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The best way to please everyone would be to come up with an Aeldari name for the unit that roughly translates to Striking Scorpion. Like how imperial guard are astra militarium, storm troopers are tempestus scions, and so on. Keep the original unit, just with a nice trademarkable name

I wouldn’t be too surprised if Craftworld Aeldari go the way of tiny marines and get ignored in favour of new Ynnari miniatures as the timeline shifts.

GaroRobe wrote:
The best way to please everyone would be to come up with an Aeldari name for the unit that roughly translates to Striking Scorpion. Like how imperial guard are astra militarium, storm troopers are tempestus scions, and so on. Keep the original unit, just with a nice trademarkable name

I didn't get the impression that pleased everyone...

I actually prefer tempestus scions over strormtroopers. Stormtroopers make me think of Vader’s posse.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I actually prefer tempestus scions over strormtroopers. Stormtroopers make me think of Vader’s posse.

I agree; while I think changing the name of the Imperial Guard wasnt the best, the move from storm troopers to Tempestus Scions was a good one IMO.

regarding an an eldar re-release, I personally think it's coming. we've heard a rumor awhile back that GW wants to phase out finecast, I don't belive this is gonna be 100% true (the new female comissar was finecast) but it strikes me as likely they'll wanna reduce it to at least character blister packs only.

if so CWE are gonna need a pretty major relaunch. I'm expecting the chaos relaunch to start towards the end of amrch and continue through april, May might be vanguard marines assuming GW doesn't put them out along side chaos, (my poor poor wallet)

so we've got the big summer months which will proably be something special, but I could see a MAJOR eldar wave in september. September typically sees some pretty chunky releases.

BrianDavion wrote:
so we've got the big summer months which will proably be something special, but I could see a MAJOR eldar wave in september. September typically sees some pretty chunky releases.

Well, Eldar are on Vigilus, right? It would make sense.

Then, I think something else will happen, maybe more Chaos stuff (Slaanesh maybe?) and then it will be a big Sisters release to "save" the planet.

 H wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
so we've got the big summer months which will proably be something special, but I could see a MAJOR eldar wave in september. September typically sees some pretty chunky releases.

Well, Eldar are on Vigilus, right? It would make sense.

Then, I think something else will happen, maybe more Chaos stuff (Slaanesh maybe?) and then it will be a big Sisters release to "save" the planet.

Eldar are on vigilus yeah and have already gotten "formations" they seem to be playing a smallish role so I dunno seems unlikely itll expand. the most obvious faction missing from Vigilus that I could see ariving for a book 3 would be the Necrons TBH

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
I think they'd probably do a kit that had striking scorpions, with a crazy new name, but also include different weapons load outs, with completely new weapon types. So people who already have striking scorpions have to buy new ones. Like with the wraithguard.

More likely they'll just forget about aspect warriors, and any new eldar will be brand new from a brand new sub-faction.

I think a plausible option is for new plastic Aspects to be duel kits that build the original unit, and an Ynnari version. That would be a good way to remove finecast options, replace iconic models, but also expand the new Aeldari faction (which currently has a unique model lineup of three...).

 Insane Ivan wrote:
I think the Kill Team covers are somewhat exempt from the “GW art should only show representations of models exactly as sold”, as the White Scar captain on the cover of Commanders isn’t an actual model either:

That looks like standard plastic SM commander, the generic multipart one.

So...we’re at 45 mins til the next reveal, right?

1:45

It’s currently 17:17, and showtime is 19:00

U.K. time.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So...we’re at 45 mins til the next reveal, right?

1hr 45m

I'm hoping with these staggered announcements we'll see something for AT, it was conspicuously absent from yesterdays list.

GW already said that they haven't started work on plaspects and even if they had it'll take years to get them done. I think expecting new Aspect Warriors, particularly of existing kits is a bit of a pipe dream at this point. In addition I don't really understand why so many people want them? Most/all Eldar players probably have all the Aspect Warriors they'll ever need, some converted, some older models, some fail cast. GW don't want to make new models that people already own. They want to maximise profits.

It's unlikely GW will release the same units recast imo, more likely is that they launch new Aspect Warrior types that give Ynarri more character and more depth as a faction.

With regards to launches generally, 40k is getting the limelight at the moment with all the Chaos/Vanguard releases. I'd expect the focus to shift to AOS for a bit after that probably returning to Sisters when they are ready to be launched.

 Irbis wrote:

 Insane Ivan wrote:
I think the Kill Team covers are somewhat exempt from the “GW art should only show representations of models exactly as sold”, as the White Scar captain on the cover of Commanders isn’t an actual model either:

That looks like standard plastic SM commander, the generic multipart one.

The body and pose, yes, but not the head. I don’t think GW currently produces such a White Scar head, except for maybe some metal bits (and hence not part of the Primaris Captain kit).

