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Scream

“Do you like scary movies?”


The classic self-aware slasher. Even knowing the twists and turns of the plot, I found it compelling. At the time I saw the breakout stars as Neve Campbell, Jamie Kennedy (it was a different time) and the Cox-Arquettes. Seeing it after all this time, somehow Matthew Lillard is the clear standout. Weird.

Anyway, if you like horror or horror-comedy, Scream holds up.

Has anyone seen Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon movie series?

I don't get Netflix, so I haven't been able to enjoy the films.

Don’t bother. They are not even worth a rage watch. The plot makes no sense, the characters are universally awful, poorly explained and demand zero empathy, it’s more techno-fantasy than sci-fi and adds up to about 5 hours of “well that might as well happen now”.


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Actually just go and watch the relevant pitch meeting episodes and you don’t need to watch the films.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Has anyone seen Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon movie series?

I don't get Netflix, so I haven't been able to enjoy the films.

Watch a documentary on wheat farming, and a WW2 film back to back. Its the same experience, just no slo-mo.

I feel like all you need to know about Rebel Moon is that since the second bombed even harder than the first the third has entered limbo and currently Snyder has no major projects in the work except a project to get a major project that doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

After getting his fans to badger Warner Bros into losing money and then losing Netflix even more money, I'm kind of hoping he's finally out of work and I never have to hear his idiotic opinions highlighted in my face ever again. It's been pretty great being able to forget he exists the past year.

Oh wow. I went from never hearing of these movies to being strangely appalled and intrigued simultaneously.

One of my friends said it was like "a bad Star Wars fan film directed and written by Zack Snyder."

I'll pass on it for now.

Thank you!

Even I couldn’t watch all of the first one.

It feels like some cheeky scamp had dressed up as a cleaner at a Hollywood Writer’s room, and spent the night not cleaning, but scuttling between rooms, lifting any bits of paper found in a bin, then stapled those together haphazardly into a script, then filmed it just to see what would happen,

The full Rebel Moon movies are fine. You have to be able to tolerate Snyderific random slow motion randomly inserted into random scenes, randomly, but aside from that they're reasonably well done space opera. Certainly better than the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Not that it's a high bar to clear.

The great flaw of them was that some genius at Netflix thought it was a good idea to release mangled versions of the movies that cut a swath of story and character development, let people form an opinion based on cuts that made precious little sense, and then expected them to come back to watch the complete versions that don't have the issues people got hung up on. Judging by the posts above, the plan worked flawlessly.

Also, y'all don't know what's good.

It's a constant cycle. Producers and cinema groups are hyper fixated on time limits because shorter production means more runs in the day which means more profits.

In theory streaming cuts that out a bit, but a lot of those theories are still heavily embedded.



Directors can suffer the other problem - Gangs of New York cut something like 8 hours of film time from the final cut of the film.


In the middle there's a sweet spot, but you can certainly tell that a lot of cuts end up happening because they are done and approved by people who
1) Focus on time above all else
2) Have been watching the film over and over and over for hours on end and know every twist and turn of the story. So if a chunk is missing it doesn't matter because they are mentally filling those details in and failing to realise that fresh viewers won't.

Had no interest in watching those films what so ever. Space fantasy Snyder streamer 'content'.... I'll pass.On top of that I heard bad, bad things about them.

The Rebel Moon movies are Snyder taking 6 hours and $166million to make a space version of The Seven Samurai.

Roger Corman produced a movie that did it in 105 minutes and only cost $2million. And that movie has a score by James Horner.

And George Peppard. And Robert Vaughn. And one of the most pneumatic chests to ever grace the family friendly cinema screen.

The ship has knockers as well.

That movie was so much better than it should have been. Roger Corman made a better Star Wars movie than Disney ever managed.

Roger Corman was a genius. He knew how to put together the right talent and just enough of a budget to make a real movie, and unlike many other b-movie filmmakers, he knew where to throw that extra bit of cash to get the most bang for your buck on the screen, be that in the music, the effects etc.

Four posts talking about the movie and not a single one of you names it. For shame.

It was also the film that gave us James Cameron... and Roger Corman almost fired him.

So... just so I can understand... Rebel Moon [IS/IS NOT] better than Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
It was also the film that gave us James Cameron... and Roger Corman almost fired him.

So... just so I can understand... Rebel Moon [IS/IS NOT] better than Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker.

That is like asking which is better/worse: feces or poop. I'd give the edge to LJ/RoS because they can be fun to make fun of whereas RM is just an overall unpleasant slog even if riffing.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
It was also the film that gave us James Cameron... and Roger Corman almost fired him.

