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A little disappointing that we only have one generic HQ.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
I've got zero interest in the Sisters as an army...

...but I'm really trying to find a way to get my hands on a lot of that decorum they come with- stained glass and statues and the like. I've been wanting to make Shrine World terrain, or at least a decent-sized 3x3 Cathederal battlefield for some time.

if it helps the sisters rhino looks to be a standard rhino with an upgrade sprue, so that MIIIIGHT be your best bet, ( I'm assuming, given your name you play some type of space marine)

Yeah, hopefully. Been looking at making a Hellforged Scorpius anyway, I could probably find the Rocket system pretty easily.

 Melissia wrote:
A little disappointing that we only have one generic HQ.

True, but at the same time you've now got almost an entire unique HQ selection in plastic. Most races are the other way around, their good looking generic is plastic and their awesome looking unique are all finecast. So I don't think Sisters can complain "too" much.

 Overread wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
A little disappointing that we only have one generic HQ.

True, but at the same time you've now got almost an entire unique HQ selection in plastic. Most races are the other way around, their good looking generic is plastic and their awesome looking unique are all finecast. So I don't think Sisters can complain "too" much.

I'm not sure why that would matter, to be honest.

The lack of HQs is a lack of HQs. 'But special characters are in plastic' doesn't change anything.

Especially when special character is faction locked. Needing special characters to make legal battallions suck

Well zero purchases for me week 2 so guess a win?

Unless I'm mistaken a lot of special characters are HQ choices at the same time? Plus its more likely GW will release a generic HQ in plastic in the future [esp one that might have alternative builds[ to further the army than a unique character

 Overread wrote:
True, but at the same time you've now got almost an entire unique HQ selection in plastic

But none of them are generic aside from the canoness. And they don't have one for my Order's faction, at that.

 Overread wrote:
Unless I'm mistaken a lot of special characters are HQ choices at the same time? Plus its more likely GW will release a generic HQ in plastic in the future [esp one that might have alternative builds[ to further the army than a unique character

Well yes they are hq choices. But depending on special characters, one being order locked and one needing big army to support, isn't fun.

And yes canoness is likely coming eventually but when? Logically she would be first so you could build legal armies but now she's week 3 earliest and sisters have 3 plastic characters, all special characters, 1 order locked, one sucks at smaller points.

 Melissia wrote:

 Overread wrote:
True, but at the same time you've now got almost an entire unique HQ selection in plastic

But none of them are generic aside from the canoness. And they don't have one for my Order's faction, at that.

Yeah I don't know what they were smoking making the chariot a specific order. It's got extra heads, so there's no reason we couldn't have had a generic version. Heck if you're worried about it being spammed limit it to one per detachment like the missionary.

I guess it proves GW doesn't push every single model? Given how most players will never buy it since they're not able to run it with their ordo

Also the only plastic priest is locked into an expensive box set, and none of the priests seem super tightly themed in with the rest of the army despite being HQs.

The Adeptus Ministorum generics like Missionarie and Arco-Flagellants don't get Order Convictions, so I don't consider them for my army. Doesn't really fit aesthetically either.

changemod wrote:
Also the only plastic priest is locked into an expensive box set, and none of the priests seem super tightly themed in with the rest of the army despite being HQs.

I'm still completely baffled as to why they haven't sold the BSF Explorers separately. They've done it with everything else.

 Melissia wrote:
The Adeptus Ministorum generics like Missionarie and Arco-Flagellants don't get Order Convictions, so I don't consider them for my army. Doesn't really fit aesthetically either.

Partially true, but definitely worth noting that (assuming you aren’t taking Celestine in a list) you can evade two generals syndrome with a priest, especially if you convert a female priest using a few sister components, and she’d give a pretty good buff to any melee units you might be running.

Just treat it as a chaplain equivalent who can’t take power armour.

changemod wrote:
Just treat it as a chaplain equivalent who can’t take power armour.

Except chaplains get chapter tactics and are officially a part of their chapter. I like a consistent looking army, not a freakshow..

 Melissia wrote:

changemod wrote:
Just treat it as a chaplain equivalent who can’t take power armour.

Except chaplains get chapter tactics and are officially a part of their chapter. I like a consistent looking army, not a freakshow..

Christ, stop being picky, this is the largest army release from gw in years, they obviously can't cover all bases at once and 2-3 minor variations of a canoness profile wasnt a priority.

The generic hq will turn up but the kits aren't even out yet, who will seriously buy, assemble and paint a 2k army in the 3-4 weeks the release takes?

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

changemod wrote:
Also the only plastic priest is locked into an expensive box set, and none of the priests seem super tightly themed in with the rest of the army despite being HQs.

I'm still completely baffled as to why they haven't sold the BSF Explorers separately. They've done it with everything else.

You mean just the sprue of characters? Good question. Though they haven't done it with the Ambull or the Chaos Commissar & Ogryn either. And the latter would be nice but aren't even vaguely worth it at $60.

sisters definatly needed a second HQ, especially as you're limited to one missionary per army IIRC, that's gonna make rule of 3 kinda annoying if you wanna run several detachments.

Voss wrote:
You mean just the sprue of characters? Good question. Though they haven't done it with the Ambull or the Chaos Commissar & Ogryn either. And the latter would be nice but aren't even vaguely worth it at $60.

You're correct. And even for Blackstone Fortress, those boxes' value is questionable. The Ogryn and Commissar are pretty fun in Kill Team, though.

Relax. This next weeks preorders just leaves the Cannoness, Imagifier, Dialogus, Seraphim/Zephyrim, Repentia/Repentia Superior, Sororities Rhino, Immolator and Battle Sanctum for the following week. That's still a pretty full week for a three week release.

