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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 10:05:50
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My next purchase was going to be either BSF or get into Star Wars: Imperial Assault. I think it will be the latter now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 12:11:16
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Sad to see this is the last expansion coming for this run. I must admit I have enjoyed seeing all the more rare 40k additions.
I see a lot of places have sold out of the core set and a few of the expansions.
What are peoples guess at how long it will be for you cannot get out of this stuff outside of scalpers on ebay. I do know it has already happened to a few of the card and smaller expasions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 12:32:31
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I'm a completionist as well, but at the same time I really hate owning duplicate models. That allows my desire for all the BSF expansions to be defeated by my desire not to own duplicates of those 3 Plague Marines. But you better believe I've been looking for a miniatureless version of No Respite on eBay. And it turns out I had $20 of store credit. That'll do! That brings the overall discount up to around 31%. Can't complain about that. I'm surprised it requires Escalation. It's unusual for an expansion to require another expansion. On the bright side at least it requires an expansion GW sells, rather than a card pack that was on sale for 18 nanoseconds before going out of stock forever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 13:09:36
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I thought I’d bagged a model less set of No Respite, but it was actually Escalation :(
Eventually caved and ordered it proper. Yes I feel bad. Not normally one to worry about prices as I’m sure folk know. But.....yeeesh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 13:42:01
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Apparently these sell so well they mostly sold out, that's why the price ended up like this. In case they were not sold out, GW just threw them in their loot crate thingy now, easy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 14:11:12
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Chopsticks, sources? I hadn't heard either of those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 14:20:45
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just go to the webstore and check for yourself, on some regions the old expansions, especially the english version, are gone. In case thing don't sell, they just throw them in the loot crate like how they did with the Champion of Dreadfan box, with their heavily inflated price that's easily ate a big chunk out of their total "value" in those crates. But a "Black stone fortress mystery crate" at half the total price MIGHT be a good buy, if that happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 14:43:11
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but without knowing print run, reprint rate, and expected sales volume, compared across lines, we have little to work with other than vaguely informed speculation about what selling "well" looks like. Even things like a kit selling out in a day is hard to gauge since GW often artificially limits things with short print runs to make them more desirable (the idea of limited edition print on demand is just absurd to me), besides less manipulative strategies like prioritizing reprinting kits that sell in high volumes or simply having supply issues or hedging with possibly over or under-printing in whichever way will be the best bet.
You can tell when a limited item hangs around that it failed to generate hype, and not a lot else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 15:19:05
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Terrifying Doombull
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They certainly seem to be pushing the guardian drones for use in 40k. That suggests a bit lack of faith in this 'final expansion' to sell in its own right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 15:20:32
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Is it though?
They’ve pushed 40k rules for all of it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 15:32:08
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Terrifying Doombull
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Take a look at the NZ front page.
"Get your Guardian Drones
Add these maniacal mechanoids to ANY Warhammer 40,000 army"
I don't remember the basic store link hyping up the 40K aspect for other expansions, or even the base game. Just that 40K rules are included is somewhere in the product description.
For these, the BSF aspect seems to be the afterthought.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 15:45:42
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Voss wrote:Take a look at the NZ front page.
"Get your Guardian Drones
Add these maniacal mechanoids to ANY Warhammer 40,000 army"
I don't remember the basic store link hyping up the 40K aspect. Just that 40K rules are included is somewhere in the product description.
For these, the BSF aspect seems to be the afterthought. IDK about an afterthought, but yeah they're pushing the 40k use harder. And yeah, makes sense. If you want to use it in your board game, at retail you'll have put in $370. That's an insane price for what amounts to a single and mostly inflexible campaign narrative arc in a very light dungeon crawl.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 04:43:04
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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I set my jaw and bought the original game, but I promised myself I wouldn't buy into the expansions, knowing they would be overpriced.
Instead, my son and I have been making custom characters and enemies for the game. Some of the more memorable were a Fallen Dark Angel masquerading as a regular Dark Angel, a Commissar and his IG bodyguards, a Black Rage Blood Angel Terminator and a Cyborg Ogryn.
On the enemies, we added things like actual Necrons, Dark Elf slavers, Tau pathfinders and a berserk Hellbrute. If we had a 40K minituature for it, we considered statting it up for the game as a possible enemy. We even delved into my D&D models (starting with a $4.99 Umber Hulk for an Ambull) for some weird enemies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 02:30:42
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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So, with Acension out it seems like the majority of expansions are OOP or headed that way. I've been grabbing whatever I can from Amazon and my LGS, but why is Traitor Command so expensive and hard to find now? Even loose models are crazy jacked up on ebay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 06:40:30
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Charging Wild Rider
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Prometheum5 wrote:So, with Acension out it seems like the majority of expansions are OOP or headed that way. I've been grabbing whatever I can from Amazon and my LGS, but why is Traitor Command so expensive and hard to find now? Even loose models are crazy jacked up on ebay.
