What are the strongest codexes of 8th edition?

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**deviantduck**

Xenomancers wrote:
These threads would do fine if everyone wasn't so heavily biased.

It's hard to be biased when your primary faction isn't even ever considered an option on these polls even though they're a decent upper mid-tier army.

**Xenomancers**

deviantduck wrote:
Xenomancers wrote:
These threads would do fine if everyone wasn't so heavily biased.
It's hard to be biased when your primary faction isn't even ever considered an option on these polls even though they're a decent upper mid-tier army.

What army is missing? Inquisition?

**Carnikang**

Gsc and Sisters, though both are not Codex armies yet. Which means they SHOULD be absent from the list at this moment.

**Xenomancers**

Carnikang wrote:
Gsc and Sisters, though both are not Codex armies yet. Which means they SHOULD be absent from the list at this moment.

It seems just the codex armies are listed so...I'm in total agreement with you.

**SHUPPET**

Ice_can wrote:
A.T. wrote:
SHUPPET wrote:
...infact I've seen the Shaman do well at tournament before too.
Ran into a player unfamiliar with them (and unlucky with dispels) and let a full enlightened squad get buffed in charge range of Mortarion.
I rolled poorly and Morty walked away with a couple of wounds left. Have to say I was torn between using the double attack stratagem to finish him off or the escort princes who were getting mauled by a warptiming tzaangor blob.

8e Tsons have always struck me as the kind of codex that takes soup for extra firepower (like DE taking farseers) rather than as a crutch.

I would say the biggest issue with Tsons codex is it's best build have 0 Tsons it's codex AoS models but it does have some power in it just not in Tsons units.

thats exactly what I said the whine was earlier. But when they are flipping that into "dex only has three playable units" it's straight downplay. Oh no your top tier dex didnt get to play its iconic unit at the highest level of play. welcome to Tau, Tyranid every past edition, every power armor army, etc, except without the top tier part.

**Karol**

SHUPPET wrote:

thats exactly what I said the whine was earlier. But when they are flipping that into "dex only has three playable units" it's straight downplay. Oh no your top tier dex didnt get to play its iconic unit at the highest level of play. welcome to Tau, Tyranid every past edition, every power armor army, etc, except without the top tier part.

Am not sure if I understand downplay the right way. But does the 1ksons have any other good unit other then ahriman, tzangors and magnus/DP ?

**Kaiyanwang**

SHUPPET wrote:

thats exactly what I said the whine was earlier. But when they are flipping that into "dex only has three playable units" it's straight downplay. Oh no your top tier dex didnt get to play its iconic unit at the highest level of play. welcome to Tau, Tyranid every past edition, every power armor army, etc, except without the top tier part.

Maybe it's not appropriate to the context, but it's still a legitimate criticism say "Now, eventually you might have Thousand Sons on your, on your Thousand Sons army, right?"

**Cephalobeard**

Other armies having worse things does not mean most armies don't have bad things.

**SHUPPET**

Karol wrote:
SHUPPET wrote:

thats exactly what I said the whine was earlier. But when they are flipping that into "dex only has three playable units" it's straight downplay. Oh no your top tier dex didnt get to play its iconic unit at the highest level of play. welcome to Tau, Tyranid every past edition, every power armor army, etc, except without the top tier part.

Am not sure if I understand downplay the right way. But does the 1ksons have any other good unit other then ahriman, tzangors and magnus/DP ?

yes back a page

Kaiyanwang wrote:
SHUPPET wrote:

thats exactly what I said the whine was earlier. But when they are flipping that into "dex only has three playable units" it's straight downplay. Oh no your top tier dex didnt get to play its iconic unit at the highest level of play. welcome to Tau, Tyranid every past edition, every power armor army, etc, except without the top tier part.

Maybe it's not appropriate to the context, but it's still a legitimate criticism say "Now, eventually you might have Thousand Sons on your, on your Thousand Sons army, right?"

it is, but the topic was which armies are strongest, not which armies have the most thematic strong units

Cephalobeard wrote:Other armies having worse things does not mean most armies don't have bad things.

Did anyone say that?

**Nature's Minister**

Thousand sons are certainly better than some of the armies they're ranked with. Three good units is a bit of hyperbole.

**Spectral Ceramite**

Seems a better pole would be what are the strongest non character units (with no support).

**JNAProductions**

Except support is part of the game.

Unsupported? My Plaguebearers suck.

With support? They rock.

**Marin**

Neophyte2012 wrote:
Xenomancers wrote:
Marin wrote:
People clearly don`t make difference between Craftworld`s codex and Ynnari. Excluding Ynnari and CW look underpowered.
Hard to respond to this without ignoring rule #1.

Mono CWE are VERY good.

Altiotoc and Ulthwe are both viable.

Top units-
Shinning spears (arguable the best unit in the entire game)
Farseers of multiple varieties (arguably the best psykers in the entire game)
Spirit seers (arguably the best supporting spells in the game)

Fire Prisms (linked fire stratagem is straight god mode)
Wave Serpants (Arguably the best vehicle in the entire game) (protecting your glass cannon infantry)
Crimson hunter Exarchs/ Hemlocks (arguably the best flyers in the game)
Dark Reapers (Arguably the best long range infantry in the game - even after being nerfed)

Stratagems (top teir - Deep strike practically any unit, on demand -1 to hit on almost any unit, hosts of other useful stratagems such as 4++ for gardians, +1 to hit for ulthwe gardians)

I really can't take anyone seriously that calls CWE underpowered.

They call CWE underpowered because maybe they are comparing it to Dark Eldar. lol.

There was mono army tournament in October. Its surprise(not) that AM won index orc were 2 and GK finished 4 place.