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I think an encounter with a Jedi is the logical progression for Season 2, and the enduring conflict of how to deal with that enemy.

That would be enough to me get D+, well that, or 1602

Im still waiting on sourcing of that image.

didn't Brie Larson indicate an intreast in doing SW? I vaguely recall some people suggesting she could play ashoka.

BrianDavion wrote:
didn't Brie Larson indicate an intreast in doing SW? I vaguely recall some people suggesting she could play ashoka.

God no. Please no. She was awful in CM.

 Togusa wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
didn't Brie Larson indicate an intreast in doing SW? I vaguely recall some people suggesting she could play ashoka.

God no. Please no. She was awful in CM.

I'll second that, she's just outstandingly bland and couldn't really even hide the 'think of the money' face in Marvel (which is an okay(ish) 3 star jape)

Yikes, she'd definitely wouldn't be able to fill in the shoes of the voice actress that does Ahsokha on the show. I can only see her grimacing when she does any one liners about the Force.

If they do live action Ahsoka I hope Ashley Eckstein actually does the role or at least gets first refusal as she may not want to do the make up but who knows.

Ahsoka would be 45 years old during the events of the Mandalorian (Ashley is 38) and Togruta have a similar lifespan to humans (although force users can live longer) so they need someone that can play an older/wiser Ahsoka role.

 Togusa wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
didn't Brie Larson indicate an intreast in doing SW? I vaguely recall some people suggesting she could play ashoka.

God no. Please no. She was awful in CM.

she was fine in CM, alt-right man babies complaints aside, that said she's all wrong for Ashoka I agree.

She wasn’t given much in CM. Not that I’d want to see her in a Star Wars thing. There’s enough culture war crap already weighing down the franchise.

 DaveC wrote:
If they do live action Ahsoka I hope Ashley Eckstein actually does the role or at least gets first refusal as she may not want to do the make up but who knows.

She appears to be fine with it...

BrianDavion wrote:
she was fine in CM, alt-right man babies complaints aside, that said she's all wrong for Ashoka I agree.

Incel praise aside, it wasn't a good movie and she doesn't have much range. I've seen her other work. Like a dead fish talking.


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 DaveC wrote:
If they do live action Ahsoka I hope Ashley Eckstein actually does the role or at least gets first refusal as she may not want to do the make up but who knows.

Ahsoka would be 45 years old during the events of the Mandalorian (Ashley is 38) and Togruta have a similar lifespan to humans (although force users can live longer) so they need someone that can play an older/wiser Ahsoka role.

Ahsoka was the lady hero in Star Wars we should have gotten in the sequels.

 Bobthehero wrote:

Spoiler:

Ashoka Tano, in that case with a robe/hood, it certainly comes close to her silhouette when she wears that kind of clothing

Specifically its the same staff she's carrying at the end of Rebels.


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Sterling191 wrote:
Im still waiting on sourcing of that image.

Seems wise.

Well to be honest the main implications of that picture being real are that there is a good chance that one of the previous owners of the dark saber could be making an appearance given the epilogue of Rebels.

But another point I have been pondering is do the Mandos just have a really really good PR department rather than actually being the bad ass warriors they say they are?

They as a race/species/nation repeatedly get there arses kicked for a few thousand years.
The 2 most famous Mando bounty hunters are allegedly not Mandos.
Most of the other competent Mandos shown in the universe are outcasts who are also not technically Mandos anymore.
When they do win a battle they still always end up on the losing side long term.

Is baby Yoda mind controlling the current Mando to turn him from ruthless bounty hunter to babysitter?
Is baby Yoda using the force to influence the Mando because he does always seem more competent when the baby Is around?

Tim Drake thinks Batman needs a Robin to keep sharp.

 LunarSol wrote:
Tim Drake thinks Batman needs a Robin to keep sharp.

That is a fair point if you don't actual give a gak about your.own safety than a sidekick to protect provides motivation to survive and succeed beyond a point they would give up or go kamikaze.

SeanDrake wrote:
Well to be honest the main implications of that picture being real are that there is a good chance that one of the previous owners of the dark saber could be making an appearance given the epilogue of Rebels.

But another point I have been pondering is do the Mandos just have a really really good PR department rather than actually being the bad ass warriors they say they are?

They as a race/species/nation repeatedly get there arses kicked for a few thousand years.
The 2 most famous Mando bounty hunters are allegedly not Mandos.
Most of the other competent Mandos shown in the universe are outcasts who are also not technically Mandos anymore.
When they do win a battle they still always end up on the losing side long term.

Is baby Yoda mind controlling the current Mando to turn him from ruthless bounty hunter to babysitter?
Is baby Yoda using the force to influence the Mando because he does always seem more competent when the baby Is around?

