sent Russ to bring Magnus. I have underlined over and over the quotes I showed.
Please read the quote below. His voice sent them flying.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
Automatically Appended Next Post: DarknessEternal wrote:Yes, I can prove it because Dorn clearly remembers them when he suggests to Malcador that they utilize the redacted Legions.
The Emperor erased from the Primarchs minds about when he went into the Moloch gate. And a female Perpetual named Alivia witnessed him go into there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:53:02
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Onething123456 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:Onething123456 wrote:And he did mind control billions in the Vengeful Spirit book. And in the Vengeful Spirit book, he erased the memories of the Primarchs.
That wasn't psychic might, that was bureaucratic. He ordered everyone to stop mentioning them. He never did squat about altering people's memories.
Can you prove that? It does say he erased the memories of the Primarchs about when he went into the Moloch gate. And a female Perpetual named Alivia witnessed him go into the Moloch gate.
Don’t bring her up again. You’re not the first and it was hard work last time. It might say he did but can you trust that? And Horus knew he had been there and why did he try to destroy it if they couldn’t remember it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:53:43
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Fixture of Dakka
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He sent Russ to bring Magnus because he was too busy to care about doing it himself at the time.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:54:16
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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DarknessEternal wrote:He sent Russ to bring Magnus because he was too busy to care about doing it himself at the time.
Just as tzeentch intended all along.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:55:08
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Andykp wrote:Onething123456 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:Onething123456 wrote:And he did mind control billions in the Vengeful Spirit book. And in the Vengeful Spirit book, he erased the memories of the Primarchs.
That wasn't psychic might, that was bureaucratic. He ordered everyone to stop mentioning them. He never did squat about altering people's memories.
Can you prove that? It does say he erased the memories of the Primarchs about when he went into the Moloch gate. And a female Perpetual named Alivia witnessed him go into the Moloch gate.
Don’t bring her up again. You’re not the first and it was hard work last time. It might say he did but can you trust that? And Horus knew he had been there and why did he try to destroy it if they couldn’t remember it?
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Yes, you can.
I have just fething proven the Emperor forced the Word Bearers to kneel with his own power.
And Lorgar sought out new gods after the Emperor disgraced him.
PLEASE READ the below quote.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:55:30
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Onething123456 wrote:
The Emperor erased from the Primarchs minds about when he went into the Moloch gate.
Using "powers" against the Primarchs who were his genetic slaves isn't exactly compelling evidence when those same "powers" did absolutely nothing to the normal humans who experienced the same thing.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:57:30
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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And on what basis can you trust anything in HH books when the authors themselves state that you cannot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:58:00
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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DarknessEternal wrote:He sent Russ to bring Magnus because he was too busy to care about doing it himself at the time.
There is nothing suggesting the Primarchs had slave coding. Zip. I just schooled you in underlining the parts where it clearly shows the Emperor forced them to kneel with his power.
+Kneel+ it whispered with the power of a hammer to the forehead. There was no resisting. Muscles acted instantly, no matter that many hearts fought not to obey. Argel Tal was one of them. This was not fealty, nor worship, nor service. This was slavery, and his instincts rebelled at the enforced devotion even as he obeyed it.
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The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
Cased closed. I am right. There is nothing of "slave coding" in the quote.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:59:00
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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And why is that quote the only one that matters. As eternal said show us where he does this to normal people.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:59:34
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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DarknessEternal wrote:Onething123456 wrote:
The Emperor erased from the Primarchs minds about when he went into the Moloch gate.
Using "powers" against the Primarchs who were his genetic slaves isn't exactly compelling evidence when those same "powers" did absolutely nothing to the normal humans who experienced the same thing.
You are just trolling at this point. And what you said does not make sense since that did not happen.
And fun fact, Darkness Eteernal. the Emperor's voice sent the Word Bearers flying.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.
‘You are a god. Say the words and end the lie.’
The Emperor shook his head, not in defeat, but calm defiance.
