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 Dr Coconut wrote:


Nothing gets removed from the game, ever, once it's in. It gets removed from further advancement in the story.

My Deathguard Obliterators and Bikers got removed shortly after they were made great by the Traitor Legions codex. All part of GWs plan to make Chaos players bitter and twisted like the armies they play.


Been wondering if I'll be able to take some new Chaos units to the GT final on the 16th of March, won't be long until we know now.

Who's ready for another week of the daemon engine and an awesome lack of Shadow Spear reveals?

Praying for a reveal today, getting very frustrated now

 XT-1984 wrote:

 Dr Coconut wrote:


Nothing gets removed from the game, ever, once it's in. It gets removed from further advancement in the story.

My Deathguard Obliterators and Bikers got removed shortly after they were made great by the Traitor Legions codex. All part of GWs plan to make Chaos players bitter and twisted like the armies they play.


Been wondering if I'll be able to take some new Chaos units to the GT final on the 16th of March, won't be long until we know now.

Yeah...but Obliterators and Bikers didn't cease to exist. They just removed them from Death Guard.

It's no different from Centurions, Wolf Guard, DA Terminators with Plasma Cannons, etc. Different armies can be different, even if they're Marines.

The only thing that let's one hope for a more unexpected story progression is that GW now listens more to what is going on on the internet.
The word about Failbaddon the most unsuccessful Warmaster should've landed at their doorstep by now. If they are going to do something about it we will know soon.

 Symbio Joe wrote:

The word about Failbaddon the most unsuccessful Warmaster should've landed at their doorstep by now. If they are going to do something about it we will know soon.

Abaddon's primary goals are so immense in scale that they cannot succeed, or the whole setting goes up in flames. If blowing up Cadia wasn't enough to satisfy the Failbaddon crowd, what would be?

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Symbio Joe wrote:

The word about Failbaddon the most unsuccessful Warmaster should've landed at their doorstep by now. If they are going to do something about it we will know soon.

Abaddon's primary goals are so immense in scale that they cannot succeed, or the whole setting goes up in flames. If blowing up Cadia wasn't enough to satisfy the Failbaddon crowd, what would be?

The destruction of the chaos gods and the imperium, one is possible, the other is not.

Abbaddon just needs to break his goals down into smaller, more achievable units: Murder a guardsman; summon a single demon, violate a specific shrine,... With each little victory he will get a little squirt of dopamine and encourage him to keep ticking off those boxes. He will be drinking out of the Emperors skull in no time.
And an accountability coach. Literature is clear even the most ruthless villain is more likely to dessacrate a planet with someone checking in on him. I’d volunteer but I’m already helping my buddy stick with his keto diet.

 Formosa wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Symbio Joe wrote:

The word about Failbaddon the most unsuccessful Warmaster should've landed at their doorstep by now. If they are going to do something about it we will know soon.

Abaddon's primary goals are so immense in scale that they cannot succeed, or the whole setting goes up in flames. If blowing up Cadia wasn't enough to satisfy the Failbaddon crowd, what would be?

The destruction of the chaos gods and the imperium, one is possible, the other is not.

One is only possible through the other. Something Alpharius Ommegon knew, worked on and had their fall out about.

Kendo wrote:
Abbaddon just needs to break his goals down into smaller, more achievable units: Murder a guardsman; summon a single demon, violate a specific shrine,... With each little victory he will get a little squirt of dopamine and encourage him to keep ticking off those boxes. He will be drinking out of the Emperors skull in no time.
And an accountability coach. Literature is clear even the most ruthless villain is more likely to dessacrate a planet with someone checking in on him. I’d volunteer but I’m already helping my buddy stick with his keto diet.

This made me smile lol.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Who's ready for another week of the daemon engine and an awesome lack of Shadow Spear reveals?

They have to announce something today.

Is there anything else left that GW has announced or hinted at other than Shadowspear/Vigilus 2?

I thought the Black Library celebration was the last one, but I'm not keeping close enough track of things to say for certain. Maybe something for a Specialist Game?

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Symbio Joe wrote:

The word about Failbaddon the most unsuccessful Warmaster should've landed at their doorstep by now. If they are going to do something about it we will know soon.

Abaddon's primary goals are so immense in scale that they cannot succeed, or the whole setting goes up in flames. If blowing up Cadia wasn't enough to satisfy the Failbaddon crowd, what would be?

