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I love the Bob haircut, but I'm pleased to see there are other styles in these kits.

My only sadness is that I don't think these heads really scale well with Stormcast as I would live to swap between the ranges

angel of death 007 wrote:

 Sersi wrote:
Just click the image for the larger size.
[...pictures...]

They made the old metal ones into plastic basically, Why no redesign? these sisters are iconic but just so dated, sad really. I would love hot nuns with guns, looks like it was a good idea to buy the Raging Heroes stuff now.

Because Adepta Sororitas are not and should not be boring stereotypical oversexualized "hot nuns". If you don't like the premise behind the Sisters of Battle, well, other companies may have the kind of thing you're interested in. But you can hardly be surprised that the thing they weren't before isn't the thing they're now. And thank the Emperor for that.

 vipoid wrote:
That is a gorgeous model. Wish it was a Canoness.

She certainly could be with a bit of work. That's one of the great things about plastics - much easier to modify.

 schoon wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
That is a gorgeous model. Wish it was a Canoness.

She certainly could be with a bit of work. That's one of the great things about plastics - much easier to modify.

So you honestly think there will be rules for a jump-pack Canoness?

 Souleater wrote:
I love the Bob haircut, but I'm pleased to see there are other styles in these kits.

My only sadness is that I don't think these heads really scale well with Stormcast as I would live to swap between the ranges

Depending on your disposition Sisters heads may fit reasonably well on female Sigmarine bodies. They'll be around 75% to 80% of the head size of a female Sigmarine, which may look a little small if you prefer GW's overblown proportions, but may work if you can get behind more realistic proportions.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
But you can hardly be surprised that the thing they weren't before isn't the thing they're now. And thank the Emperor for that.

Repentias didn't get lucky enough to thank the Emperor for anything, unfortunately.

I'm glad that at least normal Sisters maintain their look after the update.

 Crimson wrote:
Well, there is good chance that in the new codex all Canonesses must be armed with a plasma pistol, a power sword and a command stick, so there probably isn't a pressing reason for removing it...

Sadly I think thats all to likely

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

angel of death 007 wrote:

 Sersi wrote:
Just click the image for the larger size.
[...pictures...]

They made the old metal ones into plastic basically, Why no redesign? these sisters are iconic but just so dated, sad really. I would love hot nuns with guns, looks like it was a good idea to buy the Raging Heroes stuff now.

Because Adepta Sororitas are not and should not be boring stereotypical oversexualized "hot nuns". If you don't like the premise behind the Sisters of Battle, well, other companies may have the kind of thing you're interested in. But you can hardly be surprised that the thing they weren't before isn't the thing they're now. And thank the Emperor for that.

Sisters were perfect aesthetically and just needed a technology update and they got that. Things like raging heroes (at least their ridiculous 'battle sisters' that have nonsensical high heels and poses that are hilariously dumb) are porn parody versions of real battle sisters mostly meant for people who can't handle female models they can't fap to.

Hey look on the bright side sisters at least have a reason for conformity. They can write fluff about how saint plaspista sacrificed herself in a flaming pyre so now all canonesses vow to get hot in her memory.

Orks have models that all come with an identical weapon called a "Kustom" weapon, which is always the same and has no customizanility.


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ERJAK wrote:

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

angel of death 007 wrote:

 Sersi wrote:
Just click the image for the larger size.
[...pictures...]

They made the old metal ones into plastic basically, Why no redesign? these sisters are iconic but just so dated, sad really. I would love hot nuns with guns, looks like it was a good idea to buy the Raging Heroes stuff now.

Because Adepta Sororitas are not and should not be boring stereotypical oversexualized "hot nuns". If you don't like the premise behind the Sisters of Battle, well, other companies may have the kind of thing you're interested in. But you can hardly be surprised that the thing they weren't before isn't the thing they're now. And thank the Emperor for that.

Sisters were perfect aesthetically and just needed a technology update and they got that. Things like raging heroes (at least their ridiculous 'battle sisters' that have nonsensical high heels and poses that are hilariously dumb) are porn parody versions of real battle sisters mostly meant for people who can't handle female models they can't fap to.

I personally prescribe to the "if I don't feel a quiver when I look at the tiny 28mm plastic figure, then it ain't a woman."