‘You are blind, my son. You cling to ancient perceptions, and endanger us all with them. Let this end, Lorgar. Let this end with you heeding my words.’
The psychic wind died with a peal of thunder. Lorgar stood where he was, trembling for reasons his warriors couldn’t discern. Blood ran from one ear, running in a slow trail down his tattooed neck.
I am listening, father,’ he said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 21:59:38
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Andykp wrote:And on what basis can you trust anything in HH books when the authors themselves state that you cannot.
That's a little too solipsistic.
The Horus Heresy series is mistitled, because it's not a series. There is no continuity across the whole of it, which is what the authors have stated numerous time. Each story is it's own pocket story of what might have happened. Automatically Appended Next Post: Onething123456 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:Onething123456 wrote:
The Emperor erased from the Primarchs minds about when he went into the Moloch gate.
Using "powers" against the Primarchs who were his genetic slaves isn't exactly compelling evidence when those same "powers" did absolutely nothing to the normal humans who experienced the same thing.
You are just trolling at this point. And what you said does not make sense since that did not happen.
Uh, it happened in the very book you are citing as a source. There were regular people there with the Emperor when he went through that gate. They remember him doing it.
And your madness-mantra is pointless.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:02:51
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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The key word here is “might”. I’m not saying that eternal theory is correct but I like it and it’s entirely possible. Nothing here disproves it reliably. I also like the theory that malcador was the real power and the emperor was just a front man or that the emperor was an old one in disguise. I’m open to all these ideas and none of them are true or false.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:04:42
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Andykp wrote:And why is that quote the only one that matters. As eternal said show us where he does this to normal people.
No problem. The Emperor can mind control people. That is a psyker power. The Cacodominus did it with 1,300 systems, and his death scream burned the minds of a billion Astropaths and distorted the signal of the Astronomican. Alpha psykers have mind controlled planets.
And I just did. He mind controlled a planet population in the Vengeful Spirit book.
‘As you wish,’ said Revelation. ‘No more games.’
A golden light built behind Uriah and he saw his shadow thrown out onto the graven surface of the altar. The pearlescent hands of the clock shimmered in the reflected light and the ebony face gleamed.
Where once the church had been gloomy and filled with shadows, it was now a place of light.
Uriah pulled himself to his feet and turned to see a wondrous figure standing before him, towering and magnificent, clad in golden armour fashioned with love and the greatest skill, every plate embossed with thunderbolts and eagles.
Gone was Revelation, and in his place was a towering warrior of exquisite splendour, an exemplar of all that was regal and inspirational in humanity. The armour bulked his form out beyond measure and Uriah felt tears spilling from his eyes as he realised he had seen this breathtakingly, achingly perfect face once before.
On the killing fields of Gaduare.
‘You…’ breathed Uriah, stumbling back and collapsing onto his haunches. Pain shot through his hip and pelvis, but he barely felt it.
‘Now do you understand the futility of what you do here?’ said the golden giant.
Long dark hair spilled around the warrior’s face, a face that Uriah could only see through the hazy lens of memory. He could see the unremarkable features of Revelation subsumed into the warrior’s countenance, itself so worthy of devotion that it took all Uriah’s self-control not to drop to his knees and offer what remained of his life to its glorification.
‘You…’ repeated Uriah, the pain in his bones no match for the pain in his heart. ‘You are the… the… Emperor…’
‘I am, and it is time to go, Uriah,’ said the Emperor.
Pg.527 The Last Church - Tales of Heresy
Not mind controlling, but Uriah Olathaire had to use all his self control when the Emperor showed his glamour form.
And what the Emperor did with the Word Bearers is his own power. There is absolutely nothing suggesting slave coding in the Horus Heresy books.
And the Emperor is so arrogant that he didn't bother? Then he would be so arrogant that he would not bother with slave coding, as he thinks he is so good.
Automatically Appended Next Post: DarknessEternal wrote:Andykp wrote:And on what basis can you trust anything in HH books when the authors themselves state that you cannot.