Writing Chaos fiction for Chaos players in a manner that presents that Chaos faction as the protagonist might. Black Library novels seem to be doing this pretty successfully.

By contrast, the 13th Black Crusade, Fall of Cadia and the whole rift business was presented as a footnote in the quest to resurrect Girlyman, then an obstacle for Girlyman to overcome on his way to Terra, then a threat to counter-crusade with an army pulled out of Cawl's rectal aperture.

One of the most asked questions I remember after the last Gathering Storm and learning of the hundred year time jump in Dark Imperium was if Failbaddon just took a century off after smashing Cadia. Mission accomplished, let's hit the beach, finally getting a tan after ten millennia in the Eye of Terror!

But of course the answer is that Failbaddon is carried a lot by Internet dynamic. I doubt that at this point there is any desire or much chance for that matter to see that changed.

 Geifer wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Who's ready for another week of the daemon engine and an awesome lack of Shadow Spear reveals?

They have to announce something today.

Is there anything else left that GW has announced or hinted at other than Shadowspear/Vigilus 2?

I thought the Black Library celebration was the last one, but I'm not keeping close enough track of things to say for certain. Maybe something for a Specialist Game?

I think the Sylvaneth warband for Shadspire has yet to be released, and the new Khorne Battletome for Sigmar. So it may just be either/both of them.

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Who's ready for another week of the daemon engine and an awesome lack of Shadow Spear reveals?

They have to announce something today.

Is there anything else left that GW has announced or hinted at other than Shadowspear/Vigilus 2?

I thought the Black Library celebration was the last one, but I'm not keeping close enough track of things to say for certain. Maybe something for a Specialist Game?

I think the Sylvaneth warband for Shadspire has yet to be released, and the new Khorne Battletome for Sigmar. So it may just be either/both of them.

And the Necromunda Ambots. Although the Shadespire warband will probably be in April with the Kharadron one.

Poor old Abaddon. He broke the imperium in half causing loads of planets to fall to chaos. It’s arguably more than Horus ever managed. What else do you guys want from he guy?

I’ll grant you that it took him a while to achieve. He had a fair few obstacles to overcome though.

Mandragola wrote:
Poor old Abaddon. He broke the imperium in half causing loads of planets to fall to chaos. It’s arguably more than Horus ever managed. What else do you guys want from he guy?

I’ll grant you that it took him a while to achieve. He had a fair few obstacles to overcome though.

That whole "failbaddon" thing is a bad 4chan meme anyways. Ever since the black crusades were a thing, it's always been that Abaddon has had ulterior motives for each and every one; it's not something new they pulled out of their ass to "retcon" him losing 12 times. The 2nd edition codex simply mentions a "black crusade" as any large-scale Chaos incursion, not just Abaddon's. Ever after that it was synonymous with Abaddon but they have never changed from being losses to victories.

4pm has passed and nothing... Don't think we are getting anything

Rogerio134134 wrote:
4pm has passed and nothing... Don't think we are getting anything

6pm is when they show next weeks preorders.

New Daemon Engine reveal, and it's BIG.

EDIT: Perhaps there's terrain in Shadowspear or something else to represent the Daemon forges on Nemedghast?

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Who's ready for another week of the daemon engine and an awesome lack of Shadow Spear reveals?

They have to announce something today.

Is there anything else left that GW has announced or hinted at other than Shadowspear/Vigilus 2?

I thought the Black Library celebration was the last one, but I'm not keeping close enough track of things to say for certain. Maybe something for a Specialist Game?

I think the Sylvaneth warband for Shadspire has yet to be released, and the new Khorne Battletome for Sigmar. So it may just be either/both of them.

And the Necromunda Ambots. Although the Shadespire warband will probably be in April with the Kharadron one.

Cool. Forgot about Ambots. I wouldn't complain if they were announced today. *hides from angry Chaos mob*

Wayniac wrote:

Mandragola wrote:
Poor old Abaddon. He broke the imperium in half causing loads of planets to fall to chaos. It’s arguably more than Horus ever managed. What else do you guys want from he guy?

I’ll grant you that it took him a while to achieve. He had a fair few obstacles to overcome though.