Luckily given my personal preferences the tervigon provides all the gratification I need.

So don't shame others for their desires! If 007 wakes up sweaty to the idea of hot nuns resolving their high heeled close combat attacks on him on the charge, power to him!

Sorry I stand behind the belief that sex sells, when has anything GW or really any gaming company done that has been for practicality or functionality.

I wasn't looking for them to go full on Raging Heroes style but something, really anything restamping metal molds into plastic ones and then dropping probably a $50 USD pricetag for probably a box of 5 really doesn't say much.

They made people wait along while for this and I honestly feel they are selling the consumer short is all. I mean how many years has passed just to basically transfer over is really an injustice. I could be wrong looking at the pics I have seen maybe there is more to it then that.

If i was a die hard sister lover i would be pretty hurt. Though maybe not so much as i could still use all my other models. Luckily I am a hot nuns with guns kinda guy so let people drop their money on it.

I am betting something over or around $200 USD for the army box and probably around $50 for 5. It's the GW way after all.

If you want sexy nuns with guns, just go to Hitman.

ERJAK wrote:
Sisters were perfect aesthetically and just needed a technology update and they got that. Things like raging heroes (at least their ridiculous 'battle sisters' that have nonsensical high heels and poses that are hilariously dumb) are porn parody versions of real battle sisters mostly meant for people who can't handle female models they can't fap to.

And there just simply couldn't possibly be another reason why people might like those minis, right?

I’m pretty impressed with the results, overall, of this long-winded, drawn-out marketing cam-aign. That army box will be irresistible to me, I reckon.

What concerns me are the rules.
There will always be asecond hand metal sisters if I like the old models more. [Which so far I do.]

angel of death 007 wrote:
I wasn't looking for them to go full on Raging Heroes style but something, really anything restamping metal molds into plastic ones and then dropping probably a $50 USD pricetag for probably a box of 5 really doesn't say much.
If i was a die hard sister lover i would be pretty hurt.

The response from sisters players on the 'restamped' models has generally been positive.
After all the existing style is what people originally bought into, not heels and stripper poses or a shirt and shorts east german shotput team.

angel of death 007 wrote:
Sorry I stand behind the belief that sex sells

Which is a belief that is very often directly contradicted by reality.
Sex only sells sexy stuff, and sexy stuff isn't the thing that sells better.
I mean, how many of those were sold with sex?

angel of death 007 wrote:
If i was a die hard sister lover i would be pretty hurt.

No, if you were a die hard SoB lover, you'd be pretty happy that Sisters are still the Sisters you are a fan of, rather than being transformed into something else that you are not a fan of.

Personally the stuff they decided to change from the metals is what ticked me off, some to far different degrees than others. heck, i was happy with the models they decided to reveal with the box set.. with almost no complaints.

that said. wheres celestians, how will the rules be, and is there anything new model wise is still gonna shape this. not much longer to wait now. can't be certain ill be along for this ride.

angel of death 007 wrote:
Sorry I stand behind the belief that sex sells, when has anything GW or really any gaming company done that has been for practicality or functionality.

angel of death 007 wrote:
I would love hot nuns with guns, looks like it was a good idea to buy the Raging Heroes stuff now.

Maybe GW aren't the right fetish model company for you, dude.

angel of death 007 wrote:
I am not really sure GW knows what women are.

lol

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

angel of death 007 wrote:
Sorry I stand behind the belief that sex sells

Which is a belief that is very often directly contradicted by reality.
Sex only sells sexy stuff, and sexy stuff isn't the thing that sells better.
I mean, how many of those were sold with sex?

angel of death 007 wrote:
If i was a die hard sister lover i would be pretty hurt.

No, if you were a die hard SoB lover, you'd be pretty happy that Sisters are still the Sisters you are a fan of, rather than being transformed into something else that you are not a fan of.

It's even more ridiculous that this is being said about GW, a company known for both being really bad at "sexy", and having sales based almost entirely on rule of cool.

I am glad I decided to stop by this thread today. Angel of death 007 makes me feel alive.

To flip it on its head, if GW were to release new Space Marines (No Primaris jokes please) that completely flipped their aesthetic on their head, gave them bare muscled arms and each one a high fashion haircut (No Shrike jokes either), and a slightly more prominent codpeice, the majority of people would be up in arms.

