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Btw, about the ending of the Mandalorian, now that Grogu has been officially adopted and now is called Din Grogu, does that mean that Din is actually a family name and his father's first name is actually Djarin or is Din's first name bestowed upon his son as some sort of "junior" title?

Been Nephew herding at sisters so took advantage of the big telly to have a Star Wars binge

Book of Bob was a bit muddled suspect its a jury rigged take on the rumoured movie, the Mando episodes was fine but beige curtains otherwise

Mando S3, again I think the Mando story was maybe 4-5 episodes at best and all the Bo-Selector bits are a trailer for Katee getting a show of her own, mostly ok but the MCU CGI climax was a tad template

Bad Batch S!, interesting and I'll give season 2 a run at some point

Andor, yep still not meshing with this one, its fine and her from Good Omens is hella purty

Also, the Nephew's Beagle took rare notice of Grogo bit odd as she barely reacts to telly at all

On the Mandalorian, it almost feels like they squished two seasons together into one; S3 could/should have been the Navarro + Coruscant storylines, setting up the Imperial remnants and the Mandolorian colony and then S4 could have been and expanded version of retaking Mandalore and defeating Moff Gideon.

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Been Nephew herding at sisters so took advantage of the big telly to have a Star Wars binge

Book of Bob was a bit muddled suspect its a jury rigged take on the rumoured movie, the Mando episodes was fine but beige curtains otherwise

Mando S3, again I think the Mando story was maybe 4-5 episodes at best and all the Bo-Selector bits are a trailer for Katee getting a show of her own, mostly ok but the MCU CGI climax was a tad template

Bad Batch S!, interesting and I'll give season 2 a run at some point

Andor, yep still not meshing with this one, its fine and her from Good Omens is hella purty

Also, the Nephew's Beagle took rare notice of Grogo bit odd as she barely reacts to telly at all

Couple of things.

1. No mentioning doggies without sharing photo of doggy. Probably.

2. Don’t bother with Bad Batch S2. It’s really not great. Predominantly filler. At least, don’t bother with the whole of the thing. Select episode are excellent. The rest are utter, utter bobbins of no consequence.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Has to be more to it.

Like the fact that D+ is losing money in general, or the "issues" with the digital effects studios (being overworked and underpaid).

epronovost wrote:
Btw, about the ending of the Mandalorian, now that Grogu has been officially adopted and now is called Din Grogu, does that mean that Din is actually a family name and his father's first name is actually Djarin or is Din's first name bestowed upon his son as some sort of "junior" title?

It mean he’s Bajoran.

It's weird that it's just Din Djarin though. Everyone else has normal names.

Aash wrote:
Apparently some delays to the filming of Andor season 2:
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/star-wars-filming-for-second-tv-series-andor-cancelled-amid-risk-of-landslips-and-rockfalls-12861694

Nooo, its the only Star Wars I have an unvarnished liking for!

Yeah, but it’s a pretty acceptable reason for a filming delay. Much better than hearing about some kind of executive meddling or issues with an actor’s behavior.

 Gert wrote:
It's weird that it's just Din Djarin though. Everyone else has normal names.

I do have a general sense of relief when watching the expanse that the names are human ones...

epronovost wrote:
Btw, about the ending of the Mandalorian, now that Grogu has been officially adopted and now is called Din Grogu, does that mean that Din is actually a family name and his father's first name is actually Djarin or is Din's first name bestowed upon his son as some sort of "junior" title?

This drives me slightly nuts, particularly since we've got lots of important family names among the Mandalorians. It's weird, I'm sure someone will have a lengthy explanation for it, but ultimately I'll just accept that Din Grogu rolls off the tongue better than Grogu Djarin.

Yeah it didn't make much sense to me either. Maybe its not a last name thing. Maybe they put Dinn's first name in front of his name to indicate that Grogu is Dinn's apprentice?

Dinn Grogu = Grogu, Apprentice of Dinn Djarin?

Din wasn't born a Mandalorian right? He was adopted by them after they rescued him from the battle droids as a kid, so i just read it that whatever culture he was actually born into had their firstname/lastnames round the other way, and he kept his original naming even after being rescued/adopted by the Mandalaorians. Makes sense in my head.
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 Lance845 wrote:
Yeah it didn't make much sense to me either. Maybe its not a last name thing. Maybe they put Dinn's first name in front of his name to indicate that Grogu is Dinn's apprentice?

Dinn Grogu = Grogu, Apprentice of Dinn Djarin?

This...actually makes a lot of sense.

It does make sense.

He won’t become Grogu until he’s qualified, at which point should he take a foundling on, it would become Grogu Madeupname.

I thought Grogu became Din Grogu as a consequence of his adoption, not his apprenticeship. Or am I misremembering?

But yeah, it's an odd thing to throw in three seasons into the show.