Ah, that's just human nature! We love heroic last stands. We don't make movies about overwhelming victories, or easy combat. We like hearing about people who tried harder than anyone could reasonably be expected to, and then lost! It's why the Spartans are so famous, or the Light Brigade. Fighting impossible odds is how heroes are made, and we love the idea of warrior cultures. We just don't do it anymore- our fighters are soldiers, which make for a much more effective military force than warriors. The adopted part makes it open- that could have been me, and it makes the lifetime of devotion the Mandalorian's training represents seem attainable.

Finally got around to watching this.
Was pretty hooked!

The only thing Id say is that it was too short and I wanted more.

I have a couple questions, because my lore-fu is weaksauce and I'm also pretty busy building a buckload of Eldar things:

1.


2.


3.


Thanks in advance for answering.


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 Gitzbitah wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
Well to be honest the main implications of that picture being real are that there is a good chance that one of the previous owners of the dark saber could be making an appearance given the epilogue of Rebels.

But another point I have been pondering is do the Mandos just have a really really good PR department rather than actually being the bad ass warriors they say they are?

They as a race/species/nation repeatedly get there arses kicked for a few thousand years.
The 2 most famous Mando bounty hunters are allegedly not Mandos.
Most of the other competent Mandos shown in the universe are outcasts who are also not technically Mandos anymore.
When they do win a battle they still always end up on the losing side long term.

Is baby Yoda mind controlling the current Mando to turn him from ruthless bounty hunter to babysitter?
Is baby Yoda using the force to influence the Mando because he does always seem more competent when the baby Is around?

Ah, that's just human nature! We love heroic last stands. We don't make movies about overwhelming victories, or easy combat. We like hearing about people who tried harder than anyone could reasonably be expected to, and then lost! It's why the Spartans are so famous, or the Light Brigade. Fighting impossible odds is how heroes are made, and we love the idea of warrior cultures. We just don't do it anymore- our fighters are soldiers, which make for a much more effective military force than warriors. The adopted part makes it open- that could have been me, and it makes the lifetime of devotion the Mandalorian's training represents seem attainable.

The "dying race last warrior" trope is an excellent trope! I wish there was more like it id gobble it all up. So who cares if it doesn't make sense
I assume that these mandos are a sect of a wider network also. And certainly mandos aren't going to be on par with jedis for the badasses of the galaxy trophy.

Each Mando could be Kahless reborn and it wouldn’t make them win against a quadrillion clones and continent-melting turbolasers. Ten Space Marines against the entire US military will result in ten dead Space Marines, but it doesn’t mean they were any less badass for dying.

We can probably dispense with the spoiler tags by this point. I have edited the thread title.

 Argive wrote:
The events seem to be taking place shortly after the rebels victory but before Nu star wars so I assume yoda baby is not THE yoda.. Or is this a different timeline where the empire existed before etc? I assume Yodas race are just naturally gifted with he force or something?

Yeah, definitely not 'the' Yoda, but either a Yoda clone, a baby of the same species, or a cloned baby of the same species. We still don't know which, and nothing is known of the species beyond that there are male and female versions (see Yaddle from Ep1), they have babies, and all three examples of the species shown so far are force users.

Building on question 1. where does this fit in the timeline?

Supposedly about 5 years after RotJ. The Empire is in tatters, and the First Order is yet to be a thing.

What's up with the black light sabre dude?

It's the Darksaber. Not sure of the full story behind it, but was originally made by a Mando. It first showed up in Clone Wars, and then (I think, haven't got that far through yet) Sabine Wren had it in Rebels.

Presumably we'll find out eventually how Moff Gideon winds up with it, but probably related to the purge.

SeanDrake wrote:
But another point I have been pondering is do the Mandos just have a really really good PR department rather than actually being the bad ass warriors they say they are?

They as a race/species/nation repeatedly get there arses kicked for a few thousand years.
The 2 most famous Mando bounty hunters are allegedly not Mandos.
Most of the other competent Mandos shown in the universe are outcasts who are also not technically Mandos anymore.
When they do win a battle they still always end up on the losing side long term.

Might wanna pick up some older EU stuff from prior to the trilogy. Mandos weren't big on fighting someone when it was an assured win. They deliberately fought people that could stomp them into the dirt.

And as far as Boba and Jango not being Mandos, the man that said that also decided Han shouldn't shoot first and sold his IP to someone else. He's got as much say in the current canon as I do.

Ignoring the Disney canon is easier when you're familiar with Lucas' retroactive changes that happened for no damned reason, other than it's George Lucas and he spent decades handing out free passes to write canon in his own universes for a quick buck, and he can't come to terms with it.

EU Mandos(?):

That's pretty much it.

Kinda wish they'd have explained why. Could have been something like Mandos knowing how dangerous the galaxy was, and making it their place to kick the beehive and make sure everyone was ready for a fight at any time.

