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MongooseMatt wrote:

 DaveC wrote:


That’s £100, $165 US, $270 AUS by GW current conversions - €130 and €135 correspond to the those prices so they went for the upper price for Euro looks like they’ve decided to break the £100 3 digit sticker price for this :(

£105 in the UK.

£105 GBP is €138, $173.25 US (Killshot set) of course they could change rates again

AUD$270 for a bunch of push-fit kits and no giant hardbacked rulebook? Feth that noise.

Dark Imperium has more stuff and costs less.

 Albertorius wrote:
The very first pic they showed, up high. I didn't see it at first either, had to have it pointed out.

Genuinely thought that was a different type of Marine (perhaps the Infiltrators that had been rumoured). Pretty easy mistake to make, given his back's turned and you can't see the gun.

And you can see why people got excited for these guys based upon the one in the foreground. How little did we know...

Kdash wrote:
I wouldn’t call that “flying”, but rather them being shown dropping down from orbit/drop ship using their grav chutes (aka fancy parachutes).

I guess that's down to the person. To me it looked like some kind of flying vehicle at first, like a land speeder of some kind, so... very much flying, for me.

 Galas wrote:
If Dark Angels can't have all this new units (And why shouldn't they?) then thats it for me, I won't be buying the box.

Well, GW already put up the middle finger to DW/BA/DA/DW by denying them access to the Indomitus Crusaders specialist detachment, so I'm worried they might do it again.

If they do that again because of "chapter diversity" they better start hurrying up with Primaris Thunderwolf Cavalry, Death Company and Ravenwing Black Knights

GW have to replace all the regular Marines before they can start replacing all the specialist Marines.

 DaveC wrote:


£105 GBP is €138, $173.25 US (Killshot set) of course they could change rates again

135 Euros, 'fraid I don't have the other currencies.

My facebook kit supplier has just posted the 'official' UK price as provided by his GW rep as £105

so the prices they are a rising although I'm surprised they didn't just go for £100 as it's a big psycological difference

Pandabeer wrote:
So... anyone know whether SW/BA/DA/DW will be able to take Vanguard Marines without having to put them into an allied detachment from Codex SM? I'm kind of fearing for the Keen Senses Suppressors I just thought up

They've said on Facebook that all Chapters will have access to them, although I'm not 100% sure that included DW.

 insaniak wrote:

Pandabeer wrote:
So... anyone know whether SW/BA/DA/DW will be able to take Vanguard Marines without having to put them into an allied detachment from Codex SM? I'm kind of fearing for the Keen Senses Suppressors I just thought up

They've said on Facebook that all Chapters will have access to them, although I'm not 100% sure that included DW.

Didn't they include Deathwatch, but exclude Grey Knights when they did the first wave of Primaris?

I’m surprised they didn’t go with £99, but they insist on whole numbers.
But the whole reason people do £99.99 etc is because it falls into a lower bracket psychologically


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 Albertorius wrote:

Kdash wrote:
I wouldn’t call that “flying”, but rather them being shown dropping down from orbit/drop ship using their grav chutes (aka fancy parachutes).

I guess that's down to the person. To me it looked like some kind of flying vehicle at first, like a land speeder of some kind, so... very much flying, for me.

I just can’t see it as anything like a vehicle, it’s perfectly humanoid shaped..

Then again HBMC, I think you can clearly see the gun, particularly in conjunction with the other guy we see..

Danny76 wrote:

But the whole reason people do £99.99 etc is because it falls into a lower bracket psychologically

That used to be the thing, but more retailers have been switching to whole numbers on the thinking that shoppers these days are wise to the 99cent trick and it just annoys them instead of tricking them into spending more.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
My facebook kit supplier has just posted the 'official' UK price as provided by his GW rep as £105

so the prices they are a rising although I'm surprised they didn't just go for £100 as it's a big psycological difference

I don't get it... contents are comparable to dark imperium, both full of new mono pose etb kits. But dark imperium is both cheaper and has a full rule book extra for £10 less?

Dudeface wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
My facebook kit supplier has just posted the 'official' UK price as provided by his GW rep as £105

so the prices they are a rising although I'm surprised they didn't just go for £100 as it's a big psycological difference

I don't get it... contents are comparable to dark imperium, both full of new mono pose etb kits. But dark imperium is both cheaper and has a full rule book extra for £10 less?

