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I'm liking everything I see, impractical or not.

Flying dudes make me think of the old Forgotten Worlds game from Capcom, flying around shooting stuff.

This is a great start of Chaos for my friend. And some excellent new Primaris for my ever increasing unbuilt Primaris force.

WhiteDog wrote:
The Lt is such a knife master he has two knife and a little knife at his belt.

I'm possibly heretical but I think that is the best looking Lieutenant so far.

That’s not how smoke grenades work...

(Cue “but there’s space wizards!” posts)

The mini codexes are a nice surprise though!

WhiteDog wrote:
The Lt is such a knife master he has two knife and a little knife at his belt.

Spoiler:

Maybe someone put the knife on the wrong one ?

Quite certain there's a blurred chaos marine with a lascannon in the background in that video.

Havocs may be happening indeed.

I think the suppressors will have other weapon options when they finally get a kit. Some form of multi-launcher missile pack would be cool, like a cyclone missile launcher of sorts rule wise. Especially if you could choose missile ammo.

Reviers would fit so so so well with this force if they sorted out their rules/loadout. Those stub pistols with power knives would be awesome. or even a different form of chainsword that gave -1ap with additional attacks of normal chainsord.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Infiltrator rolling the smoke grenade for model of the year.

Looking at the smoke grenade there, this rumour engine pic would imply that there are more vanguard models to come.

It's looking like this is like Dark Imperium- monopose models in a starter, with multiparts with more options later

I’m intrigued that 6 out of 10 infiltrators and 2 of the flying autocannon dudes are duplicates, while every other model seems to be unique (including every single CSM). I guess that means at least the Space Marines are all monopose, but still doesn’t give a definite answer for the CSM. The earlier spotted Melta and Heavy Bolter are definitely not shown in this reveal.

I was expecting the Black Legion as the Chaos faction, not the Daemonkin. The CSM seem to have a 5 man melee squad and a 5 man shooting squad.
The chaos models are nice, but I will just get the 2 new Possessed. The rest I either already have or don´t want to add to my force.

All in all a good box to kickstart the chaos release. Like Dark Imperium did for the Death Guard.

the could be a photo from a different angle, and edited to remove some parts of the other model.

However, the models look to be easy to build format kits, so they are going to need full kits at some point which this could be from.

Looks great. Aside from the abundance of bare heads on the Vanguard side

My only concern is how compatible the Phobos armoured Marines are with existing sculpted shoulder pads. Some of them look like they need that small cut out on the left pauldron to fit properly.

I'm really digging all of it (though the flying SM are a bit silly, I don't mind it). I'm hoping we get some KT rules for these guys so GW can give me a reason to buy this boxed set.

New Chaos Marines look great. I particularly dig the Autocannon guy. SM librarian and new SM type look good too.

stormcraft wrote:
Soo, minicodexes with traits and stuff? Thats a suprise

I'm not sure how I feel about it. I don't want to have to set aside another detachment to get their traits and stratagems, so, hopefully there is a clause for these that lets them fold into mainline CSM easily.

is it weird they never mention if they multi-part?

 Rayvon wrote:

WhiteDog wrote:
The Lt is such a knife master he has two knife and a little knife at his belt.

Spoiler:

Maybe someone put the knife on the wrong one ?

I'm not so sure the 'little knife' is a knife and not a badge denoting his proficiency at knife fighting...

Not keen on the infiltrators dunno what it is, it's like theyv made marines not marines anymore but something else like halo or something. Like holding the pistol grip it just seems to modern looking... why would a space marine need to steady his aim like that the recoil won't move his arm

really like the second greater possesed. Hope to see a rea lkit for these bad boys

Good find. And honestly I’d be amazed if there weren’t full kids coming.

These guys aren’t full kits, they are like the ones in dark imperium. You can see three pairs of identical interceptors and one pair each of the eliminators and suppressors - with different head positions.

This is fine. I’m actually painting up some dark imperium guys now along with full kit intercessors. You can hardly tell the difference. I’ll probably get this set and then mix them in with full kit guys when they appear.

Overall it looks great. Now let’s see those points (and traits, and psychic powers... and maybe stratagems)!

These new primaris models look like something from Infinity. Not enough grimdark for me. Hard pass.

For sure going to paint that Venomcrawler with his "helmet" in my favourite American Football team! lol

Gents, it would seem we came in full circle.

Back in the day, when I started 40k there was this meme of STEALTH MARINES doing the rounds. Little did we know that mere 15 years later we got real stealth marines on our hands.

Anyone know if the SM dudes are their own detachment only or if they can fold into existing SM armies? SW/DW/BA/DA?

If I can run these guys as DW/DA/SW I'll probably bite but if it's a "vanguard marine detachment" or proper SM only I'm out.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Quite certain there's a blurred chaos marine with a lascannon in the background in that video.

Havocs may be happening indeed.

I think the suppressors will have other weapon options when they finally get a kit. Some form of multi-launcher missile pack would be cool, like a cyclone missile launcher of sorts rule wise. Especially if you could choose missile ammo.

Reviers would fit so so so well with this force if they sorted out their rules/loadout. Those stub pistols with power knives would be awesome. or even a different form of chainsword that gave -1ap with additional attacks of normal chainsord.

Watched the video a couple of times, pretty certain there’s no models in it that aren’t in the box. Couldn’t see a lascannon anywhere. Where abouts do you see it?

I did not expect to see them releasing codices.

Damn it. After looking at the Vanguard group shot, it does look like these are DI style monopose/pushfit kits The two Suppressor troopers and a few of the Infiltrators have purity seals and other small details in exactly the same place, but there heads are at a slightly different angle.

Oh well at least my wallet will be getting a temporary reprieve.

 Nova_Impero wrote:
I did not expect to see them releasing codices.

Those codices are like the Gellerpox Idontremember. Just stop-gaps until they re-release the SM and Chaos codex to put all of this there.

Aww, that lieutenant and his stupid useless knives... It would be almost adorable if it wasn't so infuriating.

 ImAGeek wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Quite certain there's a blurred chaos marine with a lascannon in the background in that video.

Havocs may be happening indeed.

I think the suppressors will have other weapon options when they finally get a kit. Some form of multi-launcher missile pack would be cool, like a cyclone missile launcher of sorts rule wise. Especially if you could choose missile ammo.

Reviers would fit so so so well with this force if they sorted out their rules/loadout. Those stub pistols with power knives would be awesome. or even a different form of chainsword that gave -1ap with additional attacks of normal chainsord.

Watched the video a couple of times, pretty certain there’s no models in it that aren’t in the box. Couldn’t see a lascannon anywhere. Where abouts do you see it?

In the background 7 or 8 second in on one of the platforms in the rear that is blurred. I say it's a lascannon as it doesn't have the underslung rail the autocannon has. If it isn't a lascannon, it is not actually attached to the mini and is part of the terrain but I can't see how it would be.

Odd that there is so much repetition amongst the Primaris side (six Scouty dudes, 2 sniper dudes and 2 grav chute dudes being the same bar different head sculpts) and none that I can see on the Chaos side.