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Awesome model, it's friggin huge and orky! But yeah that last pic looks a lot like a boxed set.

This is truly a work of art

Gruxz wrote:
Awesome model, it's friggin huge and orky! But yeah that last pic looks a lot like a boxed set.

Yup!!!
Ragnar and 10 intercessors
Vs
Ghazskull and 5 nobs and 3 meganobs (plus Makari)

Pretty hopeful about ghazs 2 new weapons
Morks roar
And
Gorks klaw
Those should be at least better then his prior options...
But he’s going to be an expensive pointcost model...

Freaking awesome!

Is that a 80mm base? Looks like he is at least 10cm tall then.
And i love how close they stayed to the original model, many overlapping details.

The real question is: is he targetable? Definitely doesn't look like he can fit in transports. lol.

So whats everyones best guess on price? I have my money saved for sure, but I'm wondering if it will be a dent or wipe out the whole lot.

Let's face it, it's going to look ridiculous if Ghazzy is 9 wounds with that stature. So we're back to the speculation I brought up a couple of weeks ago, how can they make a 10+ wounds Ghaz work?

It'll be interesting to see how they handle it for sure

tulun wrote:
Well he's a massive bloke.

Also, he had his head ripped off and LIVED?

Yeah, it was already canon that an orks' head can survive for a couple hours without a body, and that transplants for orks are ludicrously easy.

PiñaColada wrote:
Let's face it, it's going to look ridiculous if Ghazzy is 9 wounds with that stature. So we're back to the speculation I brought up a couple of weeks ago, how can they make a 10+ wounds Ghaz work?

It'll be interesting to see how they handle it for sure

Unless he always throws a 2+ save, has a 3+ invul or something, it won't work. He isn't going to be a leviathan dread lol.

He will be removed if an opponent wants him too.

So he better be 9 sadly, or somehow just not targetable even though he's above 10.

Again, yes, he'll be better at 9 wounds. But I really don't think he should be (due to size) or that GW will care enough about having him be competitive tier and keeping him there. I'll be shocked if he's at 9 wounds.

So T7 16W 2+/4++ and -1 damage and then a 5+FnP is what I'm hoping for.

In rgards to the boxset price, I assume that it's going to be the same as Blood of the Phoenix (sadly) so like 230 US dollars I think?

Given that he had his head ripped off and lived, they probably gave him the Girlyman treatment of "i didnt die yet" and comes back with extra wounds.

Unless they just flatout give him an exception rule to the 10+ wounds thing, there is no way you can make him 10+ wounds and balanced. Either hes too killable because he can be targeted, or he's unkillable and just walked right through EVERYTHING and we have an overpowered unit problem. Even if this guy has a ridiculous shooting protection of "all shooting attacks do 1 damage" he's going to die quick if he can be targeted, i guarantee it. People would dump their entire army on Girlyman if they could and not even think twice about it.

Given his size though....something tells me this guy is a LoW now. Which would be fitting, especially if they give him some mega stat boosts, but also slightly annoying.

also i wonder if theyre gonna update his Apoc datasheet in the process. The current one is dumb...a regular Nob is better than Ghaz in melee (yes i know its the theme of Apoc where characters are not beatsticks but HE should be an exception...)

Orkz have, canonically, survived having their heads ripped off, so of course Ghaz has survived it. Hell, most of his brains ain't even brains anymore.

PiñaColada wrote:
Again, yes, he'll be better at 9 wounds. But I really don't think he should be (due to size) or that GW will care enough about having him be competitive tier and keeping him there. I'll be shocked if he's at 9 wounds.

So T7 16W 2+/4++ and -1 damage and then a 5+FnP is what I'm hoping for.

In rgards to the boxset price, I assume that it's going to be the same as Blood of the Phoenix (sadly) so like 230 US dollars I think?

He isn't bigger than a Mork / Gork. And this would probably push up north of 400 points.

Honestly, he might be Deff Dread size, which are only 8 wounds.

Ugh, please not more Nobz in a box set. I've got probably 20 of them on sprues unassembled because they come in every single Ork box set.

Model looks amazing, I love that it's multipose too. Can't wait to see the datasheet for him. I wonder if he'll get the Monster keyword.

Even if he's 9+ Wounds, we still got Grotshields to keep him safe.

PiñaColada wrote:
Let's face it, it's going to look ridiculous if Ghazzy is 9 wounds with that stature. So we're back to the speculation I brought up a couple of weeks ago, how can they make a 10+ wounds Ghaz work?

It'll be interesting to see how they handle it for sure

Only way is toughness 8, 16+wounds 2+, 4++, 5+++ plus Makari can eat 4+ mortal wounds because they are 1 unit.
At that point he is still dying turn 2-3 only because your eating up all your opponents anti tank... which we will happily grot shield away because ghaz is still an infantry unit!




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 flandarz wrote:
Even if he's 9+ Wounds, we still got Grotshields to keep him safe.

Ninja’d
This is the only way ghaz lives and eats your opponent anti tank...

The real question is ghaz mobile or a slow walking melee unit

Characters always have more wounds than they "should" though. Look at the 4 wound Makari model for crying out loud. Also, I think he's pretty close to a redemptor dreadnought in size, which are 13 wounds..