Only the Ambull one is out of stock with GW itself ( UK webstore at least), temporarily at that (along with the base game). For now, that is, as it's certainly just a matter of time before they all disappear, but I expect GW to at least keep them in stock for a short while after the release of this final expansion.
And... has there ever been a time when Traitor Command wasn't "so expensive"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 06:46:15
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Prometheum5 wrote:So, with Acension out it seems like the majority of expansions are OOP or headed that way. I've been grabbing whatever I can from Amazon and my LGS, but why is Traitor Command so expensive and hard to find now? Even loose models are crazy jacked up on ebay.
As soon as people cannot get hold of them, the big bucks come out. Just look at the cards and the other expired expansions. It is getting harder to get hold of all the expansions including the core set.
I have a feeling they are clearing all their stock ready for the new warhammer quest game due later this year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 06:50:21
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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If you want them, get them. And quick. And start with the most recent one. If it's the last expansion in a product line, it means it'll have the least reprints (if any), meaning it'll be the first to run out. Just ask anyone who's tried to find the Book of Decay for Black Crusade, or Enemies Without for Dark Heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 07:29:43
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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And don’t forget the annual!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 07:43:23
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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RogueSangre
West Sussex, UK
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No Respite has already sold out worldwide I believe. I am surprised it’s been so popular due to the reprinted miniatures but the game content is meant to be good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 07:52:16
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Is there a list of all the expansions? Think I missed a card pack. From memory, there’s....
Black stone Core Game
Dreaded Ambull
Traitor Command
Escalation
No Respite
Zoat one
Ascension
Annual
Advanced Arsenal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 08:20:43
Subject: Re:Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I’m happy I didn’t get into this back when it started. After the original release the expansions took “overpriced” to next levels even for this hobby, culminating in this last one where you get two flimsy drones and some rules for a flippin’ €85. When I saw that price on the GW preorders page I thought for a moment that I was accidentally looking at the Australian website
If there is a new Warhammer Quest later people should realize it will probably go down the same path. Game starts out nice and all but then if you want to keep it going with all the expansions GW will rip your wallet straight from your pocket along with a testicle or two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 10:34:17
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Is there a list of all the expansions? Think I missed a card pack. From memory, there’s....
Black stone Core Game
Dreaded Ambull
Traitor Command
Escalation
No Respite
Zoat one
Ascension
Annual
Advanced Arsenal
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Abominable Intellect ( OOP card pack)
Zoat one is "Deadly Alliance"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 10:37:23
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Patriarch wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Is there a list of all the expansions? Think I missed a card pack. From memory, there’s....
Black stone Core Game
Dreaded Ambull
Traitor Command
Escalation
No Respite
Zoat one
Ascension
Annual
Advanced Arsenal
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Abominable Intellect ( OOP card pack)
Zoat one is "Deadly Alliance"
The third card deck is "Endless Peril". There's also the "Cultists of the Abyss" model pack and the now OOP "Servants of the Abyss" pack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 13:27:39
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Never bothered with the card packs. I think I didn't notice them at the time. Certainly wouldn't consider it now. Sheesh...
Boy was I surprised how thin that book turned out to be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 13:33:05
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Beats carting around a bunch of White Dwarfs Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, pretty sure that’s the card pack I did pick up. Automatically Appended Next Post: Just checked, everything but Abominable Intellect....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 13:51:20
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Using Object Source Lighting
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Never bothered with the card packs. I think I didn't notice them at the time. Certainly wouldn't consider it now. Sheesh...
Yeah, that was a shock when I saw those sort of prices. I saw the card decks, thought "there's no way GW will make content worth $1 per card or whatever. Enough scenarios. pass." Apparently, my estimation of GW's content doesn't factor into their desirability
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 14:07:53
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Aeneades wrote:No Respite has already sold out worldwide I believe. I am surprised it’s been so popular due to the reprinted miniatures but the game content is meant to be good.
Buying No Respite off ebay for $60 didn't feel awesome, but it's better than $75 from Amazon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 14:10:05
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Hoping we might see some for of reprint in time for Chrimbo?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 14:20:47
Subject: Warhammer {{{40k}}} Quest - Blackstone Fortress
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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I'm assuming they are winding down in preparation for the next thing. There's not listings for many of the sets on the GW store sites anymore so seems like they are gonzo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 14:21:45
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Bums. Will try the Loot Group. We’ll be fun to be the beneficiary for once!
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