GW does price hikes with new releases rather than general updates. This could be just be their periodic price hike for this style kits

tneva82 wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
My facebook kit supplier has just posted the 'official' UK price as provided by his GW rep as £105

so the prices they are a rising although I'm surprised they didn't just go for £100 as it's a big psycological difference

I don't get it... contents are comparable to dark imperium, both full of new mono pose etb kits. But dark imperium is both cheaper and has a full rule book extra for £10 less?

GW does price hikes with new releases rather than general updates. This could be just be their periodic price hike for this style kits

As much as I understand that, it still makes this release look particularly pants on head stupid.

The only positive thing I can think regarding the price of this box is that it seems to have fewer duplicate sculpts that dark imperium. That said, it doesn't come close to making up for the rule book in terms of value.

i can only hope this set becomes a flop to send GW a message but with the quality of the sculpts I seriously doubt it.

 Galas wrote:
i can only hope this set becomes a flop to send GW a message but with the quality of the sculpts I seriously doubt it.

As much as I want this too... I also want the boxset. So unfortunately I have to betray the cause.

Disappointing if its being bumped by ten quid that's a fairly big price increase. I really want this set though and will probably buy it from a retailer that offers 20 percent discount but it's still very expensive.

Rogerio134134 wrote:
Disappointing if its being bumped by ten quid that's a fairly big price increase. I really want this set though and will probably buy it from a retailer that offers 20 percent discount but it's still very expensive.

If this was a regular battlebox I could accept the price hike but being basically a starter set in everything but in name of monopose models without the big rulebook... it doesn't feels right.

 insaniak wrote:

Pandabeer wrote:
So... anyone know whether SW/BA/DA/DW will be able to take Vanguard Marines without having to put them into an allied detachment from Codex SM? I'm kind of fearing for the Keen Senses Suppressors I just thought up

They've said on Facebook that all Chapters will have access to them, although I'm not 100% sure that included DW.

Which is funny, because DW is probably the only marine subfaction that can actually successfully use the flying whackadoodle autocannon guys.

Because infantry bodies holding heavy weapons tends to only work if you can have a couple chaff bodies standing in front of the unit tanking hits, and the "tactical genius" of primaris marines prevents them from doing any of that nonsense. Putting them in a kill team alongside Intercessors (who can Beta Bolters all day long at 36" SIA) seems like the only way to make them even remotely worth using.

Otherwise, it's like "OK, you can deep strike them and eat a -1 to hit, or you can start them on the table and guess what I'm shooting the pants off of turn 1?"

It is more expensive than I expected...

This just means that those doing mass splitting of the sets for auction sites make more money as GW will inevitably take 12 months to release the contents separately, if at all.

Even at 20% off the set comes in at £84 UK. At least that puts you over most retailers free postage threshold.

From Facebook:

I get 25% from my discounters but even now we are over the £75 mark if so (closer to £80 in fact..)
Used to come in at £71.25 which in my head I just called £70.

Not even sure how much I want from the box, and as they aren’t multi part, may not get much if I was to sell on a few bits.
So that’s making me pause to think..

Guys just find someone that wants the other half of the box and split the cost with them.

That doesn’t make a difference?
Halving it at £95 was better than halving £105..
I think that’s why people are still unhappy at the increase...

Anyhow, In my case I won’t find anyone who wants the exact opposite to the bits I want..

 Thousand-Son-Sorcerer wrote:
Guys just find someone that wants the other half of the box and split the cost with them.

While that is usually good advice, in my experience, it's far harder to accomplish. In most cases, both players want the same half.
As much as I would prefer to support my LGS with purchases, anything from this box will need to be from eBay.

I have been planning on getting the Know No Fear box for my boys (one needs more Hellblasters, the other needs more Inceptors and I could use the Intercessors).
With the contents of this box revealed, we briefly thought about changing that plan....but then saw the rules, and now the price.
Even though I am sure the Suppressors will get an alternate gun option (likely Lastalons or Onslaught cannon), for now we will proceed as planned and get KNF.

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I think my plan will just be to wait. I don't need the chaos stuff and I can't be bothered ebaying or trading it. Instead I'll see what the full kits look like and get them.

These models are good but I don't need them and there's no rush. Smaller boxes are less likely to draw my girlfriend's attention.

The Primaris characters are the only guys that really stand out. If anyone at my club actively wants the chaos stuff then I wouldn't mind making a trade, but there's no actual need to.

In any case, sprue pics have been floating about, and it seems the stuff is mixed on the sprues like with the DI, so these ETB versions won't be released separately later.

i just hope they show abaddon tomorrow!