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As I said before, there are varied depictions in the past, because there was no uniform party line on the matter. Some artists depicted them to be more cybernetically enhanced, some less. But the thing is, there is a clear precedent for the plugs and connections, as that is how many artists chose to interpret them. Such depiction were common in studio material, thus to people who are mainly familiar with the faction that way, this doesn't seem to be anything particularly shocking. And that is the interpretation that has now been solidified. So this is not something new, merely clearing a matter which was depicted in a conflicting manner before.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I am sure processional writers are accustomed to criticism.

Criticism is one thing, but just wholesale saying "It doesn't count!" is another.

It is not official GW material, it is licenced material just like the the computer games, Funko Pop marines and Warhammer leggings. Whatever one thinks about the quality of any of those, it is pretty clear that they're no on same level of canonicity than direct GW stuff.

 Crimson wrote:
As I said before, there are varied depictions in the past, because there was no uniform party line on the matter. Some artists depicted them to be more cybernetically enhanced, some less. But the thing is, there is a clear precedent for the plugs and connections, as that is how many artists chose to interpret them. Such depiction were common in studio material, thus to people who are mainly familiar with the faction that way, this doesn't seem to be anything particularly shocking. And that is the interpretation that has now been solidified. So this is not something new, merely clearing a matter which was depicted in a conflicting manner before.

I'm trying to find the 'many' here with your depiction of just one Repentia in one image. That's not a majority. That's not even a significant minority, let alone 'common.


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 Crimson wrote:

It is not official GW material, it is licenced material just like the the computer games, Funko Pop marines and Warhammer leggings. Whatever one thinks about the quality of any of those, it is pretty clear that they're no on same level of canonicity than direct GW stuff.

This argument was slain LONG AGO at hands of none other than Jervis. Yes, they are *just* as canon as any Codex. Direct form GW's mouth. Please keep your Headcanon out of this.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
As I said before, there are varied depictions in the past, because there was no uniform party line on the matter. Some artists depicted them to be more cybernetically enhanced, some less. But the thing is, there is a clear precedent for the plugs and connections, as that is how many artists chose to interpret them. Such depiction were common in studio material, thus to people who are mainly familiar with the faction that way, this doesn't seem to be anything particularly shocking. And that is the interpretation that has now been solidified. So this is not something new, merely clearing a matter which was depicted in a conflicting manner before.

I'm trying to find the 'many' here with your depiction of just one Repentia in one image. That's not a majority. That's not even a significant minority, let alone 'common.

Cover of With Hunter codex. And of course various cybernetics are super common on sisters, starting from the iconic cover of the very first codex.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
I'm trying to find the 'many' here with your depiction of just one Repentia in one image.

We are being trolled. That’s the generous explanation.

 Sarouan wrote:
I remember these pages, where she clearly shows her full legs and arms, and still no sign of plugs.

Spoiler:

She's still strong enough to rip a daemon out of a fellow sister's throat with bare hands, though. Oh and she's wearing a sack too !

Again: so? I'm not claiming that this comic is showing a Sister with cybernetic ports. Other artwork shows Sisters with cybernetic ports. You pointing out that some artist have shown Sister without them doesn't disprove that other artist have depicted them using cybernetic ports. Both depictions of Sisters exist. The idea that Sisters of Battle can't have cybernetic ports because they've never been depicts that way in the past has been proven false, so to continue to argue that point makes no sense. You can argue that you prefer the models without the ports, but to say they can't have them because lore is just dumb at this point.

 Crimson wrote:

Cover of With Hunter codex. And of course various cybernetics are super common on sisters, starting from the iconic cover of the very first codex.

That's like saying they should be common among gaurdsmen because cybernetics are common there. Not all cybernetics are equally common.


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 Manchu wrote:

 BaronIveagh wrote:
I'm trying to find the 'many' here with your depiction of just one Repentia in one image.

We are being trolled. That’s the generous explanation.

