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If we get that "give a Trait to not your Warlord" thing, then including a Snakebite Spearhead with a KFF Mek (or MA Mek with KFF, if you want more durability) and giving him the Surly as a Squiggoth trait might be viable for bringing Kanz along.

 flandarz wrote:
If we get that "give a Trait to not your Warlord" thing, then including a Snakebite Spearhead with a KFF Mek (or MA Mek with KFF, if you want more durability) and giving him the Surly as a Squiggoth trait might be viable for bringing Kanz along.

It would be pretty sick if we got that. We could make a bike Bad Moons boss with a 4+ invul with Da Killa Klaw who doesn't give up a warlord VP.

Extra WT would be sweet but if we only get one iteration of it I'd rather have the one where you put 2 WTs on your warlord rather than spreading them out. That's probably not as good as having a "warlord" who doesn't give up slay the warlord/kingslayer but super buffed characters is exactly what I want out of Orks.

If we get a second WT strat surely I autotake a killa klaw and Brutal but Kunning bikerboss and a SSAG and opportunist big mek?

Barring any of the new PA stuff being really good? (I assume we get a WT per clan)

But yeah, most likely. Which is really good but maybe not all that fun IMO, it's just the same tactic we've been using but slightly better. It doesn't really change how we're going to play the army I think..

Yeah. Can't see it upturning tactics really. Unless Ghaz is transformative.

Sounds like salty rumors saying we are getting a wolf vs ork box set with ghaz and mega nobs vs Ragnar and intercessors....

Which means ghaz and Ragnar will be boxset locked for 6 months like jain zar and drahzar were.

And considering the lore today of Ragnar strike team going to attack ghaz and his inner circle it gives the impression this is an elite force vs elite force story....

Salty rumors and all but we’ve been hearing about this suppose boxset rumor for a bit.

It doesn't sound all that crazy but the rumours are literally based on some dude posting that info in a facebook post, and he seems to not be some known person in regards to leaks prior to this.

Could be right, could be wrong. Hopefully we actually get a full reveal on monday and it's not yet another tease

I know a SW player locally that might split the box with me I guess... still disappointing if that's the case though. I think he wanted Ghaz.

If the box is going to contain Ghaz and Mega Nobz I hope there is a stratagem that turns them into Bully Boyz which acts as a buff for MANZ

I've already let it be known in my local area that I will be buying this box and if there are any looking to trade wolves for orks, hit me up!

PiñaColada wrote:
It doesn't sound all that crazy but the rumours are literally based on some dude posting that info in a facebook post, and he seems to not be some known person in regards to leaks prior to this.

Could be right, could be wrong. Hopefully we actually get a full reveal on monday and it's not yet another tease

as far as I recall the ghaz vs space wolves box set rumors was months ago too Before our codex dropped. This was before we even Knew about PA ghaz vs space wolves. Could be coincidence we shall find out soon.

nfe wrote:
If we get a second WT strat surely I autotake a killa klaw and Brutal but Kunning bikerboss and a SSAG and opportunist big mek?

I’d probably do Might is right. 5th attack base would be huge.

You’re already hitting on 2s.

The damage might be worth it if you’re really worried about assault centurions I guess.

theres been orks vs space wolves rumors for over a year. I dont see why they would put out a box for this particular PA when the others didnt get one (minus the first one)

Also even if they gave us the multi-warlord trait i doubt i'd ever use it (unless i can do it on Ghaz). None of our HQs would really benefit from that without having the same issue as before, once they see melee they just go splat.
Technically giving the SSAG opportunistic would be nice but its range makes that kinda pointless. Generally any character that could get that close is going to get a LOT closer and then charge anyway.

Will be pretty salty if the marines get a new unit and we just get a copy of the meganobz sprue. xP

cody.d. wrote:
Will be pretty salty if the marines get a new unit and we just get a copy of the meganobz sprue. xP

Agreed. That'll be some classic GW bs.

tulun wrote:

nfe wrote:
If we get a second WT strat surely I autotake a killa klaw and Brutal but Kunning bikerboss and a SSAG and opportunist big mek?

I’d probably do Might is right. 5th attack base would be huge.

You’re already hitting on 2s.

The damage might be worth it if you’re really worried about assault centurions I guess.

Doesn't the maths for BtK work out better against pretty much everything except infantry that will bog down a bikerboss however many attacks he has?

Plus, you can always chuck Fosts of Gork on him, anyway?

1) It's pretty likely that the rumored "new unit" is just wulfen, the match the description of the leaker
2) If it is a new unit, the secondary market will be flooded with MANz sprues because all the marine players will be buying the box. I'm for sure not going to be salty about finally getting 10 MANz +2 MA big meks (+ crapton of conversion bits) for cheap.

Considering the pricepoint of Blood of the Phoenix it's quite possible the market won't be flooded with anything from this box. If it's truly Ghaz&Makari +MANZ vs PriRagnar & Wulfen then I'm not sure how well it'll sell.

I'm sure all new characters will be really cool but it might be too soon for GW to course correct from the heinous BotP price and from what I've heard those things didn't sell nearly as well as expected. (I guess it also depends on amount of MANZ and Wulfen in the box)

Haha yeah if the box rumour is true I'm most excited about idea of getting those MAN sprues for cheap Been hoping for 10 MAN unit for long time but price of models has kept me from it.

 Jidmah wrote:
1) It's pretty likely that the rumored "new unit" is just wulfen, the match the description of the leaker
2) If it is a new unit, the secondary market will be flooded with MANz sprues because all the marine players will be buying the box. I'm for sure not going to be salty about finally getting 10 MANz +2 MA big meks (+ crapton of conversion bits) for cheap.

I wouldn't. Literally just putting on the finishing touches of a 9 man unit!

cody.d. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
1) It's pretty likely that the rumored "new unit" is just wulfen, the match the description of the leaker
2) If it is a new unit, the secondary market will be flooded with MANz sprues because all the marine players will be buying the box. I'm for sure not going to be salty about finally getting 10 MANz +2 MA big meks (+ crapton of conversion bits) for cheap.

I wouldn't. Literally just putting on the finishing touches of a 9 man unit!

I'm just finishing off a 10 man one, too.

So, you're saying you have enough orks? *spins up deffstrom mega-shoota*

Nope! I'll totally take another bunch of MANz if they're cheap.

This is such a weird argument. Nobody would be disappointed for cheap(er) MANZ flooding the market. But if they updated the sculpt the market would be flooded with updated MANZ instead. I don’t know about you guys, but I like new models, as lovely as current MANZ are.

There is always something better than what you have.
Getting a box with relatively new MANz inside is still way better then getting yet another box with warbikers, kanz or deff dreads.

Getting a new Thrakka (and Makari!) already is way more than what most would have expected at the beginning of the year.
Now let's hope someone gave the book as much love as they did for other xenos factions, guard or the chaos legions.

Expecting updated MAN'z AND Ghaz...that's greedy. Orks are orks and not marines.

Besides there's about half a dozen kits minimum I would rather see redone than MAN's.

I think AAE didn't mean updated MANz, but rather a new/updated unit instead of MANz.

I'm still upset that when Ghaz was mentioned in the deathwatch codex running around with a bunch of skarboys that we didn't really get that unit.

My dream is still a skarboys/'ardboys kit (which since he's cleary using those boyz should make sense in a kit such as this). Just give them either part of a nob statline (either S5 or 4+ armor) and give us more elite troops.

You can have skarboyz from a stratagem though?

S5 boyz aren't terrible either from my experience, it's just that the whole "running boyz up the board"-thing doesn't work, which kind of throws a wrench into the whole goff idea.