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**Latro_**

they banging on about abby history on warhammer tv, its gonna be abby and thats it i bet lol

https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/1243872385770696/UzpfSTE1NzU2ODI0NzYwODU3MTk6MjI1MTQ4NTY3ODUwNTM5Mg/

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

CodeKantorBlue wrote:

"No loyal marine has ever wielded [Weapon_Name_Here]" is a dangerous game. I have a legitmate one-part Rogue Trader era metal marine with a Shuriken catapult on my desk, so all bets are off.

One with the Lasguns crack me up. If those Marine's had read the Inquisitor rulebook, they'd have settled for flinging stones instead. They'd do more damage. Because Inquisitor, RAW, was a very, very odd game! (Marine genuinely did more damage throwing unprimed Krak Grenades than priming them)

**Irbis**

His Master's Voice wrote:
Irbis wrote:
I thought quadruple thruster on back is supposed to be 'quiet' jump pack as opposed to standard, horrendously loud jet pack ones, no?

Well, I was under the assumption that those were part of the whole 'parachute without a parachute' thing they have going on. And two of those thrusters are normal backpack vents. I really don't see how they could count as jetpacks when Inceptors have those huge engine jet harnesses.

No, vents are the 4 square things on the bottom. Round things are zero-g thrusters, there is even early art with marines and IG flying with them:

As for how this works, dunno. Maybe anti-grav plates make marine light enough the four thrusters can lift him for a few seconds?

And Inceptors are not a good counterexample as they are supposed to be able to drop from orbit without help. I'd imagine arresting fall from orbiting cruiser requires rather more energy than jumping from a plane...

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Warhammer tv is live and rambing about Abadon of old https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerTVteam/videos/1243872385770696/?__tn__=%2CdkC-R&eid=ARD9pCqKbgj_9MvRIAIK53vkEtA8PDBY1OO5DOgOCzgW8kPbDAPBex6oJZ_6s3gdu82dCjvMnhxyvAGm&hc_ref=ARQlXYjHW1eWJ6oHz4_OaAaDy_LqCloRGPo70kMdFPR3hCdv2SIuOK7aRHfS1tKaveg

**xttz**

I'm amused that the GOT Season 8 trailer is apparently being released at the same minute as this Abbadon reveal

**Symbio Joe**

**Gidun**

xttz wrote:
I'm amused that the GOT Season 8 trailer is apparently being released at the same minute as this Abbadon reveal

Well, Westeros would be an easy conquest for Abaddon anyway. So who cares about got right now

**zedmeister**

Warhammer Community looking suitably apocalyptic

**GaroRobe**

He's out!

https://warofsigmarus.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture1/3734/40kAbaddon-Mar5-Abaddon7tyerhvfsh.jpg

**Latro_**

3 head options

**Ghaz**

**Kinetochore**

Great Stuff!

Loving the moulded faces on the sword - great for cackhanded painters like me

**Latro_**

also

**GaroRobe**

I feel like he should have an older marine helmet on his spikes. Like, he's never faced a worthy marine until the primaris lieutenants came out?

**Gir Spirit Bane**

... I sold all my old Chaos Space Marines. I am SO BACK into this army with this release! Also the spoiled Chaos Havoc has me drooling, I love me my mini guns!

**zedmeister**

Oooo, Rotor Cannons returning with an upgrade? Nice

**Kinetochore**

Not sure about the masked option though..

**JimmyWolf87**

I can't actually think of anything I dislike about this. Kudos GW. Shows that they can re-work a classic model without going over-board.

**GaroRobe**

Havocs confirmed!!!!!!
His helmet looks weird though. Very elongated in the back

**Xenomancers**

Abaddon is primarch size....but will he have Primarch stats?

**casvalremdeikun**

Latro_ wrote:
also

And the villagers rejoice!

**Xenomancers**

zedmeister wrote:
Oooo, Rotor Cannons returning with an upgrade? Nice

Not to be a jerk but if CSM get assault cannons on devastators before marines do...I'm gonna be really upset.

**Sotahullu**

Holy emperor! That is magnificent!

Oh and there was a picture of an new Havoc...

Well looks like slavery to the False Emperor is gonna end!

**Overread**

The facemask head gives me serious Dark Vader vibes from when his black mask is removed!

**Nostromodamus**

Very nice model. My favorite head is actually the rebreather. Definite Vader vibes there.

**zedmeister**

Xenomancers wrote:
zedmeister wrote:
Oooo, Rotor Cannons returning with an upgrade? Nice

Not to be a jerk but if CSM get assault cannons on devastators before marines do...I'm gonna be really upset.

Rotor Cannons are a crude pre-heresy technology. They're weaker than Assault Cannons. It'd make sense for Chaos Marines to have 'em though:

Spoiler:

**Emperors will**

Gahhh as a non chaos player I want to collect the new stufff.

**Latro_**

Love the model, its not to busy which i was worried about.

whats the wing thing on the base thou?

also.. THE TALON OF HORUS HAS A BIG RED OFF BUTTON XD

**Gael Knight**

Can't wait to see what the new Chaos Terminators look like.

**warl0rdb0b**

I think that havoc head is the same one people have been linking to Obliterators that's been posted in this thread.