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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 02:19:27
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The cards in front of the 'encounter' pack look like 'infection' and something 'level', which may be interesting, plus I would like to see how dangerous the grenade flail is. Let's just wait and see next week before we turn this aside. And yes, I would rather see something not chaos, like some inquisitor going after you or something...
Everyone wanting the Plague Brothers- They need glue, the E2B marines...well...don't. I really can't make it more obvious than that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 06:10:33
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Dakka Veteran
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bullyboy wrote: kilcin wrote:I'm just getting tired of dealing with Chaos in this Xenos labyrinth. Hopefully the added gameplay makes up for it.
So much this. No more Nurgle (should be a campaign slogan for the Imperium), please.
I cannot agree enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 07:21:44
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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What a low-effort release! Should have been a White Dwarf add-on, given how many of these minis people already own via starter sets and Conquest...
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 09:27:57
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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This is disappointing, the point of the Black Legion marines was that they were meant to be terrifying to meet. Now there’s 3 Plague Marines knocking about? BSF just builds you up then knocks you down hard.
Am I expected to pay £30+ for models I have half a dozen times just to get some new cards?
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Imperial Soup
2200pts/1750 painted
2800pts/1200 painted
2200pts/650 painted
217pts/151 painted |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 09:29:34
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Kinda shame that they did not give us more xenos, or traitor guard instead. Nope they just had to give us these models, and i'd assume at a steep upcharge
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 09:31:28
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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One of the audio dramas, the Beast Inside, features a warband of Nurgle cultists trying to establish a foothold in the fortress. Probably not long now until the first Primaris beakie arrives.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 10:12:35
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Maybe they should consider packing some of their 30-35$ characters into this as explorer, and sell it for a slightly cheaper price than the total value. Game is already too simplistic and boring, different flavor of badie won't really help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 12:45:00
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Would be an amazing plot twist if the Nurgle boyz were Explorers and the poxwalkers a retinue character (that happens to be multiple models like rein and raus) you could “hire” but that ain’t happening.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 16:44:28
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Fixture of Dakka
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Chopstick wrote:Maybe they should consider packing some of their 30-35$ characters into this as explorer, and sell it for a slightly cheaper price than the total value. Game is already too simplistic and boring, different flavor of badie won't really help.
When they repacked a lot of the clampack characters for kill team most of them ended up far more expensive than originally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/10 17:40:15
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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parakuribo wrote:The cards in front of the 'encounter' pack look like 'infection' and something 'level', which may be interesting, plus I would like to see how dangerous the grenade flail is. Let's just wait and see next week before we turn this aside. And yes, I would rather see something not chaos, like some inquisitor going after you or something...
Everyone wanting the Plague Brothers- They need glue, the E2B marines...well...don't. I really can't make it more obvious than that.
The Space Marine Heroes ones don't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 01:34:09
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Euro price is equal to the Traitor Command box. Traitor Command is AUD$105 (WTF?) for 2 miniatures plus the rules. Those Death Guard minis are, combined AUD$50. So an extra $55 for rules/cards. Ouch...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 04:06:14
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Fixture of Dakka
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How much were the last couple of decks of cards they put out for BSF?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 04:41:10
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wow this is actually a 60US$ box. Put this in the top 10 prank that went too far.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/02/11 04:42:03
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 10:04:50
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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If this really is a £37.50 box then it's probably the worst value box they've ever released.
You can get First Strike for £25 and you get 6 Primaris Marines in there as well.
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Imperial Soup
2200pts/1750 painted
2800pts/1200 painted
2200pts/650 painted
217pts/151 painted |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 11:31:31
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Woof.....had this expansion been just the price of the two ETB kits combined and had some rules for the minis I could see picking up a kit for people to add some variety to their game, but at double that? Good luck moving this one GW.....these BSF expansions are just outrageously priced, but at least the other ones include new miniatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 11:49:48
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Ahahahah, oh wow GW.
...wait, you're serious? Eff that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 11:51:31
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Euro price is equal to the Traitor Command box.
Traitor Command is AUD$105 ( WTF?) for 2 miniatures plus the rules.
Those Death Guard minis are, combined AUD$50. So an extra $55 for rules/cards.
Ouch...