 Nicky J wrote:
Din wasn't born a Mandalorian right? He was adopted by them after they rescued him from the battle droids as a kid, so i just read it that whatever culture he was actually born into had their firstname/lastnames round the other way, and he kept his original naming even after being rescued/adopted by the Mandalaorians. Makes sense in my head.
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This is the most likely explanation; MDG mentioned Star Trek's Bajorans earlier but even here on our planet there are places where people's names are the other way around (Korea, for one). No reason why Din Djarin would change his name just because he became a foundling, at least so far as we know.

Family names come first in Japanese, and given that Japanese cinema had a huge influence on Star Wars it's not surprising it would crop up somewhere, though it's confusing in this case as other Mandalorians don't follow that convention.

Bo-Katan's family name comes after her personal, as do the names of all the other Mandalorians far as I know.

Din is weird and confusing in that his family name comes first unless that's just some holdover from his pre-Mandalorian life.

At risk of double post;

This is both the first new joke in Pitch Meeting in years, and a perfect incapsulation of why I didn't enjoy Mando S3:

 LordofHats wrote:
At risk of double post;

This is both the first new joke in Pitch Meeting in years, and a perfect incapsulation of why I didn't enjoy Mando S3:

Yeah, definitely spot on for the video, it's unfortunate they couldn't stick to the premise of a spaghetti western bounty hunter story and had to spiral off into Star Wars street the way it did.

That was a quite entertaining effort

As is so often the case, at least we get a good Pitch Meeting out of a dodgy thing.

Tickled me more than the season did, that's for sure. Highlighting the absurdity of the overly literal dialogue was perfect.

The intern skit has the same problem of most things that repeat something disappointing to make a point about why it doesn't work in that I still have to sit through an awkward side plot.

The "that's this show" moment was gold.

I think what sums up Mando 3 is that its clear that a lot of people involved weren't really on board anymore. There's definitely people giving it their all, but everything has a sense of obligation behind it.

 LunarSol wrote:
The intern skit has the same problem of most things that repeat something disappointing to make a point about why it doesn't work in that I still have to sit through an awkward side plot.

The "that's this show" moment was gold.

I think what sums up Mando 3 is that its clear that a lot of people involved weren't really on board anymore. There's definitely people giving it their all, but everything has a sense of obligation behind it.

The fact that Pedro wasn't even there for parts of it says a lot. Not just the final scene, but whenever there was a conflict with Last of Us filming, he was over there and they just had someone else in the suit and dubbed lines in later.

Can't really blame the guy for that either, last of us was orders of magnitude better than anything on Mando

 creeping-deth87 wrote:
Can't really blame the guy for that either, last of us was orders of magnitude better than anything on Mando

I entirely disagree.

Whilst Last of Us is by no means crap, and my criticism isn’t linked to Mr Pascal or Ms Ramsay? It’s not a patch on The Walking Dead’s middling season. To much wander and waffle, which given it kicked off with Good Stuff, and a Safe Zone? Made me wonder “erm…..why do you need the Safe Zone?”. Because the genuinely dicey “oh no my pants, I hope the not-zombies don’t have an acute sense of smell” were incredibly few and far between.

Indeed the entire premise of needing Safe Zones is largely undermined by a lot of what happens. Not for Ellie, who grew up in one and can’t reasonably be expected to know better. But Joel? He’s been out there many, many times and survived.

Mando S3, whist imperfect, was for me, a far more compelling watch that Last of Us. And it wasn’t the I paid £22 to specifically see.

Voss wrote:
The fact that Pedro wasn't even there for parts of it says a lot. Not just the final scene, but whenever there was a conflict with Last of Us filming, he was over there and they just had someone else in the suit and dubbed lines in later.

Isn't that what they did in previous season too? With Pedro Pascal not being on stage on many occasion with a body double doing the physical presence and him doing the line as a voice actor; basically the same deal than with Darth Vader and James Earl Johns?

epronovost wrote:

Voss wrote:
The fact that Pedro wasn't even there for parts of it says a lot. Not just the final scene, but whenever there was a conflict with Last of Us filming, he was over there and they just had someone else in the suit and dubbed lines in later.

Isn't that what they did in previous season too? With Pedro Pascal not being on stage on many occasion with a body double doing the physical presence and him doing the line as a voice actor; basically the same deal than with Darth Vader and James Earl Johns?

Ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhuh! Don’t poke factually accurate holes!

 LunarSol wrote:
The intern skit has the same problem of most things that repeat something disappointing to make a point about why it doesn't work in that I still have to sit through an awkward side plot.

It absolutely dragged out, but honestly, I don't think it would be as effective in making the point if it didn't.

A tangent isn't a problem if it doesn't overstay its welcome.

 Geifer wrote:
As is so often the case, at least we get a good Pitch Meeting out of a dodgy thing.

The weirdest thing about it is that the entire concept basically has 4-5 jokes and just recycles them constantly, but by pinning the tail to the donkey every time the jokes remain fairly entertaining, even enhanced by your knowledge that the joke is coming.

It's almost like doing the same thing over and over again can work as long as you're just just phoning it in and have a strong understanding of basic narrative principles.