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JWBS wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
It does seem like they're capitalizing on the corona excuse mixed with Brexit to really jack up the prices across the board for a lot of the games they give. The mega bommer and some of the AA platforms for AI are just as bad.

Where have they excused price rises with Covid and Brexit? Are you not just conflating (and adding to) the usual forum ramblings with official GW press/communications?

Yeah GW doesn't need to explain itself when their water carriers invent excuses for them.

 DaveC wrote:

and sides 3 and 4 of the board pack the squares are square in these images (someone messed up the preview image)

I was really on the fence about this release, but I love the dungeon seeing and I have to say, this convinced me, despite the price increase in the new Core Box. Buying it in UK and selling off the Core Book will make it worth it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Where have they excused price rises with Covid and Brexit? Are you not just conflating (and adding to) the usual forum ramblings with official GW press/communications?

Where do they excuse price increasing? It's a miracle when they even talk about prices, let alone the direction they're going.

I dunno, I haven't seen them speak on prices for a decent while. The last one I remember was early 2019 where they said "Great news, most of our range is staying at the same price, and only a few things are increasing, and it's all stuff that has been flat for years" (all proven false / mostly false by subsequent analysis from a news site, Spikey Bits or someone like that), which is why I was asking where they've blamed price increases (higher initial price relative to previous release, in this case) on Covid and Brexit.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Davor wrote:
Back to Kirbynomics again. Less product and pay more. So GW is back to targeting only a select few again. So no longer smoke and mirrors now eh? Smoke seems to be long gone now. Just the mirrors are left.

But they have a Facebook page! And put up funny comics on their website!!!

Which is nice, but it's an 'actions speak louder than words' case. I personally think the community engagement will only buy them so much leeway and they are well exceeding that.

It is funny, though. I remember you had made this comment four years ago and I disagreed with it, for the same reason I am agreeing with it now. How times change.

I'll be waiting for the dungeon terrain to come out separately later. And if not...oh well, nevermind, it's not like there is no dungeon terrain elsewhere on the market.

The maps are nice, sure, but they're not especially astounding as well. There are plenty of generic dungeon maps like those elsewhere, honestly - and much more modular, should I add.

Sarouan wrote:
I'll be waiting for the dungeon terrain to come out separately later. And if not...oh well, nevermind, it's not like there is no dungeon terrain elsewhere on the market.

The maps are nice, sure, but they're not especially astounding as well. There are plenty of generic dungeon maps like those elsewhere, honestly - and much more modular, should I add.

My plan is to have a pure lava mat printed on neoprene, and make modular platforms and bridges to jump between.

Sarouan wrote:
I'll be waiting for the dungeon terrain to come out separately later. And if not...oh well, nevermind, it's not like there is no dungeon terrain elsewhere on the market.

The maps are nice, sure, but they're not especially astounding as well. There are plenty of generic dungeon maps like those elsewhere, honestly - and much more modular, should I add.

Yeah I am the same re the minis -I reallty like them but I don't need them or the terrain at the moment. Hopefully they will be boxed.

Plus way too many waiting to be painted.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Which is nice, but it's an 'actions speak louder than words' case.

The comment you replied to was't meant as an argument in GW's favour. It was more of a mockery of the typical excuses we hear.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It is funny, though. I remember you had made this comment four years ago and I disagreed with it, for the same reason I am agreeing with it now. How times change.

I'm just ahead of the curve. Knew you'd come around eventually.

H.B.M.C. is all of our future versions. Even Kan's.

Having easy access to a 25% discount, REALLY liking both factions and planning to use the Khainites in AoS (their warscroll is actually really good for DoK) is why I'm buying the box. If any ONE of those had changed I likely would have passed on it but with all of them together it is JUST worth the 166.95 USD I paid. I don't consider it any kind of bargain.

There's no reason the box couldn't have been 150-175 USD. Not with only having 2 warbands and some extremely sparse terrain.

going with the standard discount for a decent price I won't look at it until it is 50% off (25% standard discount and another 25 to be down on the price it should have been in the first place)

but it is a funny thing, some people nearly talked me into Warcry some time ago, as the rules are good, game is fun and cheap and I don't have that much AoS stuff so the new Warbands were not that bad
at the same time somone else was complaining a lot about KoW Armada as that Box is too expensive for what you get and while he would like to start the game 90€ is definitely out of the price range one should buy for a 2 player starter box were an "army" only has 5-10 miniatures
a week later we saw the Warcry Box for 160€

so I will wait and see what is going to happen with Warcry, usually it is the 3rd Edition/re-print/box were GW starts to mess things up so I can see getting the game for cheap in 1-2 years when people start selling their stuff

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The comment you replied to was't meant as an argument in GW's favour. It was more of a mockery of the typical excuses we hear.

because the guy who makes the comics and maintain the facebook page needs to be paid as well, so of course stuff need to get more expensive to cover that costs

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Which is nice, but it's an 'actions speak louder than words' case.

The comment you replied to was't meant as an argument in GW's favour. It was more of a mockery of the typical excuses we hear.

I know, I was meaning that while the community stuff is nice it does not make up for the prices and questionable nature of certain releases. A response to the excuse, in agreement with your sentiment.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It is funny, though. I remember you had made this comment four years ago and I disagreed with it, for the same reason I am agreeing with it now. How times change.

