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Dr. Mills wrote: Hell I got recommended not to start a Black Templars army at an old FLGS just because one player was a super fan of them and would basically flip his gak over other people playing them.....despite never playing them himself.
Can attest. The girlfriend of one of our players has a necrons army and despite barely ever playing, got super defensive when any one of us thought about trying the army out.
When people usually see how much I convert my models, this tune quickly changes.
But even the aforementioned Guard player I was speaking about will try to talk everyone out of playing Guard, and gets really butthurt when he sees people using third-party guard units.
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Dr. Mills wrote: Hell I got recommended not to start a Black Templars army at an old FLGS just because one player was a super fan of them and would basically flip his gak over other people playing them.....despite never playing them himself.
Can attest. The girlfriend of one of our players has a necrons army and despite barely ever playing, got super defensive when any one of us thought about trying the army out.
When people usually see how much I convert my models, this tune quickly changes.
But even the aforementioned Guard player I was speaking about will try to talk everyone out of playing Guard, and gets really butthurt when he sees people using third-party guard units.
That makes me roll my eyes so hard. Let people play what they want and enjoy what they want. Some people are so silly I can't understand it.
Tibs Ironblood wrote: That makes me roll my eyes so hard. Let people play what they want and enjoy what they want. Some people are so silly I can't understand it.
You must be new to the hobby, and are an anomaly like me.
If the internet were to be believed, 40k is:
40% whining about other peoples' armies
40% whining about your own army
10% whining about armies that don't even exist
5% modeling
4% painting
1% playing
Tibs Ironblood wrote: That makes me roll my eyes so hard. Let people play what they want and enjoy what they want. Some people are so silly I can't understand it.
You must be new to the hobby, and are an anomaly like me.
If the internet were to be believed, 40k is:
40% whining about other peoples' armies
40% whining about your own army
10% whining about armies that don't even exist
5% modeling
4% painting
1% playing
I've had players get mad at me based off how I build my marines.
Back in 7th, I spent over a two hour game getting constantly made fun of by my opponent, because I brought a devastator squad with 3 Plasma Cannons and a Missile Launcher.
Furthermore he couldn't handle the fact that I made all of my Marine Sargent's the same way, with a Chainsword and a plasma pistol.
This guy was so offended by my choices that he went on about it FOR MONTHS. I'm a pretty patient and nice person, it takes a massive amount of harassment to get anything out of me, otherwise I probably would have smashed his head into the nearest wall. What's even worse, is that I still take a lot of flakk for this kind of stuff. It amazes me how angry people will get when viewing other peoples' choices in a toy game. There is actually a guy at another store who HATES the fact that I run White Scars primaris marines because according to him "You only run Ravenguard, no other tactics exist."
Togusa wrote: I've had players get mad at me based off how I build my marines.
Back in 7th, I spent over a two hour game getting constantly made fun of by my opponent, because I brought a devastator squad with 3 Plasma Cannons and a Missile Launcher.
Furthermore he couldn't handle the fact that I made all of my Marine Sargent's the same way, with a Chainsword and a plasma pistol.
This guy was so offended by my choices that he went on about it FOR MONTHS. I'm a pretty patient and nice person, it takes a massive amount of harassment to get anything out of me, otherwise I probably would have smashed his head into the nearest wall. What's even worse, is that I still take a lot of flakk for this kind of stuff. It amazes me how angry people will get when viewing other peoples' choices in a toy game. There is actually a guy at another store who HATES the fact that I run White Scars primaris marines because according to him "You only run Ravenguard, no other tactics exist."
Dont you think that maybe the dude was just making fun of you, instead of being offended? I happens to me a lot of times.
If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain.
Togusa wrote: I've had players get mad at me based off how I build my marines.
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There is actually a guy at another store who HATES the fact that I run White Scars primaris marines because according to him "You only run Ravenguard, no other tactics exist."
I can't really think of anyway to say this, other than 'your meta is trash', but the last point seems to be just a friendly joke unless I missed something.
Dr. Mills wrote: The most annoying for me, is being tarred with the same brush as other players using the same army.
I run custodes. Pure Custodes. No FW or bikes either. In the big FLGS bear me, the the custodes players are hyper competitive with bikes, Telemon Dreads, guard CP batteries, the works.
And there's me with Allarus Terminators, mixed guard squads and even a Venerable Contemptor Dread. They look shocked!
Quite honestly it's that sort of knee jerk reaction people have to certain armies that has pushed me away from a lot of things. There is nothing like getting excited about a new army project only to have it all blown up by witnessing how dang mad people get over even thinking about running that faction.
Hell I got recommended not to start a Black Templars army at an old FLGS just because one player was a super fan of them and would basically flip his gak over other people playing them.....despite never playing them himself.
Can attest. The girlfriend of one of our players has a necrons army and despite barely ever playing, got super defensive when any one of us thought about trying the army out.