I'm at that conclusion too. I'm just gonna block both of them.

Which, hilariously, makes 10 people in the entire history of dakka that I've blocked. They're in good company.

BTW: Should we mention that back in the old days guys like Ross Watson and co actually posted here on dakka? I didn't have people go 'we don't believe you' on the subject of writing gak for anyone when those guys still posted here.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

That's like saying they should be common among gaurdsmen because cybernetics are common there. Not all cybernetics are equally common.

I am sure cybernetic neural connections are very common among all the guardsmen wearing power armour!

Baron, did you know that all Sisters have spikes implanted into their scalps? It’s just that in 99.99999% of the OFFICIAL illustrations you can’t see it.

 EnTyme wrote:


Again: so? I'm not claiming that this comic is showing a Sister with cybernetic ports. Other artwork shows Sisters with cybernetic ports. You pointing out that some artist have shown Sister without them doesn't disprove that other artist have depicted them using cybernetic ports. Both depictions of Sisters exist. The idea that Sisters of Battle can't have cybernetic ports because they've never been depicts that way in the past has been proven false, so to continue to argue that point makes no sense. You can argue that you prefer the models without the ports, but to say they can't have them because lore is just dumb at this point.

I admit that Ephrael Stern is quite "special" as sister, but she's still a sister. And I remember she was full canon at the time Daemonifuge was first out. There was even an official model of her specially edited at a time.

And yeah, at that time, there weren't special plugs showing on her skin for wearing her sister armor. That's just a fact I can't ignore.

Note that I'm not disliking the new repentias. I wouldn't mind a retcon on that matter, and I agree Ephrael Stern is quite old stuff for sisters (and a bit over the top as well, as shown on the pages ).

 Manchu wrote:
Baron, did you know that all Sisters have spikes implanted into their scalps? It’s just that in 99.99999% of the OFFICIAL illustrations you can’t see it.

How did you get the mod tag, again? At this point, you're just trying to entice people to break forum rules.

 Manchu wrote:
Baron, did you know that all Sisters have spikes implanted into their scalps? It’s just that in 99.99999% of the OFFICIAL illustrations you can’t see it.

This definitely feels like something a mod shouldn’t post.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Baron, did you know that all Sisters have spikes implanted into their scalps? It’s just that in 99.99999% of the OFFICIAL illustrations you can’t see it.

This definitely feels like something a mod shouldn’t post.

How is it you've been a member this long without having met Manchu?

My God, wait till he meets some of the other mods. I remember some of the gak brimmy would post on whineseer that makes anything I've seen here look mild.

It’s the same argument being made about PA plugs. There is a piece of art out there that shows a Sister with spikes implanted into her scalp, Therefore, according this logic, all Sisters have always had these same scalp spikes.

It was a BL novel cover though — not sure if “that counts.”

 EnTyme wrote:
How did you get the mod tag, again?

Did he troll his way into the moderation team? Could I troll my way into it? I guess everyone who has an opinion different from my own about the plugs is clearly delusional and should be put to rest by an Inquisitor asap!!! Really, the other side is not intelligent at all! They should know my interpretation is the right one!
(No not gonna tell which interpretation is mine, so it's still Schrödinger insults and I cannot be banned because of it. AH!! What do you say it doesn't work this way?

 Sarouan wrote:
I admit that Ephrael Stern is quite "special" as sister, but she's still a sister. And I remember she was full canon at the time Daemonifuge was first out. There was even an official model of her specially edited at a time.

honestly, i wish they would bring her back. From what i know of Stern, id love to field her. Think they might?

Kal Jericho got a new model. Why not Stern?

Bdrone wrote:

 Sarouan wrote:
I admit that Ephrael Stern is quite "special" as sister, but she's still a sister. And I remember she was full canon at the time Daemonifuge was first out. There was even an official model of her specially edited at a time.

honestly, i wish they would bring her back. From what i know of Stern, id love to field her. Think they might?