I'm just ahead of the curve. Knew you'd come around eventually.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Sarouan wrote:
I'll be waiting for the dungeon terrain to come out separately later. And if not...oh well, nevermind, it's not like there is no dungeon terrain elsewhere on the market.

The maps are nice, sure, but they're not especially astounding as well. There are plenty of generic dungeon maps like those elsewhere, honestly - and much more modular, should I add.

My plan is to have a pure lava mat printed on neoprene, and make modular platforms and bridges to jump between.

Shaped like couches, love seats, recliners and coffee/end tables.

This warcry set is insanely priced.

Raising prices the same year pandemic sent the world economy into the 2nd great depression in 20 years sounds insane to you? It' the last chance to scalp us before we all become (maybe working) poor.

They raised the price so stuff will be less likely to sold out on their webstore within 24hr, good guy GW.

They're thinking of the stockists, no doubt. The $170 USD starters were likely heavier AND the local store had to sell five of them to equal the price of selling just four of the new sets at $210 USD. Less space taken up and each one sold brings in almost 25% more than the first starter set.

They're thinking of the stockists?

That's a new one.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're thinking of the stockists?

That's a new one.

only if it helps their bottomline

To them they allready earn more if they sell at a higher price, if the stockist can't sell them then so be it

Well, it’s pricy for sure.

But the faction boxes are a good Saving (in the world of gw anyway).

Kharadron is £40 for what £55 of models, and it has all the tokens cards or whatever Warcry uses.
Orruks only looks £8 cheaper than £44 separately.
Haven’t done the other two, but Skaven does have a lot of models! Not ones I like at all, but there is a lot..

I keep holding out hope that one day, this forum will realize that things are priced at what people will pay for them. Don't like the price? Don't buy it. I know I won't.

 EnTyme wrote:
I keep holding out hope that one day, this forum will realize that things are priced at what people will pay for them.

Don't hold your breath.

 EnTyme wrote:
I keep holding out hope that one day, this forum will realize that things are priced at what people will pay for them. Don't like the price? Don't buy it. I know I won't.

Too bad consumer boycott doesn't work in any meaningful way.

I'm hopeful the starter wont sell so that the boxes get split up between the individual warbands that much faster.

It would be nice if they get the hint that this is too much for too little, but I suspect we wont know that until 2021.

GW were pretty fast with the last Warcry box; we didn't wait too long to see those things on individual sale.

 EnTyme wrote:
I keep holding out hope that one day, this forum will realize that things are priced at what people will pay for them. Don't like the price? Don't buy it. I know I won't.

I keep holding out hope that one day, people who keep saying this will realize that different people will (!) pay different amounts for the same item. And I know it is in vain, but I hope that they will realize that people will (!) discuss those amounts on a forum dedicated to the topic. Alas, my expectations are basically demanding superhuman feats of reasoning.









Sarcastic hyperbole, if that wasn't obvious.

Cronch wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I keep holding out hope that one day, this forum will realize that things are priced at what people will pay for them. Don't like the price? Don't buy it. I know I won't.

Too bad consumer boycott doesn't work in any meaningful way.

You're assuming my intention is to change how GW does business. I'm not conceited enough to believe I'm in any way important enough to do that. Let GW sell overpriced models to fools who are easily parted from their money. I have enough left in my backlog to paint anyway.

NinthMusketeer wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I keep holding out hope that one day, this forum will realize that things are priced at what people will pay for them. Don't like the price? Don't buy it. I know I won't.

I keep holding out hope that one day, people who keep saying this will realize that different people will (!) pay different amounts for the same item. And I know it is in vain, but I hope that they will realize that people will (!) discuss those amounts on a forum dedicated to the topic. Alas, my expectations are basically demanding superhuman feats of reasoning.

I'm addressing the segment of this forum who are constantly pushing this narrative that GW is some evil entity trying to exploit its customer base by raising prices. GW is just another corporate entity looking to turn a profit. They're just charging what people are willing to pay. If you're not willing to pay that price, then don't.

Someone really needs to set up a “GW pricing thread”. Enough. With. The. Pricing. Discussion. This. Is. Not. A. Forum. For. Amateur. Economists.

How has this thread gone on for a week without anyone figuring out if there are any hints of new factions in the new book? Back to rumours and speculation, pretty pretty please.

aloisriegl wrote:
Someone really needs to set up a “GW pricing thread”. Enough. With. The. Pricing. Discussion. This. Is. Not. A. Forum. For. Amateur. Economists.

How has this thread gone on for a week without anyone figuring out if there are any hints of new factions in the new book? Back to rumours and speculation, pretty pretty please.

Because right now its still on pre-order. People who have bought into it don't yet have the models/box/game/rules to play with an entice them into further discussion.

aloisriegl wrote:
Someone really needs to set up a “GW pricing thread”. Enough. With. The. Pricing. Discussion. This. Is. Not. A. Forum. For. Amateur. Economists.

How has this thread gone on for a week without anyone figuring out if there are any hints of new factions in the new book? Back to rumours and speculation, pretty pretty please.

Considering pricing is part of the news related to this release, I’d say people are free to discuss it. If you feel so inclined to have a GW pricing thread, maybe start one?

When all this stuff is out there will be a lot more to discuss.