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Trailer looks good.

Ming-Na Wen has been cast in an undisclosed role probably for season 2 but they might fit her in briefly in season 1 as an introduction to the character.

https://ie.ign.com/articles/2019/08/23/the-mandalorian-ming-na-wen-joins-the-cast-of-the-disney-star-wars-series
   
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It's IG-88. Taika Watiti is playing him.

And it's weird that the UK hasn't been announced for D+. Oz/Kiwiland are getting it in Nov this year.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's IG-88. Taika Watiti is playing him.

And it's weird that the UK hasn't been announced for D+. Oz/Kiwiland are getting it in Nov this year.


You are half right, it is played by Waititi, but it is IG 11.

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 ingtaer wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's IG-88. Taika Watiti is playing him.

And it's weird that the UK hasn't been announced for D+. Oz/Kiwiland are getting it in Nov this year.


You are half right, it is played by Waititi, but it is IG 11.



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Oh, IG-11 hey? Well alright then.

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Yeah, uhm, mildly tragic isn't it. Hope the show doesn't also feature Kssob and Ragned.
As well as the show looking pretty good, it should be good for those who play toys in the SW universe with a couple of new things for X-Wing and Legion (the AT-ST has already been announced as a lego kit).

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I don't see the problem with it being a different droid. Given the IG-88 was an assassin droid, it sort of makes sense that related droids would wind up in similar lines of work.

Even assuming that IG-88's original origin story is gone now, he's certainly not a unique droid, given the junk copies of him that show up in the movies on Tatooine and Cloud City.

 
   
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They show up in various of the cartoons as well. I just find it entertaining that they decided to do an assassin droid, have it identical but then decide its not IG 88. If they didn't want to include it, then why not just make up something new? If they wanted to use that body then why not just make it one of the IG 88s?

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Canonically, there’s only the one IG-88 now, so far as I’m aware?

   
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No idea to be honest, trying to keep track of what is and is not canon nowadays gives me a head ache. Good news if true though as then we never have to hear about the 'droid revolution' ever again.

Though of course they could just write them back in whenever someone decides they want to!

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Indeed. So far, Disney have brought back the better bits of the old EU, from certain ship designs to characters, such as Thrawn.

No reason they can’t or won’t continue in that rough vein.

   
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 ingtaer wrote:
If they wanted to use that body then why not just make it one of the IG 88s?

That's what I think they've done... Just instead of now being four versions of IG-88, IG-whatever will be that type of Droid.


If they have chosen to keep the original origin story, then all four IG-88s are dead by the time of this series.

 
   
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I don't see the problem with it being a different droid.
There isn't one. I just had it in my head for some reason that it was meant to be IG-88, and I thought that was cool.

That it isn't is no issue, and has been said, assassin droids (even IG models) aren't new to SW. A bunch of them showed up in Clone Wars.

In all honesty, having it not be IG-88 is perhaps a blessing in disguise. I'm always wary of things that shrink the universe, with two few new characters, and many old characters always being related to one another or crossing paths before and so on. So this being a new character is perhaps for the best.

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What is the time of this series? Wasn't IG-88's first appearance the bounty hunter line-up with Boba Fett?

That's honestly why I expected this to be IG-88. I also am expecting the Mandalorian to be Boba Fett. Them working together makes sense.

Is this not set before the OT? Is it set after? I honestly haven't paid attention to the press outside this trailer.

I also do not care if it isn't IG-88. Especially if the time frame of the show is after he would have been operating

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It’s set 5 years after RotJ. I don’t expect the Mandalorian to be Boba Fett in fact I kind of hope they never reveal his name or much detail about him or take the helmet off.
   
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Given that Pedro Pascal looks absolutely nothing like Temuera Morrison, it's unlikely that he will turn out to be Boba Fett.

 
   
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 ingtaer wrote:
No idea to be honest, trying to keep track of what is and is not canon nowadays gives me a head ache. Good news if true though as then we never have to hear about the 'droid revolution' ever again.

Though of course they could just write them back in whenever someone decides they want to!


oh aye, could be a back up copy of 88 lurking in a computer somewhere, waiting

and of course free-willed droids are a rather dangerous threat to meatbags, hence them largely being outlawed regardless of whoever is in power at any given period

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 DaveC wrote:
It’s set 5 years after RotJ. I don’t expect the Mandalorian to be Boba Fett in fact I kind of hope they never reveal his name or much detail about him or take the helmet off.
The timing, the setting and even the callback of Boba's OG weapon just SCREAMS nostalgia. I can get behind them doing something new with a pinch of nostalgia, but if the show's protagonist is "Not-Boba-Fett" and his side kick is "Not-IG-88", why not just make them Boba & 88? It just seems off to make them SOOOOOO close to those characters without actually being them.

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Having him be Boba automatically adds a lot of clone wars baggage to a character and I imagine the showrunners want to keep their options open. Given how the characters turned out in Clone Wars I think Filoni prefers to have original characters anyway, it growing the universe instead of shrinking it is a noted side-benefit.

Compare to the Thrawn books and how constrained the character is because they've established him doing stuff in other media.

Another reason IG-11 isn't IG-88 could be that they plan to kill him off.