That's a little too solipsistic.
The Horus Heresy series is mistitled, because it's not a series. There is no continuity across the whole of it, which is what the authors have stated numerous time. Each story is it's own pocket story of what might have happened.
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Onething123456 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:Onething123456 wrote:
The Emperor erased from the Primarchs minds about when he went into the Moloch gate.
Using "powers" against the Primarchs who were his genetic slaves isn't exactly compelling evidence when those same "powers" did absolutely nothing to the normal humans who experienced the same thing.
You are just trolling at this point. And what you said does not make sense since that did not happen.
Uh, it happened in the very book you are citing as a source. There were regular people there with the Emperor when he went through that gate. They remember him doing it.
And your madness-mantra is pointless.
Regular people? He did not erase it from their minds because he did not want to. He erased it from the minds of the Primarchs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:10:00
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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I didn't bend this spoon with my mind because I didn't want to, but you have to just trust that I have vast psychic powers. - Uri Geller.
The Emperor was nothing if not fiction's greatest con-man.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:11:35
Subject: Re:The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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U just don’t want to believe anything negative about the emperor. That quote about Uriah wetting his pants as the emperor did his glamour pose is nothing to do with this.
Just because something isn’t mentioned doesn’t mean it isn’t happening and likewise just because you read it, it doesn’t make it true. It’s a version of events. Nothing more. The fact these other people can do that doesn’t prove the emperor can at all. I know people who can dead lift a car. I can’t!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:15:10
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Dakka Veteran
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DarknessEternal wrote:I didn't bend this spoon with my mind because I didn't want to, but you have to just trust that I have vast psychic powers. - Uri Geller.
The Emperor was nothing if not fiction's greatest con-man.
What does that have to do with what I'm talking about? The Emperor did not want to erase the memories of those humans.
And he CAN mind control because that is a psyker power. The Cacodominus mind controlled 1,300 systems with its power, and its death scream burned out the minds of a billion Astropaths. and distorted the signal of the Astronomican. And he forced the Word Bearers to kneel with his power. I have proved that with the parts of my quotes I underlined.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.[/u]
Lorgar was defiant at the Emperor' psychic power when the Word Bearers fell to his power.
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Andykp wrote:U just don’t want to believe anything negative about the emperor. That quote about Uriah wetting his pants as the emperor did his glamour pose is nothing to do with this.
Just because something isn’t mentioned doesn’t mean it isn’t happening and likewise just because you read it, it doesn’t make it true. It’s a version of events. Nothing more. The fact these other people can do that doesn’t prove the emperor can at all. I know people who can dead lift a car. I can’t!
But the burden of proof in on you to prove that the Primarchs and Legions had slave coding when they did not. There is nothing suggesting it. The burden in on you.
And fun fact: I just talked with Aaron Dembski-Bowden on reddit, and he said there is no slave coding and that the Primarchs have their own free will, and that the Emperor forced the Word Bearers to keel with his power.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:18:26
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Congratulations, you have won the internet with your keen debate skills of just repeating yourself ad nauseam.
You are surely correct in all of your thoughts and actions, just like the Emperor you admire so much.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:19:11
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Onething123456 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:I didn't bend this spoon with my mind because I didn't want to, but you have to just trust that I have vast psychic powers. - Uri Geller.
The Emperor was nothing if not fiction's greatest con-man.
What does that have to do with what I'm talking about? The Emperor did not want to erase the memories of those humans.
And he CAN mind control because that is a psyker power. The Cacodominus mind controlled 1,300 systems with its power, and its death scream burned out the minds of a billion Astropaths. and distorted the signal of the Astronomican. And he forced the Word Bearers to kneel with his power. I have proved that with the parts of my quotes I underlined.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.[/u]
Lorgar was defiant at the Emperor' psychic power when the Word Bearers fell to his power.