So... just so I can understand... Rebel Moon [IS/IS NOT] better than Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker.

That is like asking which is better/worse: feces or poop. I'd give the edge to LJ/RoS because they can be fun to make fun of whereas RM is just an overall unpleasant slog even if riffing.

Wonder if there is a Rifftrax of Rebel Moon...

The sequels are infinitely superior to Snyder’s drivel.

He’s made one decent film, the Dawn of the Dead remake. Not a patch on the original, no. But has enough new things to be interesting and enjoyable.

Then it’s off to the races with unrestrained stupidity.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The sequels are infinitely superior to Snyder’s drivel.

He’s made one decent film, the Dawn of the Dead remake. Not a patch on the original, no. But has enough new things to be interesting and enjoyable.

Then it’s off to the races with unrestrained stupidity.

Wow. That's a lot, as Rise of Skywalker was so embarrassingly stupid that it makes the Transformers: Rise of the Beasts look like Schindler's List.

My only real issues with Rise of Skywalker?

The battle over Exegol not showing the non Final Order capital ships getting stuck in.

Some of the creatures designs (that slug dude aboard the Falcon).

Kylo Ren/Ben Solo using a TIE Fighter, long established to have no Hyperdrive to get to Exegol.

Some of the dialogue lands completely flat. Granted, Star Wars has never been known for a sparkling script, but most of the time you can just go with it. The whole “they fly now” bit is one such bum note.

But the rest isn’t really any dafter or sillier than the rest of the saga.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He’s made one decent film, the Dawn of the Dead remake.

The trailer for The Watchmen wasn't to bad...

Dawn of the Dead was written by James Gunn, which probably did a lot of heavy lifting.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
My only real issues with Rise of Skywalker?

The battle over Exegol not showing the non Final Order capital ships getting stuck in.

Some of the creatures designs (that slug dude aboard the Falcon).

Kylo Ren/Ben Solo using a TIE Fighter, long established to have no Hyperdrive to get to Exegol.

Some of the dialogue lands completely flat. Granted, Star Wars has never been known for a sparkling script, but most of the time you can just go with it. The whole “they fly now” bit is one such bum note.

But the rest isn’t really any dafter or sillier than the rest of the saga.

Except we know what was filmed and then cut by JJ Abrams because he was pandering to Chinese audiences.

Thankfully we got the Sith Dagger that lines up perfectly to Death Star wreckage.

A calvary charge in space, and the Star destroyers that have trouble flying upwards...

The whole film makes my brain hurt. It makes Last Jedi's Retcon of how hyperspace works seem intelligent. (And makes Rogue One not work).

 Ahtman wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He’s made one decent film, the Dawn of the Dead remake.

The trailer for The Watchmen wasn't to bad...

Dawn of the Dead was written by James Gunn, which probably did a lot of heavy lifting.

I liked that film a lot. This side of Shaun of the Dead.... is it my favourite zombie film?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
It was also the film that gave us James Cameron... and Roger Corman almost fired him.

So... just so I can understand... Rebel Moon [IS/IS NOT] better than Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker.

IS NOT.

Really hurts to say it, but at least the Sequels give you some good meme context. They’re laughably bad but not boring.


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 Ahtman wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He’s made one decent film, the Dawn of the Dead remake.

The trailer for The Watchmen wasn't to bad...

Dawn of the Dead was written by James Gunn, which probably did a lot of heavy lifting.

I’d say The Smashing Pumpkins made the Watchmen trailer.

Dawn if the Dead is also a better fit for his nihilistic tendencies. MoS’s/BVS’s Kent parents would have fit right in in a bleak zombie movie.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
My only real issues with Rise of Skywalker?

The battle over Exegol not showing the non Final Order capital ships getting stuck in.

Some of the creatures designs (that slug dude aboard the Falcon).

Kylo Ren/Ben Solo using a TIE Fighter, long established to have no Hyperdrive to get to Exegol.

Some of the dialogue lands completely flat. Granted, Star Wars has never been known for a sparkling script, but most of the time you can just go with it. The whole “they fly now” bit is one such bum note.

But the rest isn’t really any dafter or sillier than the rest of the saga.

Other than strongly disagreeing with your take, I want to know what you thought of Battlefield Earth or Jupiter Ascending.

Battlefield Earth is just cack.

A cack story, cack acting, just a great big steaming turd of a movie.

Don’t think I’ve seen Jupiter Ascending? Is that the one with her with the eyebrows that did the awful Oirish accent when she was in that Victorians but with Fairies show when none of the other Fae had an Irish, let alone Oirish accent, making you wonder why anyone bothered?