That whole "failbaddon" thing is a bad 4chan meme anyways. Ever since the black crusades were a thing, it's always been that Abaddon has had ulterior motives for each and every one; it's not something new they pulled out of their ass to "retcon" him losing 12 times. The 2nd edition codex simply mentions a "black crusade" as any large-scale Chaos incursion, not just Abaddon's. Ever after that it was synonymous with Abaddon but they have never changed from being losses to victories.

On a personal note, in my years of playing Black Legion and beyond, I've never had a model consistently underperform like Failbaddon. Every time, every single time, I would have taken three Chaos Cultists over him and expected them to achieve more.

Well, there was that one time when he got turned into Spawnbaddon by a friendly Sorcerer, and proceeded to wreak havoc formerly thought impossible. He even passes both 6+ invulnerable saves he had to take.

I hope when his new model is fully revealed, we get a chance to assemble him as a Chaos Spawn.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
New Daemon Engine reveal, and it's BIG.

EDIT: Perhaps there's terrain in Shadowspear or something else to represent the Daemon forges on Nemedghast?

Not showing for me yet...

It would make sense for Chaos to get their own, thematic terrain piece. It's GW's current thing, after all. See Frag Drill and Mek Shop and all.

 Geifer wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
New Daemon Engine reveal, and it's BIG.

EDIT: Perhaps there's terrain in Shadowspear or something else to represent the Daemon forges on Nemedghast?

Not showing for me yet...

It would make sense for Chaos to get their own, thematic terrain piece. It's GW's current thing, after all. See Frag Drill and Mek Shop and all.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/24/the-daemon-engine-24th-february-2019/?fbclid=IwAR0aXLJIbWQA7xskilDTH0zsDyF6Z8SA4B7D4HcQSYjI3xXZ6qk4N0y4pL0

They have been trolling us this long, I’m sure they could wait another hours to draw it out even longer

MORTALS, WHY IS IT EVERY TIME I SHOW YOU AN IMAGE YOU GUESS THAT IT IS THE PRIMARCH OF THE ACCURSED I LEGION UPON A THUNDERHAWK. EVEN TO MY TWISTED, ANCIENT INTELLECT, THIS SEEMS SOMEWHAT IMPROBABLE. I MEAN, LOOK AT THIS.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
New Daemon Engine reveal, and it's BIG.

EDIT: Perhaps there's terrain in Shadowspear or something else to represent the Daemon forges on Nemedghast?

Not showing for me yet...

It would make sense for Chaos to get their own, thematic terrain piece. It's GW's current thing, after all. See Frag Drill and Mek Shop and all.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/24/the-daemon-engine-24th-february-2019/?fbclid=IwAR0aXLJIbWQA7xskilDTH0zsDyF6Z8SA4B7D4HcQSYjI3xXZ6qk4N0y4pL0

Thanks. Yep, Chaos ferris wheel.

I'm guessing some terrain

Rogerio134134 wrote:
Praying for a reveal today, getting very frustrated now

They could have done absolutely nothing and just been silent for 80 days. Would that have been preferable?

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Rogerio134134 wrote:
Praying for a reveal today, getting very frustrated now

They could have done absolutely nothing and just been silent for 80 days. Would that have been preferable?

Yes as ignorance is bliss

 Geifer wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
New Daemon Engine reveal, and it's BIG.

EDIT: Perhaps there's terrain in Shadowspear or something else to represent the Daemon forges on Nemedghast?

Not showing for me yet...

It would make sense for Chaos to get their own, thematic terrain piece. It's GW's current thing, after all. See Frag Drill and Mek Shop and all.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/24/the-daemon-engine-24th-february-2019/?fbclid=IwAR0aXLJIbWQA7xskilDTH0zsDyF6Z8SA4B7D4HcQSYjI3xXZ6qk4N0y4pL0

Thanks. Yep, Chaos ferris wheel.

I'd love if we got some of the crazy Chaos tech from Epic: Armageddon like the monowheel of doom.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I'm guessing some terrain

Given previous faction terrain and the story releases so far it likely interacts with daemon engines.

I'm going to put forward a ridiculous but would be awesome if true theory. A Daemon cannon. And I mean Daemon cannon in the vain of that titan that that could shoot daemons. You would be able to choose what lesser daemon/ammo you fire, with the different gods resembling a different effect. Tzeentch is tesla, nurgle posion etc etc.

As part of that, there's a slim chance that the fired daemon can survive the impact and be immediately in combat with the target, with no need to keep points in reserve.

Did the newest one get posted yet? Might as well put up the actual pic I suppose