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So, new Havocs huh... and I wanted to actually be able to feed my daughter these days... oh well, she'll understand.

It is entirely what I would want from a resculpt, upsizing and imposing without deviating much from the classic.

I personally really like the breather mask on him.

Look next to Abaddon. You can see the model with the candle backback thats holding the flaming book. I'd post a closer pic, but I have no idea how to post photos on Dakkadakka from my phone.

I never thought it would happen, but I would have liked a helmeted version of his head. I will just have to go with the ventilator version.

The book bearer has to be a dark apostle!

interesting,..

topaxygouroun i wrote:
We've seen the Phobos discipline. Any leaks on the chaos one? (Malefic).

Havn't seen it but it would be nearly impossible to be more gakky than the space marine powers....Have you ever seen a set of psychic powers that can only be used on units in a particular type of armor? I'm not even buying this POS anymore.

GaroRobe wrote:
I feel like he should have an older marine helmet on his spikes. Like, he's never faced a worthy marine until the primaris lieutenants came out?

He has one on right spike. You can tell by oldmarine mania of not wearing helmets

I thought only the Word Bearers had Dark Apostles though?

new dark apostle, pretty sure the backback here is from the rumour engine

 Gael Knight wrote:
Can't wait to see what the new Chaos Terminators look like.

What's going on in the upper left and what is the floating spiky blob in the upper right?

He's look very cool but to be honest he was half way shown allready. Waiting 80 days for this is a little, hmmm...

I don't know.

GaroRobe wrote:


Look next to Abaddon. You can see the model with the candle backback thats holding the flaming book. I'd post a closer pic, but I have no idea how to post photos on Dakkadakka from my phone.

Definitely looks to be an Apostle.

But will this new dark aspostle also be sponsored by Charmin brand toilet paper?

Flying ships could be dreadclaw drop pods

 Latro_ wrote:
new dark apostle, pretty sure the backback here is from the rumour engine

Two, if you include the burning book

stormcraft wrote:
Flying ships could be dreadclaw drop pods

They don't look like it and GW wouldn't put FW models in the artwork I think.

My money goes on new thing altogether.

TFW this model representing one particular guy has more optional aesthetic components than the models for the crazy anarchic creations of ork big meks.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:
Can't wait to see what the new Chaos Terminators look like.

Spoiler:

What's going on in the upper left and what is the floating spiky blob in the upper right?

It's the old Abaddon miniature with detached arms.

I approve. He looks suitably epic and Guillieman (sp?) sized. Unlike with Roubette, the extra chaotic filigree on the armor is appropriate and not gaudy. I might end up getting him despite my lack of interest in playing 40k at the moment (beyond just maybe a Kill Team game). I wonder how big the model is compared with the Forgeworld Horus....

 Latro_ wrote:
new dark apostle, pretty sure the backback here is from the rumour engine

Two, if you include the burning book
And three, if you look at the axe of the dude below him

First things first, a Terminator with actual anatomy. Yay!

All around good new take with only two points of criticism. I liked the classic trophy rack better. That was one of the coolest things Chaos Terminators had an Abaddon wore it well. This one is kind of dull. The other thing is Drach'nyen. Might just be the paintjob which I totally dislike, by the way, but the faces look a little lost compared to the original model. I think they had more density to them and made that part of the sword their own little playground, whereas the new sword has a couple of faces floating in empty space.

Head options are fun. Though to be honest I didn't expect a respirator head for him. I guess it was necessary since nobody cared who he was before he put on the mask...

Also nice to make the cloak optional.

Overall a great new model and something that was worth waiting for. Time to start speculating how much that model will cost me and if I need it in the foreseeable future (which, honestly, depends more on whether GW releases a cool new Terminator kit than Abaddon himself).

 Xenomancers wrote:
Abaddon is primarch size....but will he have Primarch stats?

Almost Primarch sized. Just like Chaos Marines are only almost Primaris sized. It's their allotted purpose. An army of almosts that make the heroes shine.

 CodeKantorBlue wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:
Can't wait to see what the new Chaos Terminators look like.

Spoiler:

What's going on in the upper left and what is the floating spiky blob in the upper right?

It's the old Abaddon miniature with detached arms.

I see what you did there.

They look like Raptors.

Gosh darn it, here I am happily building a legion of filthy renegades and suddenly the Big Bad is back.

Really lovely model. Cannot find fault with it.

I guess a Black Legion detachment can be added to boss my boys around?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:
also

And the villagers rejoice!

*MUPPETESQUE FLAILING*

his trophy rack has nice details like two of the skulls are marines with the head studs and one looks like it has a INQ marking.

Think i'll end up putting a traditional cloth banner on him if i can find one big enough

more i look at the face mask one i keep thinking immortan joe XD

Abaddon is utterly amazing. Stunning, even. As is the havoc. I sacrifice my wallet unto thee, new CSM release.

Basically the only nitpick I have is that I'd prefer a classic dual trophy rack instead of the wide one facing the front - for my Lord of Contagion I cut his similar styled icon off - but I guess not having rows of spikes along the back helps with the removable cloak. The sculpted faces are not very scary looking, same as Archaon's sword. And the havoc has a weird helmet. All those things are easy fixes and I'm willing to shell out for Abby, even though I had Word Bearers and plan to redo them, never Black Legion.

PS: Look at those legs! And the rest of the huge Termi armour! I wish regular (C)SM Termis were made almost as big, looks proper tactical dreadnought instead of a kid next to the Primaris. Why couldn't Typhus be this amazing?!

 Latro_ wrote:

NO BODY CARED WHO I WAS UNTIL I PUT ON THE MASK!


Perhaps he's wondering why you'd shoot a Marine, before throwing him from a Thunderhawk.

Love it.

 H wrote:
I thought only the Word Bearers had Dark Apostles though?

You must have missed the last 3 Editions, where we got a Dark Apostel miniature and all CSM could use it.

Typical.

You wait 22 and a bit years for a new Abaddon, and three turn up at once, all stuffed into the same suit of armour!

And perhaps a hint of new terminator models that come with power swords for a change??