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Would have been nice to have
the details for all the traitor gards...

Picture for the (rather big) sprue does not help that much


Ordered anyway.

Sad that the box is not hefty enough to qualify for free express shipping.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'm really hoping thats because these will eventually be khorngors

They’d just be Khorngors here if that was the case.

Yeah, that why the important word is hope. hope is something fee, when you want something but you think or know its not really going to happen.

I know a lot of people have expressed not liking the new beastmen, but I have to say I really love them. I am a huge fan of a ton of varieties of beastmen with various bestial features. It really plays into the whole "horde of chaos mutant rabble" feeling well.

Surprised on the price (with all the hype I just was reading on Community thought would be $260+) .Shadows over Hammerhal etc was $250 AU, I think Silver tower when bought was similar. Fortress is only $220 AU, instant order cause I love these types of boardgames. Seems solid.

Beastmen look bad? Look at the Ur ghul, easily the worst models from that box, Our group split 4 boxes and no one want the Ur ghul. All they have to do is copy exactly the pose from the resin one.

W00t. Pre ordered. Christmas prezzie so I'll need to wait a bit, but it'll be worth the wait.

I don't get what the problem with the Ur-Ghul is. I mean, it looks like an Ur-Ghul. What was everyone expecting?

I don't get the hate on any of the models. The chaos look ok, Im sure most buying for the Characters (well I am and the game mainly). The models as said in description are push fit (so don't expect much), so no biggy meh, I honestly want a good board game over 40k equivalent multi change models, I can get models for days, a good board game...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't get what the problem with the Ur-Ghul is. I mean, it looks like an Ur-Ghul. What was everyone expecting?

Agreed. It looks like what it's supposed to be so I don't see a problem with it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't get what the problem with the Ur-Ghul is. I mean, it looks like an Ur-Ghul. What was everyone expecting?

It's probably the pose which is essentially the same for all four of them, instead of two at least recognizably different poses. I looked at the 360s and was pleasantly surprised that they didn't look as bad as I feared after the first pictures.

I am actually less impressed with some of the explorers after the 360s, and it's probably for the same reason that others have a problem with the Ur-Ghuls. The models are monopose as expected, yes, but in spite of some clever monopose models GW has made of late (just look at Shadespire), you can really see with these that they were sculpted to with sprue space in mind first and foremost, and the model's appearance second. At least that's what I think.

I'm mostly kept criticism of the Ranger to myself until now, but after seeing the model from different angles, I think I stand by what I said jokingly earlier in the thread. She looks like a model on the runway showing off the latest Ranger fashion. I really don't know how else to interpret that pose.

I think my favorite explorer is the priest who doesn't suffer from any of this, and Black Hammer on the antagonist side, although I'm not sure he counts because he has his own sprue.

Chikout wrote:

JWBS wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Australia and New Zealand both got slightly cheaper than usual prices than usual for this. No such luck in Japan unfortunately. Here it is the equivalent of £146.
Still tempted though. The rules look genuinely interesting and a nice step up from Silver Tower.

Why better than ST? FOr the rules? (I just bought ST, I liked the minis, not too fussed about th card stock and rules set). Or betetr value? More fun? Or something else?

From watching a couple of videos it looks like they have taken the core of silver tower, layered in more role-playing elements from the original warhammer Quest and and improved the replayability. It just looks like a more complete package than Silver Tower which I enjoyed for what it was.

Yea looks to be the usual and unfortunate dynamic of Sigmar being the testing ground for 40K.

After going back and reading all these comments (cause bored). It is they are gak even if don't own, focuses on some models... <removed> me. Buy it and see. If hate it that much step off. Im not a GW fan boy, I buy what want and I will buy this cause awesome price, game I like (have bought all Quest games), I like the board game aesthetic. Models, bonus (i like the look and models). For $220 Au I am an auto buy for me.


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 Daedalus81 wrote:

Chikout wrote:

JWBS wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Australia and New Zealand both got slightly cheaper than usual prices than usual for this. No such luck in Japan unfortunately. Here it is the equivalent of £146.
Still tempted though. The rules look genuinely interesting and a nice step up from Silver Tower.