AKA "black dress syndrome". And, no. I'm not just saying that because it's a girl. It is a phenomenon that spills over into a lot of games, especially ones with only a few factions- "Oh, Grimtuff is collecting faction x. I wanted to collect faction x, now I have to collect faction y.". No you don't.
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Dr. Mills wrote: The most annoying for me, is being tarred with the same brush as other players using the same army.
I run custodes. Pure Custodes. No FW or bikes either. In the big FLGS bear me, the the custodes players are hyper competitive with bikes, Telemon Dreads, guard CP batteries, the works.
And there's me with Allarus Terminators, mixed guard squads and even a Venerable Contemptor Dread. They look shocked!
Quite honestly it's that sort of knee jerk reaction people have to certain armies that has pushed me away from a lot of things. There is nothing like getting excited about a new army project only to have it all blown up by witnessing how dang mad people get over even thinking about running that faction.
Hell I got recommended not to start a Black Templars army at an old FLGS just because one player was a super fan of them and would basically flip his gak over other people playing them.....despite never playing them himself.
Can attest. The girlfriend of one of our players has a necrons army and despite barely ever playing, got super defensive when any one of us thought about trying the army out.
AKA "black dress syndrome". And, no. I'm not just saying that because it's a girl. It is a phenomenon that spills over into a lot of games, especially ones with only a few factions- "Oh, Grimtuff is collecting faction x. I wanted to collect faction x, now I have to collect faction y.". No you don't.
Thing is, 40k has a CRAP LOOOAD of factions, with tons of subfactions within those factions (mostly in the Space Marines, mind.) But even still, I think that just breeds "my special army" syndrome even more.
Dr. Mills wrote: The most annoying for me, is being tarred with the same brush as other players using the same army.
I run custodes. Pure Custodes. No FW or bikes either. In the big FLGS bear me, the the custodes players are hyper competitive with bikes, Telemon Dreads, guard CP batteries, the works.
And there's me with Allarus Terminators, mixed guard squads and even a Venerable Contemptor Dread. They look shocked!
Quite honestly it's that sort of knee jerk reaction people have to certain armies that has pushed me away from a lot of things. There is nothing like getting excited about a new army project only to have it all blown up by witnessing how dang mad people get over even thinking about running that faction.
Hell I got recommended not to start a Black Templars army at an old FLGS just because one player was a super fan of them and would basically flip his gak over other people playing them.....despite never playing them himself.
Can attest. The girlfriend of one of our players has a necrons army and despite barely ever playing, got super defensive when any one of us thought about trying the army out.
AKA "black dress syndrome". And, no. I'm not just saying that because it's a girl. It is a phenomenon that spills over into a lot of games, especially ones with only a few factions- "Oh, Grimtuff is collecting faction x. I wanted to collect faction x, now I have to collect faction y.". No you don't.
So it goes both ways then? Chasing people off you your army of choice just the same as not picking other armies because they're too common?
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Thing is, 40k has a CRAP LOOOAD of factions, with tons of subfactions within those factions (mostly in the Space Marines, mind.) But even still, I think that just breeds "my special army" syndrome even more.
"You play [insert faction] too? Awesome, my guys are task force/watch fortress/special detachment/splinter fleet/whatever [Insert made-up name]."
I don't see how it's too hard for some people.
Hell, I made my own Chapter of Marines and a friend liked them so much, he asked if he could do the same Chapter. So now my fleet-based homebrew chapter has 4 full companies, just in different areas.
I just high-fived my scrum master at work today, because I found out the he has 3k points of orks in his basement.
I literally have never met and ork player who didn't want more ork players to have around.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
Not that it's banned or anything but what annoys me is players who have literally spent hours building a really overpowered list, for example, the guy last week who made his psychic dreadnought fly constantly heal and punch my Eldar flyer to death.
B3H0LD3R wrote: Not that it's banned or anything but what annoys me is players who have literally spent hours building a really overpowered list, for example, the guy last week who made his psychic dreadnought fly constantly heal and punch my Eldar flyer to death.
I'll be honest, if you lovingly build a stupidly OP list, I'll be less upset than if you show up with some grey plastic or primer chapter Marine nonsense.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
So, I have been playing this guy the past few weeks and while the games have been fun his attitude has been so so. Example: he plays Custodes regularly and when he would beat my Necrons they were "weak and fun to squish". However, if he played his GSC and I beat him with my Necrons than all of a sudden "Necrons are OP and Quantum Shielding is the most broken thing possible."
He does not like to loose btw and when he does lose he tells our Local Gaming group of what went down and how I'm no fun to play. Baring in mind everyone hates his Custodes army and the reason he is playing GSC is cause no one but me would play his toads.