   
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 Captain Joystick wrote:
Having him be Boba automatically adds a lot of clone wars baggage to a character and I imagine the showrunners want to keep their options open. Given how the characters turned out in Clone Wars I think Filoni prefers to have original characters anyway, it growing the universe instead of shrinking it is a noted side-benefit.
I don't necessarily think him being Boba would bring any Clone Wars "baggage". After all, it's been decades since then and a lot has happened. So while it's connected, Boba can be his own person and tie in more to the OrigTrig, which is clearly what they are going with.

My "gripe", if you can call it that, is that why would they make him SOOOOO similar to Boba Fett if they wanted to do something new. Just do a fresh new character or do Boba Fett. But it clearly looks like they WANT him to be Boba Fett conceptually without being Boba Fett to keep their "options open". It's an obvious "have their cake and eat it too" situation that I feel dilutes the new character.

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I've not paid too much heed to this but wow that's a promising trailer.


Yes, that looks pretty good actually.

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I like the tone and asthetics but, beyond that, it really showed us nothing. It could easily still be complete gak ala TLJ which also had a promising trailer.

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 Galef wrote:
 Captain Joystick wrote:
Having him be Boba automatically adds a lot of clone wars baggage to a character and I imagine the showrunners want to keep their options open. Given how the characters turned out in Clone Wars I think Filoni prefers to have original characters anyway, it growing the universe instead of shrinking it is a noted side-benefit.
I don't necessarily think him being Boba would bring any Clone Wars "baggage". After all, it's been decades since then and a lot has happened. So while it's connected, Boba can be his own person and tie in more to the OrigTrig, which is clearly what they are going with.

My "gripe", if you can call it that, is that why would they make him SOOOOO similar to Boba Fett if they wanted to do something new. Just do a fresh new character or do Boba Fett. But it clearly looks like they WANT him to be Boba Fett conceptually without being Boba Fett to keep their "options open". It's an obvious "have their cake and eat it too" situation that I feel dilutes the new character.

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We don't really know much about the story. but one thing to remember is that Boba Fett was decidedly NOT a Mandalorian. So if this series is going to be less about a bounty hunter and more about the culture and ideals of the madalorians then it will make a bit more sense.
   
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We don't really know much about the story. but one thing to remember is that Boba Fett was decidedly NOT a Mandalorian. So if this series is going to be less about a bounty hunter and more about the culture and ideals of the madalorians then it will make a bit more sense.

For what it's worth, that single line of dialogue has so much baggage both in and out of universe it could mean anything for anyone hearing it.

I don't think it's unfair to presume, from what we've seen, that this guy is probably going to be doing a lot of Boba Fettesque stuff.

   
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 Galef wrote:

My "gripe", if you can call it that, is that why would they make him SOOOOO similar to Boba Fett if they wanted to do something new. Just do a fresh new character or do Boba Fett. But it clearly looks like they WANT him to be Boba Fett conceptually without being Boba Fett to keep their "options open". It's an obvious "have their cake and eat it too" situation that I feel dilutes the new character.

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Boba Fett's main accomplishments were that time he tailed a ship, and that time he got pushed into a Sarlacc pit by a blind guy.

This guy appears to actually be a competent bounty hunter...

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
 Galef wrote:

My "gripe", if you can call it that, is that why would they make him SOOOOO similar to Boba Fett if they wanted to do something new. Just do a fresh new character or do Boba Fett. But it clearly looks like they WANT him to be Boba Fett conceptually without being Boba Fett to keep their "options open". It's an obvious "have their cake and eat it too" situation that I feel dilutes the new character.

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Boba Fett's main accomplishments were that time he tailed a ship, and that time he got pushed into a Sarlacc pit by a blind guy.

This guy appears to actually be a competent bounty hunter...
But that's the point. This could have been an opportunity to add competent adventures to Fett's legacy. Or to just make it about a very different Bounty Hunter that isn't a conceptual copy-cat of Boba-Fett.
But instead, we are getting an (admittedly cool) replica of Boba Fett.

I'm very much looking forward to this show, but I just think they could have edged it one way or the other.

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I'm assuming this guy is a true Mandalorian warrior who had his wife and child killed (maybe that is them in the trailer in the water) and is adrift on his own, ending up bounty hunting to pay the bills as he hunts down the guy who killed them (probably the guy in the black armor). It's an old cliche, but one that continues to work.

If anything, if this guy is a real dyed in the wool Mandalorian warrior that just happens to have taken up bounty hunting on a journey to revenge, Boba Fett is in effect a poor copy-cat of HIM, especially if now all of his EU exploits are non-canon, because without all the crazy lengths the fiction took him to, nothing makes him a Mandalorian except his being a clone of one.

If anything , with everything EU being moved to legends in relation to the current material, wouldn't Fett just be dying in a Sarlaac at this point?

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I feel like this is a lot of extrapolation based on not a lot of info. IMO it doesn't matter how he stacks up against Fett in a trailer, it matters how the show comes together (or doesn't) as a whole.

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I feel like the star wars stories are decent enough. I liked rogue one and didn't hear much bad about solo. I don't think they can salvage the new trilogy. On the plus side one bad star wars story won't effect things like the last Jedi did for the new trilogy because they are one off movies rather than a trilogy. Also ever since the original trilogy Jedi just got Mary sue and star wars stories seem to leave them a healthy distance away from them.

Gotta agree with boba fett being one of the most over-hyped characters of all time though. I honestly think it's the fact he looks cool and has a jetpack. There's not really anything else to like about him in the movies.

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