But GW has released new plastics of resin models for years - heck most of the current line of models are re-releases of previous metal/plastics.

IT makes far more sense for them to release new Eldar models that are copies of the old rather than retire most of the range (bad marketing for existing gamers if that is their concern). Why throw away all that marketing when they can just re-release those models in updated plastic sculpts.

If you look at most armies that have had updates over the years most gamers who are currently active (ergo current customers) often upgrade to new designs even if they've got old models in abundance. Marines are prime example where gamers end up getting more new marines rather than just leaving their army done and dusted.

Plus if GW were to retire all the old designs for finecast from Eldar that's basically ALL the infantry save for the old guardians which also need an update. Ergo its not just one or two units its a vast proportion of them with some very iconic units in there which have years of marketing and black library stories and computer games behind them.

You can bet that new sculpts of warpsiders, striking scorpions etc.... would get snapped up like crazy! All it needs is for GW to give them the attention and have room in the schedual for the moulds to be made and stock to be cast .

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
GW already said that they haven't started work on plaspects and even if they had it'll take years to get them done. I think expecting new Aspect Warriors, particularly of existing kits is a bit of a pipe dream at this point. In addition I don't really understand why so many people want them? Most/all Eldar players probably have all the Aspect Warriors they'll ever need, some converted, some older models, some fail cast. GW don't want to make new models that people already own. They want to maximise profits.

It's unlikely GW will release the same units recast imo, more likely is that they launch new Aspect Warrior types that give Ynarri more character and more depth as a faction.

With regards to launches generally, 40k is getting the limelight at the moment with all the Chaos/Vanguard releases. I'd expect the focus to shift to AOS for a bit after that probably returning to Sisters when they are ready to be launched.

Why would you believe them? It has taken less than two years to get Plastic sisters ready for a 2020 release. Time isn't a big deal, if they can make money off it, they'll jump start it quickly.

Plus GW is literally about to release a new multipart plastic CSM squad, which surely every Chaos player already has plenty of already...?

These updates are also targeted at new players- I've held off on starting Chaos and Eldar armies entirely because of the ancient kits composing most of the model lines! I am sure I am not alone in this.

 Togusa wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
GW already said that they haven't started work on plaspects and even if they had it'll take years to get them done. I think expecting new Aspect Warriors, particularly of existing kits is a bit of a pipe dream at this point. In addition I don't really understand why so many people want them? Most/all Eldar players probably have all the Aspect Warriors they'll ever need, some converted, some older models, some fail cast. GW don't want to make new models that people already own. They want to maximise profits.

It's unlikely GW will release the same units recast imo, more likely is that they launch new Aspect Warrior types that give Ynarri more character and more depth as a faction.

With regards to launches generally, 40k is getting the limelight at the moment with all the Chaos/Vanguard releases. I'd expect the focus to shift to AOS for a bit after that probably returning to Sisters when they are ready to be launched.

Why would you believe them? It has taken less than two years to get Plastic sisters ready for a 2020 release. Time isn't a big deal, if they can make money off it, they'll jump start it quickly.

2019. Emperor willing!

How To Sell New Plastic Aspect Warriors.

By Mad Doc Grotsnik. Aged 38 and 10/12th.

Step 1. Release plastic Aspect Warriors.

Step 2. Potentially include new weapons for each Aspect (for instance, the Shuriken Pistols aren’t, so far as I’m aware, Ritual Weapons tied to the Aspect). This introduces new options. This means Existing Eldar Players will likely invest as well.

Please note that Step 2. is entirely optional.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
How To Sell New Plastic Aspect Warriors.

By Mad Doc Grotsnik. Aged 38 and 10/12th.

Step 1. Release plastic Aspect Warriors.

Step 2. Potentially include new weapons for each Aspect (for instance, the Shuriken Pistols aren’t, so far as I’m aware, Ritual Weapons tied to the Aspect). This introduces new options. This means Existing Eldar Players will likely invest as well.

Please note that Step 2. is entirely optional.

Step 3. Name the new weapon options something ridiculous because it's "thematic".

Well, ain’t gonna hurt sales any

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
GW already said that they haven't started work on plaspects and even if they had it'll take years to get them done. I think expecting new Aspect Warriors, particularly of existing kits is a bit of a pipe dream at this point. In addition I don't really understand why so many people want them? Most/all Eldar players probably have all the Aspect Warriors they'll ever need, some converted, some older models, some fail cast. GW don't want to make new models that people already own. They want to maximise profits.

It's unlikely GW will release the same units recast imo, more likely is that they launch new Aspect Warrior types that give Ynarri more character and more depth as a faction.

With regards to launches generally, 40k is getting the limelight at the moment with all the Chaos/Vanguard releases. I'd expect the focus to shift to AOS for a bit after that probably returning to Sisters when they are ready to be launched.