We played 1.5k a few days ago. Turn 1 he was saying to everyone how his new GSC was going to wipe my Necrons and make me want to sell them. Turn 3 come and I lost about 5 warriors (RP rolls were amazing tbf) and he lost about 800pts of his army. Turn 4 he calls it and swears Necrons are more broken than his Custodes. Didn't know losing makes people turn into liars.
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We played 1.5k a few days ago. Turn 1 he was saying to everyone how his new GSC was going to wipe my Necrons and make me want to sell them. Turn 3 come and I lost about 5 warriors (RP rolls were amazing tbf) and he lost about 800pts of his army. Turn 4 he calls it and swears Necrons are more broken than his Custodes. Didn't know losing makes people turn into liars.
This guy just sounds like a whiny child. I never understood the "win at all costs" players who get personally offended when they lose, but turn to gloating and putting you down when they're winning. There must be something quite fragile in his ego to be this obnoxious. I ignore guys like that, play with the rest of the group until he gets a little more humble.
So it goes both ways then? Chasing people off you your army of choice just the same as not picking other armies because they're too common?
Yep, two different manifestations of the same "I want to be special" syndrome.
I think it depends, on the place. It maybe the special syndrom, but it may just be lack of stores. For example our store orders a limited number of models. So if 2 or 3 dudes decide to play the same army, there is a good chance that only one will have the proper units on time. I have not expirianced it myself, but I heard stories about how people were taking trips to other cities to buy out those few riptides, so people would either not have them and have bad armies, or have to buy from them at an increase price. Don't know why such a situation happened though. The best explanation I got, was from our store owner, that GW doesn't let store just buy the stuff that sells, and makes them dump money in to kits that stay for years un sold.
If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain.
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We played 1.5k a few days ago. Turn 1 he was saying to everyone how his new GSC was going to wipe my Necrons and make me want to sell them. Turn 3 come and I lost about 5 warriors (RP rolls were amazing tbf) and he lost about 800pts of his army. Turn 4 he calls it and swears Necrons are more broken than his Custodes. Didn't know losing makes people turn into liars.
This guy just sounds like a whiny child. I never understood the "win at all costs" players who get personally offended when they lose, but turn to gloating and putting you down when they're winning. There must be something quite fragile in his ego to be this obnoxious. I ignore guys like that, play with the rest of the group until he gets a little more humble.
He only likes winning via tabling as well e.g. If he won a game via VPs he would feel like his list wasn't as good as he thought. If he doesn't table people he isn't happy and that includes newbs and vets. He likes to win and likes to destroy other people's armies.
I don't mind playing him because I have fun but he hates losing and hates when his expectations were not met. Also, it feels good to beat him. Not many people in our group play him due to his attitude so I take it upon myself to take up his offer and give him what he gives us.
He also suggests he is not WAAC but only plays strong list that won't get tabled. His newer GSC list now has 2 Flyrants and several Zoanthropes (or whichever ones have an anti Pysker field, 3++ an so -1 to hit aura) packed with Cult Ambushing Neos to grab objectives and deny people's movement.
So, he's not a fun person to play but it's fun to play against him when you want to play a kid that throws everything out of the pram when gakk doesn't a swing his way.
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Is it wrong to find players that push for tournament-practice games in a group that don't play tournaments annoying?
Like I can deal with TFG's, I can deal with the bad BO (nose is shot but I'll carry a can of deo in my bag just in case), I can even handle bad winners and losers (having been one or the other at some point in time).
But pushing a style of gaming on a group that's predominately (like a 5:1 ratio) not into that style of gaming... that just irks me
BroodSpawn wrote: Is it wrong to find players that push for tournament-practice games in a group that don't play tournaments annoying?
Like I can deal with TFG's, I can deal with the bad BO (nose is shot but I'll carry a can of deo in my bag just in case), I can even handle bad winners and losers (having been one or the other at some point in time).
But pushing a style of gaming on a group that's predominately (like a 5:1 ratio) not into that style of gaming... that just irks me
As long as they're clear that's what they're asking for then I don't see a problem. Of course they're likely to end up with no-one to play them if the rest of the group isn't interested.
BroodSpawn wrote: Is it wrong to find players that push for tournament-practice games in a group that don't play tournaments annoying?
Like I can deal with TFG's, I can deal with the bad BO (nose is shot but I'll carry a can of deo in my bag just in case), I can even handle bad winners and losers (having been one or the other at some point in time).
But pushing a style of gaming on a group that's predominately (like a 5:1 ratio) not into that style of gaming... that just irks me
Asking for it is fine. But if he's the kind of guy who just constantly pesters people to play it when they're clearly not interested he needs to either find another group or compromise and start playing games closer to how the group does. Even if someone relents and agrees to a "tournament practice game" if it's a casual group it'll most likely be a waste of time. A player who doesn't play tournament style and isn't interested in doing so isn't going to be able to effectively simulate a tournament game.