Dudeface wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

changemod wrote:
Just treat it as a chaplain equivalent who can’t take power armour.

Except chaplains get chapter tactics and are officially a part of their chapter. I like a consistent looking army, not a freakshow..

Christ, stop being picky, this is the largest army release from gw in years, they obviously can't cover all bases at once and 2-3 minor variations of a canoness profile wasnt a priority.

The generic hq will turn up but the kits aren't even out yet, who will seriously buy, assemble and paint a 2k army in the 3-4 weeks the release takes?

Also it’s almost like I directly suggested converting a priest that looks more directly in line with the faction aesthetic and you just cropped that bit out for no reason.

I honestly couldn’t give less of a crap if a cheap buffing HQ with a chainsword doesn’t get chapter tactics.

Dudeface wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

changemod wrote:
Just treat it as a chaplain equivalent who can’t take power armour.

Except chaplains get chapter tactics and are officially a part of their chapter. I like a consistent looking army, not a freakshow..

Christ, stop being picky, this is the largest army release from gw in years, they obviously can't cover all bases at once and 2-3 minor variations of a canoness profile wasnt a priority.

The generic hq will turn up but the kits aren't even out yet, who will seriously buy, assemble and paint a 2k army in the 3-4 weeks the release takes?

I plan to assemble the 2k army minus the 3 models i can't buy in 1 day. Paint takes time but guess what? Game has no rule requiring paint. Game does require models to play and withoutg playing models are just oversized paperweights


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 alextroy wrote:
Relax. This next weeks preorders just leaves the Cannoness, Imagifier, Dialogus, Seraphim/Zephyrim, Repentia/Repentia Superior, Sororities Rhino, Immolator and Battle Sanctum for the following week. That's still a pretty full week for a three week release.

Who says they come next week either?

Assembling 2K models in one day?! Even with brand new sculpts that's a freaking long day with all the mould line cleaning to achieve.

Dudeface wrote:
Christ, stop being picky

I've been quite positive about the release thus far, actually. Am not gonna take crap from you about the one area I've criticized them on so far. Get over yourself. It's a reasonable criticism.

whatever our issues can we all just be glad this isn't going to be stretched out like the Marines release?

Dudeface wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

changemod wrote:
Just treat it as a chaplain equivalent who can’t take power armour.

Except chaplains get chapter tactics and are officially a part of their chapter. I like a consistent looking army, not a freakshow..

Christ, stop being picky, this is the largest army release from gw in years, they obviously can't cover all bases at once and 2-3 minor variations of a canoness profile wasnt a priority.

The generic hq will turn up but the kits aren't even out yet, who will seriously buy, assemble and paint a 2k army in the 3-4 weeks the release takes?

It wouldn't have been hard to give decent variation in the army. I don't think I'm being unreasonable to want to have more than 1 hq within my army and its theme especially considering said theme is literally just having a Sisters army.

 Melissia wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Christ, stop being picky

I've been quite positive about the release thus far, actually. Am not gonna take crap from you about the one area I've criticized them on so far. Get over yourself. It's a reasonable criticism.

It’s pretty reasonable to class being annoyed priests don’t get chapter tactics as picky.

SIsters are nun themed, nuns and monks don’t do priest work, therefore having a directly related but out of convent preacher follow them about is directly related and thematic, even if the aesthetic maybe needs work.

changemod wrote:
It’s pretty reasonable to class being annoyed priests don’t get chapter tactics as picky.

No, it's not. "Priests" (or, rather, "Missionaries", the HQ variant) aren't members of the Adepta Sororitas, and I am playing an Adepta Sororitas army. Stop being unreasonable.

I don't think it's unreasonable to want to play pure adeptus soritus, I mean, christ GW went out and specificly gave sisters a sisters specific pentient engine in the form of the mortificer. woulda been nice if they gave sisters a second HQ, especially given the missionary is limited to one per detachment. some sort of sisters Leuitenant is really needed IMHO.

BrianDavion wrote:
I don't think it's unreasonable to want to play pure adeptus soritus, I mean, christ GW went out and specificly gave sisters a sisters specific pentient engine in the form of the mortificer. woulda been nice if they gave sisters a second HQ, especially given the missionary is limited to one per detachment. some sort of sisters Leuitenant is really needed IMHO.

Aye, a Lt. equivalent would've been handy - or, as previously noted, a generic version of the Battle Pulpit.

 Melissia wrote:

changemod wrote:
It’s pretty reasonable to class being annoyed priests don’t get chapter tactics as picky.

No, it's not. "Priests" (or, rather, "Missionaries", the HQ variant) aren't members of the Adepta Sororitas, and I am playing an Adepta Sororitas army. Stop being unreasonable.

This seems a bit like being mad Blood Thirsters can't be pyskers like other greater deamons and that means there's no way to get psychic powers into a pure Khorne army. Half the Sororitas specialists don't get chapter tactics, and many of them are irrelevant to these models anyway.

You want to use part of the army list, then sure. But you can't complain about lack of options when you're not taking some of the options. Especially as you can rank "Canonesses" with WL traits and relics, or combinations of the two. The "one to watch" is literally the one you pick to use the strat whilst your warlord hangs back and takes more of a supportive/stat boosting role.

Mortifiers also aren't Sisters and also don't get Order Convictions. A Repentia who has redeemed herself but still feels unworthy to fight alongside her erstwhile sisters seems the ideal candidate for a missionary to accompany a 'pure' sisters army.
She wants to fight one last time for her Order before settling down on the world she's saved, or they've come back at her request on hearing her cry for help via the old Sororitas back channels.