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 AduroT wrote:

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I didn’t like that they kicked off the Plaza with a rooftop sniper. Given they shoot glowing lasers you’d think Someone would have noticed that. Should have been just a dude in the crowd. Honestly I was hoping the locals would have Actually been baited into taking the first shot.

Apropros Nothing?

I’ve now very, very nearly collected a complete set of Star Wars figures (modern) so that when I buy my home, I’ll have a display or vignette if you will, of Jabba’s Palace and its denizens.

Main issue right now is his Gambling Droid has only ever been released via the Build A Droid pack-in promotion. Not only are the relevant packs Really Bloody Expensive, but characters I’m not interested in.

Well seen the last of Andor. Different pacing than before and not up to the previous high point.

Personal bugbear was the space around coresant not having ships/star destroyers/ties/etc. in it. Budget perhaps?

Perfection.

Absolute perfection.

It’s Star War, Jim. But not as we know it. And the acting has been nothing short of superb throughout.

Well. I say throughout, last episode on now.


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Oh, and spoiler free? Stick around for the end credits. There’s a superb musical transition in there!

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Well seen the last of Andor. Different pacing than before and not up to the previous high point.

Personal bugbear was the space around coresant not having ships/star destroyers/ties/etc. in it. Budget perhaps?

It's not technically wartime, and Coruscant is the capital. If there were fleets of Star Destroyers in orbit, it would be alarming.

Also, how many thousands (millions??) of ships must come and go from Coruscant every day? They can’t stop and inspect everything.

I'm satisfied with how Andor turned out. Both season 2 and as a whole, including Rogue One as the finale.

Next stop: A show like this set between Yavin and Endor, please.

 Gert wrote:

The_Real_Chris wrote:
Well seen the last of Andor. Different pacing than before and not up to the previous high point.

Personal bugbear was the space around coresant not having ships/star destroyers/ties/etc. in it. Budget perhaps?

It's not technically wartime, and Coruscant is the capital. If there were fleets of Star Destroyers in orbit, it would be alarming.

Isn't empty space over Coruscant simply realistic? Unless you have reason to get close to another ship, you wouldn't be able to see anything because other ships are small and too far away to see, even if there are a ton of them in orbit at any given time.

It goes a bit against the usual way Star Wars fills visible space with interesting things, but that seems fitting for a show that goes a bit against the way Star Wars usually does things.

Maybe it is the 'star wars way', but I would want a bunch of interdictors ensuring no one could drop out of hyperspace in bombardment range, and I would want traffic control around the points where ships typically drop in.

Depends how you look at it.

This is all pre-dissolution of the senate “we are secure, the rebels are few and far between” Empire.

Scariff is the first engagement if any real note, where the Rebels turned up with a sizeable and organised fleet.

From there straight into A New Hope, senate is shortly dissolved after the Death Star is confirmed to be in working order (twice).

And it’s the subsequent near immediate loss of the Death Star that really effs things up, and gets a lot of people off the fence and the sidelines - hence the far larger and more impressive fleet seen over Endor. The mask is off, and so are the gloves.

It would be just like Palpi to keep the skies over Coruscant clear for appearances but have a flotilla on standby to jump in the moment somebody gets funny ideas about attacking the planet.

Indeed. Plus who knows how many wings of TIE craft held planetside. The absolute swarm vomited out over Scarif wouldn’t have looked like much by comparison I’d wager.

And to swerve into minor spoilers

 Geifer wrote:
It would be just like Palpi to keep the skies over Coruscant clear for appearances but have a flotilla on standby to jump in the moment somebody gets funny ideas about attacking the planet.

Yep. It looks stronger to have no visible security presence there as it implies there is absolutely no need for it, especially as the battle of coruscant would still be in quite recent memory. "Under the republic, we had a pitched battle above our planet. Under the Empire, the sky is completely clear"

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Caught up last night and Throughly enjoyed all of it. I found the first few episodes ran a bit slow, but it really excelled overall.

Likely to be watching Rogue One again very soon. Had to watch the original trailer again to catch that amazing minor key imperial march

 Geifer wrote:
I'm satisfied with how Andor turned out. Both season 2 and as a whole, including Rogue One as the finale.

Next stop: A show like this set between Yavin and Endor, please.

I rewatched Rogue One part way through this season, not realising how directly the end would feed in*. Future rewatches are going to have to be all three in order, as I think they’ll fit together incredibly well. Which is impressive given the time between their filming. I found it interesting on some of the YouTube analyses that a lot of people in the comments seem to be calling this the Andor Trilogy, which I think feels valid.

I had some concerns about the compressed storylines for season two, but it worked out really well. The last two blocks I ended up just watching in a single session, as if they were a film. Now that it’s all out, it would be really neat if Disney did supercuts of the four blocks, because I think that would work. I also think they’ve hit on a neat structure that could be used for other shows.

My first thought was something around gathering the intelligence on Death Star 2, but that would probably feel too samey to Andor and risks being a pale imitation. But something about the development of the rebellion from a rag-tag bunch of individuals into a full military force capable of taking on the Empire could be interesting. In feel, think something like films about the Battle of Britain. First thought could be to use Wedge as the lead character?

*

I think as long as future shows are given to people other than Dave Filoni and Jon Faverou it'll be good.

They're fine but spreading out net is only a good thing.

Some further genuine praise for Andor as a whole.