Well lets see, reasons why people would want plastic Aspects:

1. They're an Eldar player who started more recently and could never bring themselves to buy the older models(which plenty of people think are great, but are undoubtedly of a different style to GW's modern output).
2. They're an Eldar player who has loads of oldschool Aspects and likes them, but wants them to better match the "modern" miniatures in scale and proportion.
3. They're an Eldar player who has loads of oldschool aspects and doesn't particularly care for them.
4. They're a non-Eldar player who have some interest in starting an Eldar collection, but are put off by the fact that a substantial portion of their range, including many of their most thematically important sculpts, are ancient and don't match the modern style & scale.


I've never bought the idea that "just redoing the same kits over and over" is a terrible idea that won't make GW any money - it worked great for them for years & years, and I don't believe it would ever have stopped working, their woes were due to other issues. Also, we're constantly told that us crusty grogs are a tiny unimportant minority and that most GW customers come in, stick around buying stuff for a couple of years, and then wander off into the sunset, so if that's true how will redoing models where appropriate to match tech advancements and stylistic shifts cause any issues? Joe Twoyears walking into a GW for the first time isn't going to know if the plastic kit he's buying in the more modern style was released one year ago or five or twenty, and surely such customers are more likely to buy updated versions than ancient neglected ones.

I suspect you're correct that they'll be focusing on Ynnari going forward, but I don't believe it's a financial necessity or even merely just driven by financial motivations, I think they'll do that because they're presently endeavoring to soft-reboot 40K, and a "new" Eldar faction can be more easily molded to fit the Rogue Trader-esque sensibilities that are currently en vogue in the studio.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
GW already said that they haven't started work on plaspects and even if they had it'll take years to get them done. I think expecting new Aspect Warriors, particularly of existing kits is a bit of a pipe dream at this point. In addition I don't really understand why so many people want them? Most/all Eldar players probably have all the Aspect Warriors they'll ever need, some converted, some older models, some fail cast. GW don't want to make new models that people already own. They want to maximise profits.

It's unlikely GW will release the same units recast imo, more likely is that they launch new Aspect Warrior types that give Ynarri more character and more depth as a faction.

With regards to launches generally, 40k is getting the limelight at the moment with all the Chaos/Vanguard releases. I'd expect the focus to shift to AOS for a bit after that probably returning to Sisters when they are ready to be launched.

Well lets see, reasons why people would want plastic Aspects:

1. They're an Eldar player who started more recently and could never bring themselves to buy the older models(which plenty of people think are great, but are undoubtedly of a different style to GW's modern output).
2. They're an Eldar player who has loads of oldschool Aspects and likes them, but wants them to better match the "modern" miniatures in scale and proportion.
3. They're an Eldar player who has loads of oldschool aspects and doesn't particularly care for them.
4. They're a non-Eldar player who have some interest in starting an Eldar collection, but are put off by the fact that a substantial portion of their range, including many of their most thematically important sculpts, are ancient and don't match the modern style & scale.


I've never bought the idea that "just redoing the same kits over and over" is a terrible idea that won't make GW any money - it worked great for them for years & years, and I don't believe it would ever have stopped working, their woes were due to other issues. Also, we're constantly told that us crusty grogs are a tiny unimportant minority and that most GW customers come in, stick around buying stuff for a couple of years, and then wander off into the sunset, so if that's true how will redoing models where appropriate to match tech advancements and stylistic shifts cause any issues? Joe Twoyears walking into a GW for the first time isn't going to know if the plastic kit he's buying in the more modern style was released one year ago or five or twenty, and surely such customers are more likely to buy updated versions than ancient neglected ones.

I suspect you're correct that they'll be focusing on Ynnari going forward, but I don't believe it's a financial necessity or even merely just driven by financial motivations, I think they'll do that because they're presently endeavoring to soft-reboot 40K, and a "new" Eldar faction can be more easily molded to fit the Rogue Trader-esque sensibilities that are currently en vogue in the studio.

And to be honest as others have said, is in AoS were they are doing the "Just new stuff all the time" in regards to new models. In 40k most of the new kits, with the exception of primaris, have been actually redoing of old kits. Plague Marines, new Slaanesh and Khorne demons, now New Chaos SPace Marines with new Abaddon, New Obliterators, New basic CSM, etc... All things point to GW redoing Aspect Warriors in plastic when they start redoing Eldar. When will that happen? Thats another matter.

 Togusa wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
GW already said that they haven't started work on plaspects and even if they had it'll take years to get them done. I think expecting new Aspect Warriors, particularly of existing kits is a bit of a pipe dream at this point. In addition I don't really understand why so many people want them? Most/all Eldar players probably have all the Aspect Warriors they'll ever need, some converted, some older models, some fail cast. GW don't want to make new models that people already own. They want to maximise profits.

