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Fun stuff. I wasn't going to go all the way to new mechanics, but I do like the throwback to the old rules: I think they were a strong concept, even if the list was pretty poorly executed on the whole. I mostly don't understand why they charged so much for what were poor quality versions of existing units.

Honestly, the only thing I care about here is Abbadon. Primarch (Guilliman) sized? Chaos? Clone of Horus? Yup. Getting an Abbadon.

Ultimately when they move the timeline forward to the point that all loyalists are pure primaris there won't be any more recently-turned renegades and the problem will go away. Or maybe upon heresy renegades spontaneously unprimarisize for a reason that will go unexplained, just like the autocannons? I guess we'll see.

Probably belongs in the Age of Sigmar thread, but it seems more 40k related.

Looks like Skulltaker stole the skulls of the missing primarchs, and Ferrus Manus to boot.

That cape is so over the top. I love it.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
That cape is so over the top. I love it.

Yeah, its great

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
That cape is so over the top. I love it.

It is definitely Gonzo in a way that fits 40K.

I'm getting two sets of this. I've got schemes on chopping up some of these loyalist models. Gonna make myself a Raptors army.

Anyone got a suggestion for a hooded head? I know I've seen them in some of the Dark Angels armies.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I'm getting two sets of this. I've got schemes on chopping up some of these loyalist models. Gonna make myself a Raptors army.

Anyone got a suggestion for a hooded head? I know I've seen them in some of the Dark Angels armies.

Get the Deathwing knights heads, they are much better in quality than the old DA vet heads and they are proportioned much better too.

I've had this strange desire to start a worldwide project to catalogue and count the number of skulls that have appeared on GW products. I looked at one of the big 40K terrain items and decided against it.

The Dreadhold alone would drive you insane.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Dreadhold alone would drive you insane.

Didn't GW have a contest to guess how many skulls were on it? Did they ever reveal the correct answer?

GaroRobe wrote:


Probably belongs in the Age of Sigmar thread, but it seems more 40k related.

Looks like Skulltaker stole the skulls of the missing primarchs, and Ferrus Manus to boot.

Primarch skulls would be bigger. And only the II matches a missing Primarch, V would be the Khan and IV Perturabo.

I'm hoping that those, "bat-winged creatures," mentioned in the latest vigilus story are going to be possessed of some kind, or at least some sort of new Chaos unit. I do remember in the new BAngel codex, there was an image of BAngel Primaris battling some bat-winged chaos, so perhaps they'll turn out to be something.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I'm hoping that those, "bat-winged creatures," mentioned in the latest vigilus story are going to be possessed of some kind, or at least some sort of new Chaos unit. I do remember in the new BAngel codex, there was an image of BAngel Primaris battling some bat-winged chaos, so perhaps they'll turn out to be something.

Chaos Furies are at this point the only daemon unit without plastic that is not a character, IIRC.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I'm hoping that those, "bat-winged creatures," mentioned in the latest vigilus story are going to be possessed of some kind, or at least some sort of new Chaos unit. I do remember in the new BAngel codex, there was an image of BAngel Primaris battling some bat-winged chaos, so perhaps they'll turn out to be something.

Chaos Furies are at this point the only daemon unit without plastic that is not a character, IIRC.

That story was great and I think there will be flying greater possessed or equivalent.

 zend wrote:
I hope the “leak” of plastic new traitor guard coming in the second wave of chaos goodies had truth to it. The BSF guard models are sooooooo nice and scale perfectly with the new CSM. A couple of them also look like they’re women so that bodes well for people that want lady guard, assuming GW ever gets around to updating them.

Can anyone link or tell us where to find this leak? I’ve looked and can’t find any.
Tbh I think that traitor guard army is big news for chaos if done right this time and with a (dis)loyal 32 it could make chaos very competitive.

I need to see it to believe it though so where is the leak lol

Has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out the Primaris total points wise? How much are we looking at in the box?

 NAVARRO wrote:
Has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out the Primaris total points wise? How much are we looking at in the box?

think it was 700-800 points or there abouts.

BrianDavion wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out the Primaris total points wise? How much are we looking at in the box?

think it was 700-800 points or there abouts.

Thanks. That and the dark imperium primaris and your set with a big part of an army.

 NAVARRO wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out the Primaris total points wise? How much are we looking at in the box?

think it was 700-800 points or there abouts.

Thanks. That and the dark imperium primaris and your set with a big part of an army.

yup. although you'd proably need to shave some points as you've got proably close to 600 points in HQs from those two boxes alone, what with 2 captains, 3 leuitenants, a Librarian and a ancient.

BrianDavion wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out the Primaris total points wise? How much are we looking at in the box?

think it was 700-800 points or there abouts.

Thanks. That and the dark imperium primaris and your set with a big part of an army.

yup. although you'd proably need to shave some points as you've got proably close to 600 points in HQs from those two boxes alone, what with 2 captains, 3 leuitenants, a Librarian and a ancient.

Ancients are Elites, but that doesn't really affect the point.

 Platuan4th wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Has anyone crunched the numbers and figured out the Primaris total points wise? How much are we looking at in the box?

think it was 700-800 points or there abouts.

Thanks. That and the dark imperium primaris and your set with a big part of an army.

yup. although you'd proably need to shave some points as you've got proably close to 600 points in HQs from those two boxes alone, what with 2 captains, 3 leuitenants, a Librarian and a ancient.

Ancients are Elites, but that doesn't really affect the point.

yeah I meant characters rather then HQs but yeah definatly. I'd be curious what the best mix of HQs for a mixed force of normal primaris/vanguard would be.

So no one else has then he leak for traitor guard or know where to get it?

 ulfhednir86 wrote:
So no one else has then he leak for traitor guard or know where to get it?

Traitor guard?

It was just some bloke on 4chan claiming to have an inside source talking about the supposed release schedule for this year saying that traitor guard would come somewhere this year. There's nothing solid really.

Edit: well, besides this I guess: https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/posts/2255935981393695/

Wait what?
Is that real.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Wait what?
Is that real.

You mean the post on the official 40k page? I'm gonna go with yeah

Have they mentioned at all if Abby is going to LoW status? Hopefully he is...

Well, in support of chaos guard, we now have a Chaos Commissar and Chaos Ogryn!

Pics up on the Community site, and on the Blackstone fortress thread.