I'm not saying they can't be a little creative with the redesign to the Sisters, but they should stick within the parameters of what makes a Sister a Sister. I'm glad they don't seem to be walking around in improbable bionic heels. I'm happy they haven't got an impractical sized chest and an anatomically incorrect waist.

I think a telling sign that people prefer the Sisters to maintain their original style is looking back to the absolute insanity that was the Repentia reveal. People were losing their minds that the Repentia were not barefoot, not naked, not covered in all sorts of questionable and probably bondage paraphernalia. And ultimately they hadn't even changed THAT much about the aesthetic. If they went Hitman-nuns-with-guns on the rest of the release, could you imagine the community backlash.

Not to mention, like it or not, GW is a family business. Hooker chic female soldiers probably aren't going to be well received by little Timmy's Mother. In today's society, a company as large as GW shouldn't open themselves up to that sort of public backlash.

TLDR: Don't try and fix something that isn't broken, and sweeping assumptions can be wrong.

 ghosty wrote:
I am glad I decided to stop by this thread today. Angel of death 007 makes me feel alive.

To flip it on its head, if GW were to release new Space Marines (No Primaris jokes please) that completely flipped their aesthetic on their head, gave them bare muscled arms and each one a high fashion haircut (No Shrike jokes either), and a slightly more prominent codpeice, the majority of people would be up in arms.

I'm not saying they can't be a little creative with the redesign to the Sisters, but they should stick within the parameters of what makes a Sister a Sister. I'm glad they don't seem to be walking around in improbable bionic heels. I'm happy they haven't got an impractical sized chest and an anatomically incorrect waist.

I think a telling sign that people prefer the Sisters to maintain their original style is looking back to the absolute insanity that was the Repentia reveal. People were losing their minds that the Repentia were not barefoot, not naked, not covered in all sorts of questionable and probably bondage paraphernalia. And ultimately they hadn't even changed THAT much about the aesthetic. If they went Hitman-nuns-with-guns on the rest of the release, could you imagine the community backlash.

Not to mention, like it or not, GW is a family business. Hooker chic female soldiers probably aren't going to be well received by little Timmy's Mother. In today's society, a company as large as GW shouldn't open themselves up to that sort of public backlash.


TLDR: Don't try and fix something that isn't broken, and sweeping assumptions can be wrong.

Remember when PETA generated media interest by asking GW to sculpt less fur and animal hides onto their models?

 ghosty wrote:
In today's society, a company as large as GW shouldn't open themselves up to that sort of public backlash.

What company should open themselves to any sort of public backlash?

I'd suggest that there are plenty of public backlashes that are fine to open yourself to. McDonald's shouldn't worry about backlash from PETA because PETA don't enjoy cheesed cow grindings on bread.
Gillette should worry about a backlash from men because men historically were the target demographic for their shaving products.

alphaecho wrote:

Remember when PETA generated media interest by asking GW to sculpt less fur and animal hides onto their models?

Turns out vegan hippies weren't buying a lot of tabletop battle games about oppressive human supremacist regimes that kill all the things.

 ghosty wrote:
I think a telling sign that people prefer the Sisters to maintain their original style is looking back to the absolute insanity that was the Repentia reveal. People were losing their minds that the Repentia were not barefoot, not naked, not covered in all sorts of questionable and probably bondage paraphernalia.

The problem with repentia is that nothing about them matches the sisters original style, or current style, or indeed any style. They have gym clothes, marine-style plugs, and no aesthetic connections to the rest of the line or existing imagery other than the odd fluer-de-lys. If GW had released them without the iconography as necromunda models or failed marine initiates no-one would have been the wiser.

angel of death 007 wrote:
I mean how many years has passed just to basically transfer over is really an injustice.

What you've missed is that the time passed is precisely so that the existing designs could be transferred to plastic.

The studio (or specifically Jes Goodwin) has always been staunchly against the idea of redesigning sisters, and they've said as much on multiple occasions. And until now, the technology GW were using just wasn't up to rendering this design in plastic.

We're getting plastic sisters now precisely because GW can now produce plastic models that look like the metal ones.

 insaniak wrote:
The studio (or specifically Jes Goodwin) has always been my against the idea of redesigning sisters, and they've said as much on multiple occasions. And until now, the technology GW were using just wasn't up to rendering this design in plastic.