There is a definite lack of SoB characters. Though I'd prefer if they did not bring her back as a Dreadnought. Which was a thing once. (Look it up if you doubt me)

Bdrone wrote:

honestly, i wish they would bring her back. From what i know of Stern, id love to field her. Think they might?

I don't think she will come back in the future codex. She was already a controversial character at that time - the way she casually deals with demons and talk about the Chaos gods themselves by name with her fellow sisters was already giving some shudders to Imperium background lovers. But then it's not for nothing she was thought as heretical by the Inquisition in the comic.

But then, with the Great Rift and all daemonic stuff surging around, who knows ? She has a lot of character, after all.

Spike scalps are not a retcon guys. It’s in OFFICIAL art. This is exacty the same argument Crimson has been making.

 BaronIveagh wrote:
There is a definite lack of SoB characters. Though I'd prefer if they did not bring her back as a Dreadnought. Which was a thing once. (Look it up if you doubt me).

Heh, I do remember seeing that! Silly to me, and definitely not something id want in that way. but considering how off the rails things have become, good a time as any for her to get a comeback. that said, i HIGHLY doubt it.

honestly though, if that's what they are palming, i may perk back up about all this.

Holy crap the titanic struggle between the Pro-Imaginary-Neural-Links-Supermans and the Anti-Imaginary-Neural-Links-Gokus is so vital and important that it has pulled me out of retirement to call you all nerds!

Hey if you want to lob more personal attacks at me, please do it on the Nuts & Bolts board. It’s off topic here and will be deleted going forward. Thanks!

I'm fairly certain that, like all arguments involving plastic army men (and women, given the thread topic), this stopped being about lore and models several pages ago.

SO - the takeaway from all of this would appear to be that some people have no issue with the models having power armour connection ports, and others do.

At this point, it's unlikely the models are going to change, and the discussion really doesn't seem to be going anywhere productive, so it's probably time to agree to disagree and move on.

 Triggerbaby wrote:
Holy crap the titanic struggle between the Pro-Imaginary-Neural-Links-Supermans and the Anti-Imaginary-Neural-Links-Gokus is so vital and important that it has pulled me out of retirement to call you all nerds!

Unexpected to find nerds on a wargaming forum . Did you bring some pop-corn?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Unexpected to find nerds on a wargaming forum . Did you bring some pop-corn?

Not worth it, with all the mods around I have to stay on good behavior. There will be no FSM/Doc Thunder style brawls here.

Honestly i'm shocked about the range of topics this thread has shifted from. Size of boobs in Sisters of Battle (imo fist size is probably fine) to sisters in plug suits (i'd prefer less plugs but maybe more inscriptions covering up nudity since GW is family friendly these days) and sometimes we even remain coherent.

You know i tried talking about something that'd make sense like what new units would Sisters get but if you guys want to bicker about such petty things as boob armor and plug suits i can only imagine the rage when the model line actually does get released. Good job guys for showing as much rage for petty things as i had for Warhammer Fantasy dying and GW crapping all over WHFB fans. I can only imagine how tomb kings and bretonnia players felt. In fact the equivalent for you would be Sisters not only not getting new models or lore but 40k dying for a new game set after the end when chaos wins and then the whole Sisters model line being discontinued.

I guess Sisters players right now are being as fanatical, angry and puritanical about plug suits as the Sisters personalities in the actual lore. There's something funny about the comparison.

People care about the things they like and don’t care about the things they don’t like.

But I will agree that any new SoB units will certainly cause a stir at some level.

I'm not exactly insulting anti or pro plug suit people i just think that argument got really petty and overblown.

New Sisters if shown nearly at release date would just cause a massive crap storm the likes of which plug suits would seem like a mere nuisance.

I just find it interesting because you'd think Sisters players would almost be happy to get anything new. I realize you can't get too happy about what you get but being too angry about what you do get is a bit much.

The best part is most people, including myself, actually like or somewhat like the new Repentia figures.