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Andykp wrote:U just don’t want to believe anything negative about the emperor. That quote about Uriah wetting his pants as the emperor did his glamour pose is nothing to do with this.
Just because something isn’t mentioned doesn’t mean it isn’t happening and likewise just because you read it, it doesn’t make it true. It’s a version of events. Nothing more. The fact these other people can do that doesn’t prove the emperor can at all. I know people who can dead lift a car. I can’t!
But the burden of proof in on you to prove that the Primarchs and Legions had slave coding when they did not. There is nothing suggesting it. The burden in on you.
And fun fact: I just talked with Aaron Dembski-Bowden on reddit, and he said there is no slave coding and that the Primarchs have their own free will, and that the Emperor forced the Word Bearers to keel with his power.
Wow. Just wow. Automatically Appended Next Post: DarknessEternal wrote:Congratulations, you have won the internet with your keen debate skills of just repeating yourself ad nauseam.
You are surely correct in all of your thoughts and actions, just like the Emperor you admire so much.
To be fair he could be twelve or something, but still. Wow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/08/23 22:21:48
Subject: The Emperor forcing the Word Bearers to kneel.
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Dakka Veteran
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DarknessEternal wrote:Congratulations, you have won the internet with your keen debate skills of just repeating yourself ad nauseam.
You are surely correct in all of your thoughts and actions, just like the Emperor you admire so much.
No. I don't think much of the Emperor. I am a Sanguinius and Perpetual Oll Persson fan.
And Congratulations. You have ignored the various quotes I have shown and proven, and just proven you are not interested in proving I am wrong, or admitting you are wrong, but trolling.
Did you read the below quote? I have posted before. The Emperor's voice sent them flying.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father. Automatically Appended Next Post: Andykp wrote:Onething123456 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:I didn't bend this spoon with my mind because I didn't want to, but you have to just trust that I have vast psychic powers. - Uri Geller.
The Emperor was nothing if not fiction's greatest con-man.
What does that have to do with what I'm talking about? The Emperor did not want to erase the memories of those humans.
And he CAN mind control because that is a psyker power. The Cacodominus mind controlled 1,300 systems with its power, and its death scream burned out the minds of a billion Astropaths. and distorted the signal of the Astronomican. And he forced the Word Bearers to kneel with his power. I have proved that with the parts of my quotes I underlined.
+LORGAR+
The voice came with a wall of pressure now, dense and all too tactile. It pounded into Argel Tal like a miasma of engine wash, heating his armour and throwing him to the ground. Around him, he could see his brothers sent sprawling, their armour skidding across the dust. Defiant in the cyclone of unseen energy, scrolls of scripture ripping from his armour, Lorgar raised his hand to point at his father.[/u]
Lorgar was defiant at the Emperor' psychic power when the Word Bearers fell to his power.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Andykp wrote:U just don’t want to believe anything negative about the emperor. That quote about Uriah wetting his pants as the emperor did his glamour pose is nothing to do with this.
Just because something isn’t mentioned doesn’t mean it isn’t happening and likewise just because you read it, it doesn’t make it true. It’s a version of events. Nothing more. The fact these other people can do that doesn’t prove the emperor can at all. I know people who can dead lift a car. I can’t!
But the burden of proof in on you to prove that the Primarchs and Legions had slave coding when they did not. There is nothing suggesting it. The burden in on you.
And fun fact: I just talked with Aaron Dembski-Bowden on reddit, and he said there is no slave coding and that the Primarchs have their own free will, and that the Emperor forced the Word Bearers to keel with his power.
Wow. Just wow.
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DarknessEternal wrote:Congratulations, you have won the internet with your keen debate skills of just repeating yourself ad nauseam.
You are surely correct in all of your thoughts and actions, just like the Emperor you admire so much.
To be fair he could be twelve or something, but still. Wow.
I am actually 20. And what do you mean "wow"? I did not do anything wrong or abnormal. I was just saying you need to prove the Primarchs have slave coding, and that I talked with ADB. You said they have slave coding.
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