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Nurglitch wrote: I figured it was Terminators into Mutilators and Havocs into Obliterators, Raptors into Warp Talons, with CSM and Chosen into Possessed and Greater Possessed.
I...really like this train of thought.
Given enough time in the immaterium, every Chaos Marine will eventually either warp into a twisted daemonic version/mirror of it's former self, become a Chaos Spawn or simply die.
Havoc's are more or less CSM who love heavy weapons a little bit too much, and are half-way on their path to "Obliteratordom"
Kinda like how this goes, but I still want to know where the Daemon Princes come from by this logic.
I know about the Chaos Boon strategem + the lore, but what if one CSM(or even a renegade) was so good that he skipped a couple of steps(I.E. single handedly wiped out a Craftworld or successfully got the commoners of a Forge World to turn against the Emperor)?
Eldarain wrote: Sneaky move on GW's part to put an end to the annoying player tendency to use the same Heavy weapon minis in elites/troops/heavy units
One that won't work, since they do mixed base size units in several places already (GSCs, for example) and are generally increasingly random about which base size they assign.
Bases don't matter.
Kinda like how this goes, but I still want to know where the Daemon Princes come from by this logic.
If a mortal Individuum proved himself well enough the god he serves will be raised by him to Daemon Prince, which is a mix of Mortal and Greater Daemon. Not fully mortal any more but also not completely warp identity either
For Obliterators the fluff changed a lot over time, from Chaos Robots over ChaosTechpriests to mutating Havocs.
It is used whatever fits best the current rules
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
Has anyone got a / seen size comparison of the new Terminators compared to the old plastic kit? I can't tell how well the old & new kits would look alongside each other. Thanks
Haighus wrote: It seems like GW is going down the "on their way to becoming Obliterators" route with Havocs. That would suit the larger models and T5.
I liked it better when obliterators were less “big terminators” and more “Oh no I caught the Tetsuo virus… IN SPACE” brand of body horror.
“Oh no I'm an imperial guard/citizen but my body is turning into metal and I cannot really control it anymore! Now I'm desperate and the imperium will shoot on sight so I join chaos ” versus “I am a space marines and I like shooting weapons so much… that my power armor magically transform into a a terminator armor, just a bit bigger though”.
They are. Just not specialized in tanking, that would be the plague marine. The Havocs are specialized in shooting big noisy smelly guns. T5 isn't related to shooting big noisy smelly guns.
Well I guess it's a good thing that Plague Marines are more durable then. So no problem.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
Sotahullu wrote: Can anyone say how big the base on Venom Crawler is? 130mm?
It's a 100mm base.
Bharring wrote: At worst, you'll spend all your time and money on a hobby you don't enjoy, hate everything you're doing, and drive no value out of what should be the best times of your life.
Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Well I guess it's a good thing that Plague Marines are more durable then. So no problem.
Yes, they are just more resistant than normal CSM, Chosens, Berserkers, etc.
So no problems .
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...tis a wonderful time to be a Chaos player. The robed chap on his saturday-morining cartoon robo-spider looks really cool.
So mallex get's to be standalone and the formulation is strange.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/04/07 18:30:23
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
parakuribo wrote: Online: That is very easy. There is a BIG difference between Children of The Abyss and the other legions.
He is a regular BL legion lord though too, just to point that out.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Sotahullu wrote: Okay, so why the chaos lord from BSF is getting tagged on?
From the looks of it BSF seems to have been designed as the first release in the new Chaos range, with Mallax being the new Chaos Marine Lord model. Which is a bit strange as he doesn't have anything in the way of options. The game was essentially an advert for the new range, containing enough models for a small 40K force.
But Mallax is contained on his own, separate sprue making him an easy addition for the new Chaos release schedule.
Mallax was also shown off in the new codex, albeit as a nameless chaos champion with thunder hammer.
For those that like the model, it'll be a nice way to get him without having to pay ebay scalper price. I'm just not too fond of him. He's got the "wot" grandma face, and too many flesh wires all over him. His backpack looks like it'd be a nightmare to paint.
GaroRobe wrote: Mallax was also shown off in the new codex, albeit as a nameless chaos champion with thunder hammer.
For those that like the model, it'll be a nice way to get him without having to pay ebay scalper price. I'm just not too fond of him. He's got the "wot" grandma face, and too many flesh wires all over him. His backpack looks like it'd be a nightmare to paint.
granted if your biggest issue with him is his head that'd be easy eneugh to address yeah?
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GaroRobe wrote: Mallax was also shown off in the new codex, albeit as a nameless chaos champion with thunder hammer.
For those that like the model, it'll be a nice way to get him without having to pay ebay scalper price. I'm just not too fond of him. He's got the "wot" grandma face, and too many flesh wires all over him. His backpack looks like it'd be a nightmare to paint.
granted if your biggest issue with him is his head that'd be easy eneugh to address yeah?
Nope. I'm all for conversions, but his head looks too difficult to easily snip away at.
And you can see from this angle what I'm talking about in reference to the wires. That backpack is 90% wires. Maybe if someone painted it in another legion color scheme, I'd like it better.
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2019/04/07 19:26:29
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
Feel free to post any conversions that you can find of him.
Looking at the 360 spin, it doesn't seem worth the effort. His chest wire connects directly into his head, so you'd need to fix that with greenstuff. Then you'd have to cut away at some of his fur cape, file down the helmet's neck joint, and see if it'd fit. I'm not saying it's impossible. I don't think it's worth the effort.
Would I like him better with the right helmet? Probably. Is it worth buying the model for? Not in my humble opinion.
Edit: This actually does look pretty cool.
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GaroRobe wrote: Mallax was also shown off in the new codex, albeit as a nameless chaos champion with thunder hammer.
For those that like the model, it'll be a nice way to get him without having to pay ebay scalper price. I'm just not too fond of him. He's got the "wot" grandma face, and too many flesh wires all over him. His backpack looks like it'd be a nightmare to paint.
granted if your biggest issue with him is his head that'd be easy eneugh to address yeah?
Nope. I'm all for conversions, but his head looks too difficult to easily snip away at.
And you can see from this angle what I'm talking about in reference to the wires. That backpack is 90% wires. Maybe if someone painted it in another legion color scheme, I'd like it better.
Yea I want to like him but he's basically a tentacle in armour. I'm not sure I will get him.
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