Why better than ST? FOr the rules? (I just bought ST, I liked the minis, not too fussed about th card stock and rules set). Or betetr value? More fun? Or something else?

From watching a couple of videos it looks like they have taken the core of silver tower, layered in more role-playing elements from the original warhammer Quest and and improved the replayability. It just looks like a more complete package than Silver Tower which I enjoyed for what it was.

Yea looks to be the usual and unfortunate dynamic of Sigmar being the testing ground for 40K.

Gunna say if 40k had of taken the ap or rend characteristic into account would make 40k a better game today, eg not as many minus AP

Shadows Over Hammerhal is back in stock on the GW UK site. Hopefully BSF does well enough for GW to consider revisiting the AOS setting for a quest game, or at least re-release and support Silver Tower.

Wondering if GW inadvertently spoiled the Vault surprise - check the description for the limited version of the Blackstone book......

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Shadows Over Hammerhal is back in stock on the GW UK site. Hopefully BSF does well enough for GW to consider revisiting the AOS setting for a quest game, or at least re-release and support Silver Tower.

Hammerhal has never been oos on GW Aus (and is still in stock), Silver tower is not in stock but the addatives are still in stock. However Space hulk Generation 2 etc is not anymore and other main games. I think they make a limited release per country (language) if sold out, is out for ever, for these board games/limited releases. I order alot if sold of in french (from Canada, cause never sells well, get all the models just rules in french).

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
Wondering if GW inadvertently spoiled the Vault surprise - check the description for the limited version of the Blackstone book......

Not seeing it?

Spectral Ceramite wrote:
For $220 Au I am an auto buy for me.

Why even pay that much? Oz has discounters.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Spectral Ceramite wrote:
For $220 Au I am an auto buy for me.

Why even pay that much? Oz has discounters.

I actually order from the uk and get it with shipping and the new import tax for $199AU if cheaper please post me a link

I wonder if this will sell out. I've already spent my gaming budget this month otherwise I'd be all over it.

 Luciferian wrote:
I wonder if this will sell out. I've already spent my gaming budget this month otherwise I'd be all over it.

They have said a 2week preorder, I think they want it to sell out (have budget for it)

I'm a big fan of those beastmen models. I hope this means we will see some more beastman in the future. That model range needs a lot of help, and I could see what they did with the Tzeentch release and make several cross-range kits.

I mean killzone scector mechanicus is still out of stock (I bought 2 when came out) idk how many months later...IDK if same but if dont pre order prob be out for awhile

Pre-ordered from my phone and when I got home I noticed that my pre-order also includes this:



I wish I had this when we still played Rogue Trader.

Is paper that hard to find where you are?

Honestly it looks far too plain and unadorned for a Rogue Trader's writ.
The language is far too simple by 17th century privateering standards, let alone 41st millennium

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't get what the problem with the Ur-Ghul is. I mean, it looks like an Ur-Ghul. What was everyone expecting?


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maybe a better pose than 4 of them looking like theyre doing a bad mannequin challenge

Voss wrote:
Is paper that hard to find where you are?

Voss wrote:
Is paper that hard to find where you are?

Honestly it looks far too plain and unadorned for a Rogue Trader's writ.
The language is far too simple by 17th century privateering standards, let alone 41st millennium

I was gunna say a similar thing...exclusive to buy, get some cheap paper with a bit of writing (in a game the emphasises plastic models...)

 streetsamurai wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't get what the problem with the Ur-Ghul is. I mean, it looks like an Ur-Ghul. What was everyone expecting?

maybe a better pose than 4 of them looking like theyre doing a bad mannequin challenge

Not many people care about some obsucred xenos monkey, so GW can get away giving them the most boring, soulless pose possible. Also the resin one have a lot more weird and complex muscle/bone structure than the new one.

Chopstick wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I don't get what the problem with the Ur-Ghul is. I mean, it looks like an Ur-Ghul. What was everyone expecting?

maybe a better pose than 4 of them looking like theyre doing a bad mannequin challenge

Not many people care about some obsucred xenos monkey, so GW can get away giving them the most boring, soulless pose possible. Also the resin one have a lot more weird and complex muscle/bone structure than the new one.

If looking at a pose and going into complex bone structure....your are stretching