I have no issue if he's 350 points or so, just as long as he doesn't feel like a waste and is fun to wield. But that's just how I see it

Edit: If he goes beyond 10 wounds I'm pretty sure he'll be a monster and not infantry

 flandarz wrote:
Even if he's 9+ Wounds, we still got Grotshields to keep him safe.

I'm not sure this is true anymore He's *massive*. I would wager he's a monster and doesn't count as infantry, so no grot shields without some kind of exception.

Also means no more Da Jump, so chonky boy is probably walking or in the Tellyporta.

it would make sense to make him a Monster but man i hope not.

They could give him a rule where he can embarked "open topped" and count as 3-4 slots to offset part of the issue, but other is we wouldnt be able to have a Painboy follow him around. Which if i field him and painboys can heal him i am fielding a painboy FOR HIM ALONE lol.

Also im glad i didnt buy another meganob box yet. I have 7 meganobz, 5 metals and 2 plastics (3rd plastic became a Bigmek) and was trying to clear out my unpainted models before i bought more stuff and hey Ghaz's box comes with 3 meganobz? perfect! dont care bout the nobz but eh im splitting this box with someone anyway.

He’s beautiful

Good lord, can picture how low a trukk would be riding with his big ass in it? And how high it would raise back up when he stepped off??

Not bad. From the teasers I was worried they were working more towards his armor being Ironjawz-like in its curvature. And we do see more curves here than typical in Ork armor, particularly Mega Armor, but they've segmented it enough that it still has an appropriately body, crude look to it.

Good model, might take on the challenge of making him not recognizably Ghaz someday, I'd certainly rather use this as a base for a MA Warboss over the AoS Megaboss.

Here's a weird thought:

What if Ghaz has two different stat lines depending on if you pose him for Morks Roar, or Gorks Klaw?


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Eh...nevermind...I don't own a morkanaut or gorkanaut but I assumed they had different statlines, they appear the same though.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Given that he had his head ripped off and lived, they probably gave him the Girlyman treatment of "i didnt die yet" and comes back with extra wounds.

Well his model is after the dok-operation, so i don`t think that will happen.
All the Primaris characters have new datasheets as well. Would be nice though.

Lord of War would be bad news because that would prevent tripple battalions but would give him a dread-naut similar statline i guess.
Better stay 9 LP HQ without Clanlock.

Diorama shot for scale. According the article, Thrakka can be assembled facing either left or right, one in a shooting pose and one in a striking pose, just like Mortarion.

His gun is a relic called mork's roar. his klaw is now calls gork's klaw, so it might be better than his current kustom klaw.

Imho 9 wounds is ok ish for his size, though up to 14 seems adequate.
As was said before LOW seems more fitting than hq choice now with that gorgeous model

I think what they will do with Ghaz is make him 9 wounds and give him a half damage mechanic like Abaddon. That way he still cant be targetted by shooting outside of stratagems and snipers and in melee he will be pretty tough vs those big damage melee weapons and thunder hammers. Its either that or they make him have more wounds and they add Bullyboyz as a strat that can intercept wounds like drones or make him untargetable like Cloud of Flies or whatever it is called for Deathguard aslong as Ghaz is behind that unit.

Im not really interested in his shooting profile even though I love his new gun model wise, too me I just wanna know what damage he can do with his Klaw, im praying it aint damage d6! Flat 4 or 5 would be what id love, not flat 6. Maybe min 3 on a D6 if you roll a 1 or 2.

What I really hope he gets is new abilities that help Orkz through auras, Orkz dont have many auras in regards to the majority of armies in 8th and something to help the ladz that isnt just advance and charge then a +1 attack when you charge would be great. Maybe have him add CPs like Calgar, Abaddon, Guiliman, etc in addition to his old abilities.

That massive Power Klaw deserves a deadly statline. It's a good candidate for the D6 w/ damage rolls of 1 or 2 counting as 3.

Maybe deals mortal wounds on 6's to-wound, or give it AP-5 Rending on 6's instead — you can comfortably fit a Primaris Marine in it lol.

I'm hoping he stays an HQ because I don't want to have to take a LOW detachment. He probably still has the <Infantry> keyword, but they could make him a <Monster> too — and yeah, I'm quite curious whether he'll still be able to fit in our transports.

Not to sell him separately is like asking for boosting China economy back to life...


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Also they presented Hil under the Goff logo. Which is scary.

 deffrekka wrote:
Im not really interested in his shooting profile even though I love his new gun model wise, too me I just wanna know what damage he can do with his Klaw, im praying it aint damage d6! Flat 4 or 5 wound be what id love, not flat 6. Maybe min 3 on a D6 if you roll a 1 or 2.

Haha, no way. Thrakka is not a knight! Most likely we will be looking at a something in the autocannon category, with S5-7, lots of shots and AP -1 or -2. If we're lucky it will be D2 instead of D1


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 Khorzain wrote:
That massive Power Klaw deserves a deadly statline. It's a good candidate for the D6 w/ damage rolls of 1 or 2 counting as 3.

Maybe deals mortal wounds on 6's to-wound, or give it AP-5 Rending on 6's instead — you can comfortably fit a Primaris Marine in it lol.

I really hope it gets two modes like the nauts do, I'd love to go sweeping away primaris with him.