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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
NO BODY CARED WHO I WAS UNTIL I PUT ON THE MASK!

Perhaps he's wondering why you'd shoot a Marine, before throwing him from a Thunderhawk.

Brilliant

GeeDub is going to make so much money off of all of us jaded Chaos bastards, kept waiting for over a decade now. I've come and gone from 40k and sworn I don't have another army in me ... but then they buckle a havok into some new armor and hand him a minigun and I'm remortgaging my house

Strong desire to chop Abby down into a standard termi-lord, at least until the proper termi lord redux slams into our faces.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

 H wrote:
I thought only the Word Bearers had Dark Apostles though?

You must have missed the last 3 Editions, where we got a Dark Apostel miniature and all CSM could use it.

Well, yeah, I actually did miss most of 5th, all of 6th and 7th and have only just started back now with 8th.

My "plan" to make a heavy conversion Word Bearers force looks like it will be in good shape now, just need to file all the eye icons off these new bad boys to start things off.

For those wondering about the size compared with FW's Horus, I cut/pasted this together assuming that they're both on 60mm bases. He looks a little bit bigger than the big H once you take away his staircase.

I wonder what the flying bloated helldrake like things are. Look like drop ships that are just make from existing things but twisted with daemon flesh. Also Nid like.

Over the main ship it looks like giant claws are descending from above the clouds. I'm also not convinced the largest ship is a ship. It might be an arm off of some giant daemonic construct.

Ok well that's all awesome. That guy with the minigun is exactly the model I want for my Crimson Fists, only with more spikes.

I guess that if the chaos release upsets loyalist players that's a feature, not a bug.

 warboss wrote:
For those wondering about the size compared with FW's Horus, I cut/pasted this together assuming that they're both on 60mm bases. He looks a little bit bigger than the big H once you take away his staircase.

Horus was one of the first primarchs. He is a to-scale model with the old plastic and resin Space Marines. Scale creep happened and now he seems too small, even though he was appropriately gigantic compared to the old marine models.

I had to do it - new abby animated:

The last 13 black crusades:

A bit sad we have no insight on the rules. So I have Dark Vengeance, Dark Imperium and soon Shadowspear - is that enough to start a black legion ally deathguard army with Abaddon or Mortarion or both ? I wonder.

Loving fully armed Abbadon. I wonder what on his new size to the FW 30k Horus who might make a good stand in.

Edit: Ninjad by others who had the same idea.

 Latro_ wrote:
I had to do it - new abby animated

Oh man, that hurts to look at. Any chance you can line the eyes up so that he doesn't look like he's bobbing head back and forth at the Roxberry.

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cool model.

It's relatively minor, but it kind of bug me that they made him slightly smaller than a primarch (and we all know that in 40k, size means power). Seems like the new trend with CSM is to make them Loyalist-1

Doesn't seem that ridiculous size wise.

 Gael Knight wrote:


Doesn't seem that ridiculous size wise.

Twice the height of a primaris is not ridiculous ?

WhiteDog wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:


Doesn't seem that ridiculous size wise.

Twice the height of a primaris is not ridiculous ?

He's twice the height on his base, with the stuff he's standing on.

WhiteDog wrote:

 Gael Knight wrote:


Doesn't seem that ridiculous size wise.

Twice the height of a primaris is not ridiculous ?

He is the chosen champion of the the dark gods. Also, he is not twice as tall. If you put the primaris on top of Abaddon and line up their feet so they are on the same level, Abby is not that much taller.

WhiteDog wrote:

Twice the height of a primaris is not ridiculous ?

He's nowhere near twice the height of a Primaris. His base is a huge part of the height difference, and he's wearing Terminator armour.

He'll be taller than a Primaris, but probably only by a head, which doesn't feel too off for a (inferior) Primarch clone.

In a year or so we'll have a non deamon prince Primarch with the height of a Knight.

The fig is gorgeous, but put it next to the old Abaddon just to laugh a little.

