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I'd rather have a ton of human-sized models than what they did with Rogue Trader, where the Imperial side (the good-looking part) was only 10 models because they had the huge Nurgle trolls in there. Here both sides look great and there are so many models.

Everyone keeps saying Cadian, but is there any Cadian insignia on them?
They just look like standard guardsman.
Remember Chadians just happen to wear the common to many standard IG uniforms.
I think it would have been weird if they were traitor Mordian or something. (And heaven forbid if they did greatcoats - imagine the uproar “oh they can do traitor greatcoats, why haven’t we gotten plastic greatcoat...”)

 Mymearan wrote:
I'd rather have a ton of human-sized models than what they did with Rogue Trader, where the Imperial side (the good-looking part) was only 10 models because they had the huge Nurgle trolls in there. Here both sides look great and there are so many models.

Yeah, thats why you should only have one big guy instead of like... 3-4? That Rogue Trader had. That consumes a ton of sprue space.

Danny76 wrote:
Everyone keeps saying Cadian, but is there any Cadian insignia on them?
They just look like standard guardsman.
Remember Chadians just happen to wear the common to many standard IG uniforms.
I think it would have been weird if they were traitor Mordian or something. (And heaven forbid if they did greatcoats - imagine the uproar “oh they can do traitor greatcoats, why haven’t we gotten plastic greatcoat...”)

Yeah, the Cadian uniform is the standard imperial guard uniform across the galaxy, they could be from anywhere. But we all understand ourselves better if we say "Look at those cadian renegade guards!" instead of "Look at those renegade guards, wearing the Departmento Munitorum approved standard imperial guard equipment!"

Very impressed. I especially like Tad and the totally-not-a-Stormcast, as well as the renegades.


Gotta agree the elf ranger and the marines are the most dull. The elf is just a touch overdone in pose and extra bits and bobs, and the chaos marines.. I honestly want to go check and compare them to the chaos marines from the 6th/7th box set.

Ur-ghuls were also a bit... OK. But still, that's pretty impressive overall.

(Though Wrath and Ruin has first dibs on my money).

Danny76 wrote:
Everyone keeps saying Cadian, but is there any Cadian insignia on them?
They just look like standard guardsman.
Remember Chadians just happen to wear the common to many standard IG uniforms.
I think it would have been weird if they were traitor Mordian or something. (And heaven forbid if they did greatcoats - imagine the uproar “oh they can do traitor greatcoats, why haven’t we gotten plastic greatcoat...”)

Other way around. Cadian gear is commonly used by others.

That said, I'm really hoping this might be a sign of a recut Cadian kit.


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 Mymearan wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Looks like Robo man is about Primaris or Custodes size? I really want to know what its story is.

Might be Dark age of Technology-era tech like the Kastellans? Looks similar in some ways like the curved art deco-ish shins and smooth round shapes.

One thing that a lot of people lamented with the Skitarii book was the lack of the 'old' style of stuff from the Horus Heresy artbooks.

I'm definitely hoping this is a Skitarii HQ choice. We're lacking one and it'd be a nice touch to have it be more machine than man.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Everyone keeps saying Cadian, but is there any Cadian insignia on them?
They just look like standard guardsman.
Remember Cadians just happen to wear the common to many standard IG uniforms.
I think it would have been weird if they were traitor Mordian or something. (And heaven forbid if they did greatcoats - imagine the uproar “oh they can do traitor greatcoats, why haven’t we gotten plastic greatcoat...”)

Other way around. Cadian gear is commonly used by others.

That said, I'm really hoping this might be a sign of a recut Cadian kit.

Not quite. It’s Cadian Pattern carapace armour used by most Munitorums and Forge World productions.so they all wear the armour.
(Unless by gear that’s what you mean, but it’s not made by the Cadian regiment is what I mean)

I more mean they aren’t ‘Cadians’

Nitpicking really
They look great either way!

And yeah a recut wouldn’t go amiss

Great set of models, this is going on the Christmas list!

 BrookM wrote:
And from the trailer, bit blurry:

My goodness she's armed with a Vindicator! S10 pie plates!

Danny76 wrote:

Not quite. It’s Cadian Pattern carapace armour used by most Munitorums and Forge World productions.so they wear the armour.

I more mean they aren’t ‘Cadians’

Nitpicking really
They look great either way!

If you want to nitpick, the gear is produced by Kantrael--one of many Forge Worlds that supply Cadia...

But again:
Cadian gear has been called out for at least three editions now as being widely produced and emulated by non-Cadian regiments specifically to parrot the Cadians. You also have Cadian Regiments that might have settled elsewhere(Brimlock Dragoons IIRC) that have their gear as "heirlooms".

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
And from the trailer, bit blurry:

My goodness she's armed with a Vindicator! S10 pie plates!

Looks more like "Vindictor" to me...

I want pretty much every single one of those models, the robot in particular is a must-have for me. GW didn't disappoint!

 Kanluwen wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

Not quite. It’s Cadian Pattern carapace armour used by most Munitorums and Forge World productions.so they wear the armour.

I more mean they aren’t ‘Cadians’

Nitpicking really
They look great either way!

If you want to nitpick, the gear is produced by Kantrael--one of many Forge Worlds that supply Cadia...

