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 Tiberius501 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yeah that price is insane for such a small expansion. That's a damn shame

So what all comes in it, since you apparently know everything in it? I mean if you know that the price is insane for "such a small expansion".

All we know from the Open Day:
Ambull is a 60mm based model. Looks larger than UR025(the largest model in BSF).
There's the "hatchlings", which are small swarms.
There's a book--no page counts.
Cards(assumed from their talk of treasure and upgrades).

It may not be too bad for you guys, but $100 is a bit paintful for us in Aus, considering how much came in the starter box and how much that cost. I dunno, a model and some hatchlings and some cards. I guess all you get for that price is a single tank, but that's probably why I don't buy tanks haha.
But for people in other countries it's most likely reasonable.

Or maybe it's because I play it with a group and if they want to play this, I'm making them kick in towards it.

MarkNorfolk wrote:
I think there's more to the box than just the model...

I know. It is a boardgame expansion. And one at an insane price point, as boardgame expansions go, unless they offer a lot of gameplay. And this one appears to add an additional encounter, so far.

Cool, looking forward to picking it up

Has anyone come up with a way to scheme homebrew characters by chance?

Was hoping for £30, but £35 is about right.

He appears to be roughly the size of an Orc Megaboss(£24) and comes with two other models and the expansion content. Weighing him up against the AT Reaver(also £35), it feels fair.

That being said, I'm hoping that this will be a similar case of the AT warhounds, which were £45 in White Dwarf but then £40 on the website.

£30 would be great - if GW used something close to real exchange rates, at least for the USD.

That would put it at $39, before discounts.

I suppose even £35 would be OK, as that would be $45, again before discounts.

Sadly though, GW has its own Exchange Rate system, and it is...not good.

Thankfully I'm in the UK( not too far from Nottingham ) but I do feel for fellow customers in other parts of the world.

As far as I know GW stock is produced in country for the UK, rather than China for the rest of the world.

Considering how small England is and their outrageous fortune, I'm surprised GW hasn't set up a facility in at least the States to produce stock locally.

Australia is definitely getting a raw deal. Nothing worse than a sharp, hard kick in the nuts.

There is a US production plant. Memphis, I think?

Barring some scenery bits, it’s all made in the U.K. or USA.

 Alpharius wrote:
£30 would be great - if GW used something close to real exchange rates, at least for the USD.

That would put it at $39, before discounts.

I suppose even £35 would be OK, as that would be $45, again before discounts.

Sadly though, GW has its own Exchange Rate system, and it is...not good.

If you think it's bad now just wait until Brexit truly hits.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/10/pre-order-next-week-the-dreaded-ambull/

Next week

Tempted to splash out on the carry case. Haven’t any spare at the moment, and my BSF models are currently in an old biccie tin.

Is it just me or is the Ambull-Adrena Gland Distillation card really poorly written?
"Discard this card when this is explorer is activated"

I agree that the price point is far too steep by board gaming standards. Unfortunately, it's about where I expected it to be for a GW product. Sadly, that's why I spend most my board gaming funds on other companies. GW give boardgamers very little comparative value for their financial investment.

I can only imagine how much that carrying case will set a sucker back.

Definitely getting this guy. The 40k rules could be good for use as a wandering monster, shame there's nothing for Kill Team though.

But it looks like a quite week for GW. Catching there breath after two AoS battle tomes and before Shadowspear launches?

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Definitely getting this guy. The 40k rules could be good for use as a wandering monster, shame there's nothing for Kill Team though.

But it looks like a quite week for GW. Catching there breath after two AoS battle tomes and before Shadowspear launches?

All the Black Library celebration stuff comes out on the same day as the Ambull.

and the ambots are still to come.

and maybe the next BB team that they have not even shown

Edit: never mind.

GaroRobe wrote:
Is it just me or is the Ambull-Adrena Gland Distillation card really poorly written?
"Discard this card when this is explorer is activated"

Not just you. Extraneous 'is' in front of 'explorer.' Needed an editing pass, especially since it got used in the preview pic.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Definitely getting this guy. The 40k rules could be good for use as a wandering monster, shame there's nothing for Kill Team though.

But it looks like a quite week for GW. Catching there breath after two AoS battle tomes and before Shadowspear launches?

Does The Dreaded Ambull come with 40K rules for the Ambull? Or would you be using ye olde 40K: Rogue Trader stats?

The preview says it comes with 40k rules.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
The preview says it comes with 40k rules.

I don't quite understand how an Ambull would fit in with any of the armies of the 40K universe. What factions will be able to take it, and in what capacity?

 Norchack wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
The preview says it comes with 40k rules.

I don't quite understand how an Ambull would fit in with any of the armies of the 40K universe. What factions will be able to take it, and in what capacity?

DE Beastmasters would be the closest fit one would think.

Ah, WH-Community. Somehow I missed the update.

Well, that changes things! Although I won't be using him for BSF, but with 40K rules it wouldn't be too hard to mod him for Kill Team.

 Norchack wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
The preview says it comes with 40k rules.

I don't quite understand how an Ambull would fit in with any of the armies of the 40K universe. What factions will be able to take it, and in what capacity?

You can also play BSF drones as an unaligned 40k troops choice, and IMHO alien AI makes even less sense as part of a 40k army than an ambull...

SamusDrake wrote:
Ah, WH-Community. Somehow I missed the update.

Well, that changes things! Although I won't be using him for BSF, but with 40K rules it wouldn't be too hard to mod him for Kill Team.

It really surprises me that GW aren't including rules for use in Kill Team in this expansion. It seems like an obvious choice.

The 40k rules are for narrative play games. Unusual stuff. Not the sort of thing you'd just stuff into a tournament list.

 ImAGeek wrote:

All the Black Library celebration stuff comes out on the same day as the Ambull.

Thats good news, I've been waiting for the Greyfax/Celestine drama.

But even so its still an unusually quite week given GW's recent breakneck pace, especially on the model front. I guess I'm just impatent to get my hands on the new CSM and Primaris.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
The 40k rules are for narrative play games. Unusual stuff. Not the sort of thing you'd just stuff into a tournament list.

That would make sense. A scenario about capturing or hunting the beast and its young shouldn't be hard to put together. Although part of me wishes it would have OTT match play rules just for the lols of Ambull spam becoming a thing

 Norchack wrote:

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
The preview says it comes with 40k rules.

I don't quite understand how an Ambull would fit in with any of the armies of the 40K universe. What factions will be able to take it, and in what capacity?

Well, he was originally part of 40K back in its early days when it wasn't limited to just two armies having a battle. There was room to allow for a third player to referee and control alien creatures that happened to be present in an environment. Such a creature presented a danger to both sides; perhaps a nearby rocket explosion wakes him up and will attack the nearest unit.

Any word on price? At £30 (with discount from your retailer of choice, obviously) it starts to look like an instant buy.

If so, hopefully the first of many. If GW take the Michael with price then less excited...

 Norchack wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Ah, WH-Community. Somehow I missed the update.

Well, that changes things! Although I won't be using him for BSF, but with 40K rules it wouldn't be too hard to mod him for Kill Team.

It really surprises me that GW aren't including rules for use in Kill Team in this expansion. It seems like an obvious choice.

Absolutely. He'd make for a team-vs-monster, like an Imperial Guard team trying to kill a Broodlord. It would make for a cracking White Dwarf article!


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 IGtR= wrote:
Any word on price? At £30 (with discount from your retailer of choice, obviously) it starts to look like an instant buy.

If so, hopefully the first of many. If GW take the Michael with price then less excited...

£35, apparently. But it could still change, like the AT Warhounds( £45 in WD, then £40 on the website ).