Given the recent reveal, I wonder if that same approach applies to Jes' Aspect Warrior designs?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
The studio (or specifically Jes Goodwin) has always been my against the idea of redesigning sisters, and they've said as much on multiple occasions. And until now, the technology GW were using just wasn't up to rendering this design in plastic.

Given the recent reveal, I wonder if that same approach applies to Jes' Aspect Warrior designs?

None of the Aspects have anything particularly tricky, design-wise... ultimately, they're all just variations on the standard Guardian design with added bling, and in some cases slightly heavier armour. My guess there would be that Jes was opposed to dual kits to avoid homogenising the designs, and that none of the Aspects would have sold particularly well since 2nd edition, so pushing that many different plastic kits past the bean counters would have been tricky. Their time has come now with whatever it is that's allowed GW to ramp up their plastic production so drastically in the last couple of years. So now that they've shown that they're clearly not dropping the Aspect concept, I wouldn't be surprised to see the other Aspects following along in the near future. That's all just a guess, though.

 insaniak wrote:
None of the Aspects have anything particularly tricky, design-wise... ultimately, they're all just variations on the standard Guardian design with added bling, and in some cases slightly heavier armour.

I wasn't really considering any of the designs to be tricky in the same way Sisters garb is, but more the designs themselves are considered 'sacred' in a sense, in that if they're going to remake them then they're going to look exactly what they should look like.

I always thought it was interesting that after they changed the design of Aspects in 3rd Ed (some more than others, like the Reapers) they immediately went back to more 2nd Ed styles when they did them again in, I think, 4th or 5th.

I think it's more than Jes being opposed to dual kits (although I see your point there, however much I'd like them to redo the 6 Aspects in 3 boxes).

Or it could just be, like you said, that with their increased plastics tech they can actually dedicate some time to updating older kits into better plastic kits rather than just doing new things (the Chaos player in me is very happy about that - I waited for those plastic Flesh Hounds for years!).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

I always thought it was interesting that after they changed the design of Aspects in 3rd Ed (some more than others, like the Reapers) they immediately went back to more 2nd Ed styles when they did them again in, I think, 4th or 5th.

I might be misremembering the timeline, but the switch back in style would have been about when Gary Morley left and Jes took over the oversight of the sculptors, wouldn't it?

The 3rd ed Aspects were mostly done by Juan Diaz, who was trained by Morley and initially mimicked his style.


But yes, I certainly agree that any eventual plastic designs were destined to stick fairly closely to Jes' originals, whatever the actual reason for them taking so long to do it.

 =Angel= wrote:

Turns out vegan hippies weren't buying a lot of tabletop battle games about oppressive human supremacist regimes that kill all the things.

I'm sure they were. Most vegan hippies just understand the difference between reality and fiction.

 Crimson wrote:

 =Angel= wrote:

Turns out vegan hippies weren't buying a lot of tabletop battle games about oppressive human supremacist regimes that kill all the things.

I'm sure they were. Most vegan hippies just understand the difference between reality and fiction.

Maybe so, but between fictional depiction and fictional endorsement? A less common skill alas. I remember being actually stunned into silence hearing one such individual ranting about the Starship Troopers movie being pro-fascist propaganda

 Yodhrin wrote:
Maybe so, but between fictional depiction and fictional endorsement? A less common skill alas.

What's an incredibly rare skill among "pop culture geek" people, though, is understanding the difference between when someone is talking about something you love and when someone is using something you love to talk about something else, entirely unrelated, and what you love isn't criticized, it's just used an excuse to talk about something else.
Scoop: PETA never cared about whether or not 40k models have fur on them. They just wanted to use 40k as an excuse to start a conversation about real life fur.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 =Angel= wrote:

Turns out vegan hippies weren't buying a lot of tabletop battle games about oppressive human supremacist regimes that kill all the things.

I'm sure they were. Most vegan hippies just understand the difference between reality and fiction.

Maybe so, but between fictional depiction and fictional endorsement? A less common skill alas. I remember being actually stunned into silence hearing one such individual ranting about the Starship Troopers movie being pro-fascist propaganda

Judging by the tone of the interviews given by some of the cast at the time of release, they were oblivious to the satire of Verhoeven's take and were convinced it was some serious type of commentary.