But again:
Cadian gear has been called out for at least three editions now as being widely produced and emulated by non-Cadian regiments specifically to parrot the Cadians. You also have Cadian Regiments that might have settled elsewhere(Brimlock Dragoons IIRC) that have their gear as "heirlooms".

I fear they are gonna be pricey to pick up too, them and the few other bits I want.

I may have to pick up the box and sell off individual models I don’t want..

"I kicked out Valve it wasn't working anymore."
"Good for you. All these games you bought and never played."
"GW is moving back in with me."
"Wait, what?! All the minatures that are unpainted and you still haven't even assembled..."
"HE SAYS HE LOVES ME! IT WILL BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME!"

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Gotta say, very impressed all round with the set and it's probably something I'll buy.

I am disappointed with the ranger, the massive spirit stone doesn't coincide with the rest of the line and the chicken toed pose leaves it very jarring to look at.

Right there with you. The "sassy bad girl" Infinity-esque pose is a major drag. Totally out of character with the line and the aesthetic

Wait a minute! Chaos Marines aren't allowed Thunder Hammers!

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Wait a minute! Chaos Marines aren't allowed Thunder Hammers!

It's Daemon Thunder (or some such, probably much more archaic and fancy), a special artifact weapon. Totally fine

 Togusa wrote:

ecurtz wrote:
That chaos psycher is a thing of (grotesque) beauty.

When the worst looking model in the box is a mediocre Eldar you're definitely doing something right.

Bro, are you High? That Ranger is incredible. I hope to God that this means a full plastic kit is on the way to replace the old finecast nonsense.

Agreed, that Ranger is spectacular. It's amazing how different people's aesthetics can be.

 bullyboy wrote:


Agreed, that Ranger is spectacular. It's amazing how different people's aesthetics can be.

Yeah, she's totally awesome. I really hope she gets some solid 40K rules.

 Symbio Joe wrote:
"I kicked out Valve it wasn't working anymore."
"Good for you. All these games you bought and never played."
"GW is moving back in with me."
"Wait, what?! All the minatures that are unpainted and you still haven't even assembled..."
"HE SAYS HE LOVES ME! IT WILL BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME!"

I lol'd

 bullyboy wrote:


Agreed, that Ranger is spectacular. It's amazing how different people's aesthetics can be.

The design is great, the execution of the pose is not.

Those beast men look kinda trolly. They're not the best looking in terms of pretty, but they sure do look neat.

 Crimson wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:


Agreed, that Ranger is spectacular. It's amazing how different people's aesthetics can be.

Yeah, she's totally awesome. I really hope she gets some solid 40K rules.

I also think the model is awesome with enough details and lack of those to make some beautiful conversions but i can also understand the complaints of the Odd pose.

It's like the jumping keg leg (Callidus, Autarch) it looks good in a frozen in time pose for a photo but seems odd if you want a more in the *action* or *situation* model. Kinda similar to when Ulrik new models was released, some people like it for the martial contemplating battlefield but others dislike that specific pose.

Either way at a quick glance i can count up to 37 maybe 38ish models total.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

The design is great, the execution of the pose is not.

Yeah I think the pose look super awkward too. Take aim or holding a rifle in 2 hand pose would have been fine. My prefer pose is kneeling on some scenery taking aim, like Illic Nightspear.

I have always been a fan of "open" poses, makes it a pleasure to paint since every part is reachable with no sup assembly painting required. They tend to photograph really well too.

These are fantastic models.
Very good poses, nothing cartoony or over-designed (but every detail is excellent), and in my opinion most of them are really in tone with the setting.

Amazing. I have been waiting for GW to do stuff like this for well over a decade.

I absolutely love the cast of characters, and even more so the Chaos side (those traitor Guard and rogue psyker). I can't wait to pick this up.

I'm hoping the traitor guard and beastmen get rules for Kill Team.

One thing that might ruin this for me is if all heroes have to be in play regardless of how many people are playing. I'd rather the game scaled to the number of players or heroes being used. It could get too much of a drag if two people played this and had to do actions with all these heroes. I'd rather it was like silver tower where I picked one and then got on with it.

 Thargrim wrote:
One thing that might ruin this for me is if all heroes have to be in play regardless of how many people are playing. I'd rather the game scaled to the number of players or heroes being used. It could get too much of a drag if two people played this and had to do actions with all these heroes. I'd rather it was like silver tower where I picked one and then got on with it.

Any thoughtful designer would make encounter spawn based on number of player (like Silver tower did)

From the GW Instagram account. Easy to zoom in to reveal a few things.

The robot is "UR-D25" or "UR-025", "Imperial Robot", the lady with the flamer is a "missionary" ...
I count 36 minis total on the picture.

Looking at the tiles, it seems that some are corridors between rooms and that makes me think they will move around (also given the narrative in one video that GW released).
There are about 20 tiles not on the board as pictured, and which are on the side, again indicating that the board will be built as you play.
On the game board, it also looks like there are 2 layers of tiles at multiple places.

There are cards of Initiative, Encounter, ... and maybe Discovery and Expeditions? ... plus two other stacks I could not read the name of (Legacy?? .

There are two large cardboard templates that seem to be used to track what is happening during the game and to keep some cards on.
The template with cards on seems to have images of ships on it ...
The other one has 8 markers on one side, 4 of which have characters, while the other have an "hostile group" card ... and 4 markers on the other side, matching the hostile groups from the first side and the Encouter stack of cards.