New planets! New characters! Not a Skywalker or Lightsaber in sight! Not even a Vader or Palpatine cameo! New Ship Designs.

That alone really added to the whole of the thing.

I am still working though Andor season 1, but it is my first Star Wars since the The Last Jedi.

It makes me want to bust out my old WEG d6 Star Wars and get a campaign going!

If all of Andor had been paced like Andor season 2 is paced, I'd have had no complaints about season 1. Really. All they had to do was stop wasting whole episodes on casts of characters whose names we're never going to remember because they just plain don't matter and *snap* my whole complaint with S1 just disappears.

I know I'm like the only person on the planet who had that complaint, but still. If they'd paced the whole series like this they could have had their 5 seasons and I'd have never whined.

 LordofHats wrote:
If all of Andor had been paced like Andor season 2 is paced, I'd have had no complaints about season 1. Really. All they had to do was stop wasting whole episodes on casts of characters whose names we're never going to remember because they just plain don't matter and *snap* my whole complaint with S1 just disappears.

I know I'm like the only person on the planet who had that complaint, but still. If they'd paced the whole series like this they could have had their 5 seasons and I'd have never whined.

Well, in that case the pacing would have been awful or they simply would have run out of story. That's why its so quickly paced. Season 1 was the original amount of "story per season" and while great, veers closer to the problems with other D+ shows that stretch a film into a season of television.

Now wondering where we go next with Star Wars.

Early Rebellion era feels mined out, at least for now. Bad Batch, Rebels, Andor, Rogue One, even Solo to a lesser degree fleshed it out all nice like. Rebels, Andor and Rogue One in particular doing some spectacular heavy lifting.


We know we’re getting further adventures in the New Republic era of course, with the promise Mando, Ahsoka and Skellington Crew will all tie in before the end.

High Republic has stumbled. Much as I enjoyed The Acolyte, it wasn’t an auspicious start. I do wonder how the books and comics are doing for that though.

Then of course we’re told we’re getting some post First Order stuff too. A Reycentric movie, and a Rogue Squadron Movie (I think that’s post First Order, but I might be thinking of that other one that was announced and then canned).

I really, really hope they take the right lessons from Skellington and Andor of course. Don’t just give us more Star Wars. Give us Star Wars with sprinkles and a different sauce.

Maul series coming out with it being set around the Shadow Collective/Crimson Dawn and series 3 of Visions and its spin off have been announced.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Some further genuine praise for Andor as a whole.

New planets! New characters! Not a Skywalker or Lightsaber in sight! Not even a Vader or Palpatine cameo! New Ship Designs.

That alone really added to the whole of the thing.

I had a theory that all new Star Wars featured a TIE fighter (usually a new design) and at least one scene with a lightsabre. Andor avoided the laser swords...

 LordofHats wrote:
If all of Andor had been paced like Andor season 2 is paced, I'd have had no complaints about season 1. Really. All they had to do was stop wasting whole episodes on casts of characters whose names we're never going to remember because they just plain don't matter and *snap* my whole complaint with S1 just disappears.

I know I'm like the only person on the planet who had that complaint, but still. If they'd paced the whole series like this they could have had their 5 seasons and I'd have never whined.

The first three episodes I watched at the weekend - free episodes on the Star Wars Youtube channel - and they didn't do a good job of selling the show, so on this I'm going to have to agree.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Now wondering where we go next with Star Wars.

The reintroduction of Mara Jade, Talon Karrde and Joruus C'Baoth is long overdue. We definitely want to see evil Obiwan Kenobi, and Mara and Talon are firmly in the cool kids club of smugglers. Lets face it, as kids we either wanted to be Luke Skywalker or Han Solo.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Now wondering where we go next with Star Wars.

The reintroduction of Mara Jade, Talon Karrde and Joruus C'Baoth is long overdue. We definitely want to see evil Obiwan Kenobi, and Mara and Talon are firmly in the cool kids club of smugglers. Lets face it, as kids we either wanted to be Luke Skywalker or Han Solo.

A surprising number of folks apparently wanted to be the Imperials.

I suppose the bad guys have more fun. I must say that Tie-Fighter is my favourite Star Wars game of all time...

 Easy E wrote:
A surprising number of folks apparently wanted to be the Imperials.

Folks don't want to associate with the faction where, quite in spite of Stormtrooper marksmanship, every mission is a suicide mission and volunteering is mandatory? I'm shocked*.





* I'm not shocked.

Something I do want to see explored is post Endor, pre TFA Not New Republic stuff.

See, Endor essentially saw the Separatists….kinda win, in the long run. Old Republic gone, Empire crumbled. And the New Republic was an optional membership arrangement.

Oh they’d try to persuade you to sign up, sure. But with words and favours.

But what of those that decided it wasn’t for them? Did we see consortiums appear? Smaller scaled allied worlds? How were their relations with the New Republic?

TFA showed that, at least so far as the First Order were concerned, The New Republic fleet was a significant concern, hence blatting it. How much such a seemingly powerful Navy be interpreted by non-member worlds?

There’s a ton of possibility and permutations there.

Having a multi year live action imperial army unit that has to navigate the Empire becoming more and more obvious would be great. Overtime they have to deal with atrocities they have a part in, people die in attacks by rebels/insurgents hardening their views, fanatics become stormtroopers, one or more high profile defections to the rebels. A grunts view of fascism, similar to many German WW2 stories or really any soldiers story from a dirty war.