I like that someone could just walk up behind him and turn off his Talon of Horus. And he wouldn't be able to turn it back on.

WhiteDog wrote:

Twice the height of a primaris is not ridiculous ?

Are you literally blind?

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that someone could just walk up behind him and turn off his Talon of Horus. And he wouldn't be able to turn it back on.

Guys that did are now part of his trophy rack

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that someone could just walk up behind him and turn off his Talon of Horus. And he wouldn't be able to turn it back on.

 Galas wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that someone could just walk up behind him and turn off his Talon of Horus. And he wouldn't be able to turn it back on.

Spoiler:

OMG!!! Have an Exalt. I'm at work and I almost lost my composure. I'm almost in tears

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Abi looks good - impressive model

CMarine with Rotary Cannon is very nice.

Good to see at least a couple of non Marines on the cover of the supplement - gives a little hope that the contents are not completly marine focussed......

Abaddon is a gorgeous model! I'm loving the new CSM stuff.

Also, the CSM with rotor cannon is explicitly called out as a Havok, which is nice. HBMC can rejoice

I will be interested to see if there are any other new Havok options. I'd expect heavy bolter, autocannon, plasma cannon, missile launcher, and lascannon for sure. Multi-meltas are a possibility. Maybe some kind of warp flamer option?

 Crimson wrote:

WhiteDog wrote:

Twice the height of a primaris is not ridiculous ?

Are you literally blind?

I see your anger tho. Keep cool.

WhiteDog wrote:
In a year or so we'll have a non deamon prince Primarch with the height of a Knight.

The fig is gorgeous, but put it next to the old Abaddon just to laugh a little.

I too would like Vulkan to return

zedmeister wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Oooo, Rotor Cannons returning with an upgrade? Nice

Not to be a jerk but if CSM get assault cannons on devastators before marines do...I'm gonna be really upset.

Rotor Cannons are a crude pre-heresy technology. They're weaker than Assault Cannons. It'd make sense for Chaos Marines to have 'em though:

Spoiler:

Thousand Sons already got rotor cannons too. Marines should have the advantage of the few minor technological advancement, Chaos Marines the advantage of the remnants of Heresy Era technology they've been able to maintain.

Chaos fled into the Eye of Terror with half the Mechanicum and the factory fleets that supported Horus during the Great Crusade. While I'm sure alot of them went crazy, and more only focus on pleasing the dark gods with producing daemon engines... somewhere in that they should have the ability to continue producing the rotor guns, that are lower caliber and less advance than an Assault cannon.

Loyalists shouldn't. They have access to more advance technologies. Even then when it comes to loyalists, there are plenty of logic traps in the 40k setting when you start talking about what Marines should have access to. For example, the Imperium produces enough storm bolters to put on its IG tanks and shipping crates, every loyalist marine could have a storm bolter. Or that even if each IG regiment only had a single plasma gun, that's enough for every last Loyalist marine to have one.

Xenomancers mindset is why chaos can't have nice things; loyalists shouldn't have everything chaos has nor should chaos have everything loyalist do. They should be distinctive and it should be lore driven. Rotor cannons are both. Yay

 aka_mythos wrote:


Thousand Sons already got rotor cannons too. Marines should have the advantage of the few minor technological advancement, Chaos Marines the advantage of the remnants of Heresy Era technology they've been able to maintain.

Dual belt feed - maybe twice the number of shots? H6 S5 AP1 wouldn't be too shabby, but might make the heavy bolter pointless.

 Galas wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I like that someone could just walk up behind him and turn off his Talon of Horus. And he wouldn't be able to turn it back on.

Spoiler:

Literally spit up coffee, hilarious!

OK, so forgetting Abaddon for a second, what about the new Vigilus book? I wonder what formations we will see?

Outside of all the chaos ones, I really hope we see something for Deathwing, but I doubt it.

Games Workshop wrote:... Over the next few weeks, we’ll be guiding you through the best set of releases for Chaos Space Marines ever ....

So a new Abaddon and a few marines then.