SeanDrake wrote:
Well to be honest the main implications of that picture being real are that there is a good chance that one of the previous owners of the dark saber could be making an appearance given the epilogue of Rebels.

Also, since this series has shown no compunction about killing characters off, this would be a good way to wrap up Ahsoka's story...

 insaniak wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
Well to be honest the main implications of that picture being real are that there is a good chance that one of the previous owners of the dark saber could be making an appearance given the epilogue of Rebels.

Also, since this series has shown no compunction about killing characters off, this would be a good way to wrap up Ahsoka's story...

Plenty of story left yet rumour is that a follow up to Rebels will be announced "soon" with the focus on Sabine and Ahsoka post ROTJ. At this point only Filoni gets to decide her ultimate fate

 insaniak wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
Well to be honest the main implications of that picture being real are that there is a good chance that one of the previous owners of the dark saber could be making an appearance given the epilogue of Rebels.

Also, since this series has shown no compunction about killing characters off, this would be a good way to wrap up Ahsoka's story...

Unlikely as I don't think we have reached the point timeline wise that is shown in the rebels epilogue with her and Sabine, also from a fluff point of view I have seen nobody in this show capable of killing her. She survived the clone wars, the purge , the civil war and Vader she is also the living avatar of the force whatever that means and tbh that could be an issue with having her in the show she is on a power level so different to the rest of the characters shown so far. Plus she also potentially has Sabine Wren with her which while really really cool could skew the story a lot, unless the mando gets the Dark Saber and wren and tannoy train him to use it which might elevate the character from.mildly competent to interesting.

 insaniak wrote:

What's up with the black light sabre dude?

It's the Darksaber. Not sure of the full story behind it, but was originally made by a Mando. It first showed up in Clone Wars, and then (I think, haven't got that far through yet) Sabine Wren had it in Rebels.

Presumably we'll find out eventually how Moff Gideon winds up with it, but probably related to the purge.

The Darksaber was created by the first Mandalorian Jedi. It gets lost, found but generally gets regarded as a symbol of authority on the planet. In the broadest sense to avoid really spoiling anything, Sabine uses it to rally the Mandalorians in Rebels and leaves it with their leader. It's kind of the Excalibur of the Mandalorian culture. I think its pretty safe to assume that since we're told explicitly that Gideon oversaw the purge, he has it as something of a trophy and proof of dominance over the Mandalorians.

 Argive wrote:
The events seem to be taking place shortly after the rebels victory but before Nu star wars so I assume yoda baby is not THE yoda.. Or is this a different timeline where the empire existed before etc? I assume Yodas race are just naturally gifted with he force or something?

We've only ever seen three examples of his species and all of them have had some force connection. Though in reality this would be way too small a sample size, given that this is Star Wars its entirely possible three makes it a rule.

Building on question 1. where does this fit in the timeline?

5 years after return of the Jedi, so 9 years after New Hope.

The New Republic has existed for around 5 years and the Empire's failed last stand at Jakku happened 4 years ago. Subsequent to that the galactic concordance was signed and both sides have been disarming, with the the Empire presently in the process of splintering off into multiple small warlord factions, clandestinely siphoning off its most fanatical elements into the unknown reaches to lay the groundwork for sequel movies, and the last hardline remnants forming a rump state in the core systems administered over by the New Republic.

In turn the New Republic has disarmed itself too hard too fast and is starting its long slow fizzle.

What's up with the black light sabre dude?

He's a Moff. A sector governor, technically one rank down from what Tarkin was. That said, given the aforementioned splintering, it's also probable he's the de facto leader of this particular splinter group and answers to no one.

Presumably was in charge of the Mandalore sector and led the purges that decimated them. Which would explain why he's able to pay with Beskar and has the darksaber, a treasured Mandalorian artifact.

 Gitzbitah wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
Well to be honest the main implications of that picture being real are that there is a good chance that one of the previous owners of the dark saber could be making an appearance given the epilogue of Rebels.

But another point I have been pondering is do the Mandos just have a really really good PR department rather than actually being the bad ass warriors they say they are?

They as a race/species/nation repeatedly get there arses kicked for a few thousand years.
The 2 most famous Mando bounty hunters are allegedly not Mandos.
Most of the other competent Mandos shown in the universe are outcasts who are also not technically Mandos anymore.
When they do win a battle they still always end up on the losing side long term.

Is baby Yoda mind controlling the current Mando to turn him from ruthless bounty hunter to babysitter?
Is baby Yoda using the force to influence the Mando because he does always seem more competent when the baby Is around?

Ah, that's just human nature! We love heroic last stands. We don't make movies about overwhelming victories,

A heroic last stand is an overwhelming victory. Just from the losing perspective.
Strategically speaking, its called 'you done goofed'