Called it
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 11:55:31
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Yeah, that's a terrible set at the price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 11:59:25
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Radical thinking.
Maybe, just, I dunno, don’t buy it then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 12:00:52
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Come now Grotsnik. You're better than that. And smarter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 12:05:31
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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But I genuinely don’t get it.
Expansion, so optional. People find it poor value.
What do we with things poor value?
Not buy them. I’m BSF daft, and have everything but the annual (I keep forgetting to buy it, but I will). This ‘un? Got the models already, so don’t fancy paying so much just for the card bits and additional rules. So I’m just.....not gonna buy it.
I’ll have that Zoat though. Oh yes, you’ll see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 12:42:34
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Look like you answer your own question with your reason of not buying. Maybe they should.......make new kit so people actually wanna buy it. Or at least have the price of the box not double the plastic value, or throw some cheap character kit in there as explorer., or using the "death guard reinforcement" kit instead....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 12:45:03
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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That we’re agreed on. I just don’t get why it’s such a hot topic of conversation.
If perhaps this had a single exclusive, really nice sculpt? I’d get it.
But it doesn’t. Just a bunch of peeps harping on about ‘do not want’.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 12:45:25
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Dakka Veteran
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:But I genuinely don’t get it.
Expansion, so optional. People find it poor value.
What do we with things poor value?
Not buy them. I’m BSF daft, and have everything but the annual (I keep forgetting to buy it, but I will). This ‘un? Got the models already, so don’t fancy paying so much just for the card bits and additional rules. So I’m just.....not gonna buy it.
I’ll have that Zoat though. Oh yes, you’ll see.
You`re making too much sence. You should stop that and start whining, you`re on the warhammer forums after all.
This set is no bueno, so vote with your wallet. People seem to confuse deluxe goods with mandatory taxes.
I just hope they make a fantasy version of Blackstone fortress one day... Again. The previous iteration is dead, probably partly because no new minis were introduced in the follow up to the Silver Tower. Lets hope the same thing doesn`t happen to BFortress
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 13:11:44
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Yeah, that' what I've done so far.
Doesn't seem to be doing much. though, because they keep releasing more of these. Automatically Appended Next Post: SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:This set is no bueno, so vote with your wallet. People seem to confuse deluxe goods with mandatory taxes.
Maybe, just maybe, people are confusing low content boardgame expansions with low content wargame expansions. Probably because that's what they are.
And GW seems to be confusing low content boardgame expansions with deluxe goods.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 13:34:47
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Dakka Veteran
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Albertorius wrote:
Yeah, that' what I've done so far.
Doesn't seem to be doing much. though, because they keep releasing more of these.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:This set is no bueno, so vote with your wallet. People seem to confuse deluxe goods with mandatory taxes.
Maybe, just maybe, people are confusing low content boardgame expansions with low content wargame expansions. Probably because that's what they are.
And GW seems to be confusing low content boardgame expansions with deluxe goods.
Even if it`s a boardgame and not a wargame (thus DLCs have more content for an overall game in proportion), it is still optional. so I`m not sure in what you were going for with the first sentence.
I`m, pretty sure you know, what I meant, but just in case -It`s a box of extra things for a boardgame with miniatures, so in no way this is mandatory for people to obtain (even lower on the food chain of necessities than extra clothes, 5$ coffee in the morning, ect) , that`s why I categorized it as a deluxe good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 14:09:30
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Nothing is, by definition, mandatory. You might decide not to buy the core game as that isn't mandatory either. As that doesn't add anything to the discussion I'm just obviating it.
Something doesn't need to be mandatory for people to think it's overprized, bad or missing the point of what it is. People don't need stuff to be mandatory to be allowed to criticize it, either.
This is kind of the thing you do in a discussion forum. You discuss, you give your opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 15:12:01
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/11/no-respite-new-arrivalsgw-homepage-post-1/ Oh hey, filler article. That actually remind me that space marine heroes 3 also have death guard marine...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 18:55:18
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Who knows where those wonderful Plague Marine models could turn up eventually.
Most of the series one models have ended up split across different board games.
I do think this set could have been an opportunity for GW to release the Death Guard reinforcements trio in a different manner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/11 19:53:07
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Death Guard Reinforcements are a hilarious price gouge already.
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