It's unlikely GW will release the same units recast imo, more likely is that they launch new Aspect Warrior types that give Ynarri more character and more depth as a faction.

With regards to launches generally, 40k is getting the limelight at the moment with all the Chaos/Vanguard releases. I'd expect the focus to shift to AOS for a bit after that probably returning to Sisters when they are ready to be launched.

Why would you believe them? It has taken less than two years to get Plastic sisters ready for a 2020 release. Time isn't a big deal, if they can make money off it, they'll jump start it quickly.

I think they would state something to 'please the crowd' if it were an option.

I suspect Plastic Sisters were started some time ago. They've just lined up their release with the results of a community survey to show how they're "listening". It's all good marketing really. Letting Eldar players know, pretty bluntly, that nothing has started is not good marketing.

I suspect there's a lot more designed and rejected for one reason or another than we ever know

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I suspect there's a lot more designed and rejected for one reason or another than we ever know

very likely so, even if just lunch time conversation peices. "so hey tim remember how we got talking about Squats? if we ever where asked to remake them this is kind of what I'd be thinking of"

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
How To Sell New Plastic Aspect Warriors.

By Mad Doc Grotsnik. Aged 38 and 10/12th.

Step 1. Release plastic Aspect Warriors.

Step 2. Potentially include new weapons for each Aspect (for instance, the Shuriken Pistols aren’t, so far as I’m aware, Ritual Weapons tied to the Aspect). This introduces new options. This means Existing Eldar Players will likely invest as well.

Please note that Step 2. is entirely optional.

Lol I'm going to guess you aren't in sales?

Releasing the same plastic aspects that are currently available in finecast is not as attractive a proposition as releasing, say, an entirely new Aspect type. Though some diehards will buy them the market is smaller than for new products because people already own them and some, possibly many, will opt not to re-purchase. My main gaming partner collects Eldar and he has flat stated there is no way he'd buy a load of Aspect warriors if they were re-done in plastic, not only has he already got the models but they are already painted, they have sentimental value through using them in games and some are conversions that he values more than stock models. Not always the case but for every person who has this feeling GW has lost a sale.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Well lets see, reasons why people would want plastic Aspects:

1. They're an Eldar player who started more recently and could never bring themselves to buy the older models(which plenty of people think are great, but are undoubtedly of a different style to GW's modern output).
2. They're an Eldar player who has loads of oldschool Aspects and likes them, but wants them to better match the "modern" miniatures in scale and proportion.
3. They're an Eldar player who has loads of oldschool aspects and doesn't particularly care for them.
4. They're a non-Eldar player who have some interest in starting an Eldar collection, but are put off by the fact that a substantial portion of their range, including many of their most thematically important sculpts, are ancient and don't match the modern style & scale.


I've never bought the idea that "just redoing the same kits over and over" is a terrible idea that won't make GW any money - it worked great for them for years & years, and I don't believe it would ever have stopped working, their woes were due to other issues. Also, we're constantly told that us crusty grogs are a tiny unimportant minority and that most GW customers come in, stick around buying stuff for a couple of years, and then wander off into the sunset, so if that's true how will redoing models where appropriate to match tech advancements and stylistic shifts cause any issues? Joe Twoyears walking into a GW for the first time isn't going to know if the plastic kit he's buying in the more modern style was released one year ago or five or twenty, and surely such customers are more likely to buy updated versions than ancient neglected ones.

I suspect you're correct that they'll be focusing on Ynnari going forward, but I don't believe it's a financial necessity or even merely just driven by financial motivations, I think they'll do that because they're presently endeavoring to soft-reboot 40K, and a "new" Eldar faction can be more easily molded to fit the Rogue Trader-esque sensibilities that are currently en vogue in the studio.

Ah perhaps you're right. I get why some people would want new Aspect sculpts but I also think there is a contingent as above in my response to MDG. Personally I was amazed to find when I returned to 40k that the sculpts still used for Warp Spiders are identical to those used when I was 11 or 12 years old 20 odd years ago.

This said, I wouldn't be as surprised to see Shining Spears and the Avatar recast.They are a joke in terms of age and also very efficient units. GW has a habit of updating units it makes particularly efficient. Ork buggies were made very competitive not long before the new ones were launched.

Note that with units that are remade they tend to come with new weapon options/drastically different stats that encourage sales or they are new models entirely. The Ork buggies, new rotor cannon CSM marine, venomcrawler thing, new obliterators, new primaris marines, greater possessed, even the new Primarneus Calgar model had new stats to differentiate him from the old. This might be a more realistic way new aspects sculpts are launched.

I suppose we'll know soon enough for GAMA either way.

Traitor Guard expansion for Blackstone Fortress:

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New Blackstone Fortress stuff.

Renegade Ogryn and Comissar.