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Oof Tome of Champions on top of 4 "codexes" is pretty greedy.

Interesting that this time,
it is Japan which get the wrong end of the stick for the Direchasm release...

** Sadly, due to an unforeseen delay in these difficult times, hobbyists in North America will have to wait another week before you can pre-order these books.

WarCry Tomes rundown

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oof Tome of Champions on top of 4 "codexes" is pretty greedy.

It is a bit but I mean, you don't need them *all*. I am on a GW book downer at the moment, Blood Angels 2020 is the first blood angels codex ever that I will not buy, but these don't trigger me too much. I plan to get Order, Chaos, and the Tome of Champions book and ignore the death/destruction ones.

I don't need them all. But I want them all!

Interested but need to know more about the contents - what is covered and what is not, is there any new interesting background

 Mr Morden wrote:
Interested but need to know more about the contents - what is covered and what is not, is there any new interesting background

Agreed. Tome of Champions 2019 was worth it to me since I wanted the Fighter cards. With the Grand Alliance Tomes, Tome of Champions 2020 probably won't have any, save White Dwarf articles reprints. So at the moment, the only stuff that interests me is the Shadowstalker box, although the Sylvaneth looks good too.

Prices (Destruction and Death are smaller books) UPDATED

Tome of Champions 2020 £20 €25 $35
Agents of Chaos £20 €25 $35
Sentinels of Order £20 €25 $35
Harbingers of Destruction £15 €20 $25
Bringers of Death £15 €20 $25

Sylvaneth £45 €60 $75
Legions of Nagash £36 €47.50 $60
Scions of the Flame £32.50 €42.50 $55
Khainite Shadowstalkers £32.50 €42.50 $55

Dice sets £16 €21 $27

 DaveC wrote:
Prices (Destruction and Death are smaller books)

Tome of Champions 2020 £20 €25 $30
Agents of Chaos £20 €25 $30
Sentinels of Order £20 €25 $30
Harbingers of Destruction £15 €20 $25
Bringers of Death £15 €20 $25

Sylvaneth £45 €60 €75
Legions of Nagash £36 €47.50 $60
Scions of the Flame £32.50 €42.50 $55
Khainite Shadowstalkers £32.50 €42.50 $55

Dice sets £16 €25 $30

Have you got the Underworlds prices?

Warcry Warbands are £2.50 up on the others. Not a big difference, but still GW is pushing up those prices.
Note that's the two new warbands not the Sylvaneth and Nagash ones which are a different kind of band and made with existing kits.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Have you got the Underworlds prices?

EDIT: added to Underworlds thread

 Overread wrote:
Warcry Warbands are £2.50 up on the others. Not a big difference, but still GW is pushing up those prices.

No surprise, gotta inflate the value of Catacombs somehow. Actually I expected +£5

 DaveC wrote:
Prices (Destruction and Death are smaller books)

Tome of Champions 2020 £20 €25 $30
Agents of Chaos £20 €25 $30
Sentinels of Order £20 €25 $30
Harbingers of Destruction £15 €20 $25
Bringers of Death £15 €20 $25

Sylvaneth £45 €60 $75
Legions of Nagash £36 €47.50 $60
Scions of the Flame £32.50 €42.50 $55
Khainite Shadowstalkers £32.50 €42.50 $55

Dice sets £16 €25 $30

Not that i'm complaining, but why are death and destruction a fiver cheaper?

They have half the page content 64 pages vs 112

Whew, those prices are not as bad as they could have been.

Correction on the US book prices should be $35 not $30

 DaveC wrote:
Prices (Destruction and Death are smaller books)

Tome of Champions 2020 £20 €25 $35
Agents of Chaos £20 €25 $35
Sentinels of Order £20 €25 $35
Harbingers of Destruction £15 €20 $25
Bringers of Death £15 €20 $25

Sylvaneth £45 €60 $75
Legions of Nagash £36 €47.50 $60
Scions of the Flame £32.50 €42.50 $55
Khainite Shadowstalkers £32.50 €42.50 $55

Dice sets £16 €21 $27

$5 price hike for the OG bands

Fantastic.

If you want to know what you should expect from the bands in the Warcry battletomes, here is what I got a few time ago from the Warcry Reddit before it was wiped out by the mods :





The main change is that they include AoS heroes as potential leaders in their band faction. They also separate abilities in two tables : one for the "generic troopers" and one specifically for leaders. Makes it easier to read since the leader rune is sometimes a bit confusing with the elite one...also, since the number of leaders for all AoS factions is considerably higher than, said, the bands made specifically for Warcry, it's better that way.

The index also hints for allies and mercenaries rules, I wouldn't be surprised if the new system allows to pick leaders from other bands in the same battletome as allies / mercenaries. That would make even more sense about the clear separation between leader profiles and "normal grunts" profiles.

Really happy and excited to see the 'mercenary' heroes be made into hero options. That feels like how it should be. Separating out a different table for leader abilities is also a great move, happy to see that as well. The hand of Bottle continues to guide Warcry in good directions!

Sidenote: Anyone else disappointed by the weakness of the revenant statline? The points cost is appropriate but they should be better than dryads, not worse. Instead we have tree-revenants being worse than the average human grunt.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Sidenote: Anyone else disappointed by the weakness of the revenant statline? The points cost is appropriate but they should be better than dryads, not worse. Instead we have tree-revenants being worse than the average human grunt.

Warcry has its own logic, I guess. What is strong in AoS isn't automatically strong in Warcry, and the opposite is also true.

Role of tree-revenants in Warcry is clear : being cheap troops who can occasionnally go for objectives (their triple effectively allows them to be redeployed when they're needed).

They have less attacks than dryads certainly because their miniature only holds one weapon and they have less wounds because...they're looking like elves ? Oh well, we'll have to deal with their profile as it is written anyway.

New preview for Hedonites of Slaneesh:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/04/gaze-into-the-future-with-the-shardspeaker-of-slaanesh/




I have to say the Shardspeaker is top notch... I really need to pick that up. Way better than the Scinari Cathallar....

they're REAL nice model.

Good stuff nice mini I hope a lot of the new Hedonite mortals make it into the Agents of Chaos book ahead of their release. Ash Barker should have a review in the morning so hopefully we’ll see then.

Where have we seen bull style helmets before ?

Is it just me, or does the wording of the article suggest that the Agents of Chaos book is going to include all of the relevant unreleased Hedonite units?

Certainly would make sense, given that they're supposed to be dropping in January, but I might also just be projecting

These guys will fit in well with warcry. The soothsayer and the Dread Pageant all have matching symbols and shoulder pads.

Speaking of which, is this a guy or a girl? The model makes me think its a dude, which makes his high heeled shoe funny. But the artwork seems more femine, but also masculine. Whoever sculpted knows how to make Slaanesh followers

 DaveC wrote:
Good stuff nice mini I hope a lot of the new Hedonite mortals make it into the Agents of Chaos book ahead of their release. Ash Barker should have a review in the morning so hopefully we’ll see then.

Book goes up for preorder on the 12th in the US/CAN, so he might not have a review copy.

Where have we seen bull style helmets before ?

Buffalo and bulls have different styles of horns.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Book goes up for preorder on the 12th in the US/CAN, so he might not have a review copy.

EDIT: only ToC is delayed according to the Sunday preview

If you’re in North America, you’ll have to wait a little longer to get your hands on the Tome of Champions – it should be available to pre-order in the US and Canada on the 12th of December.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/29/the-sunday-preview-warbands-of-the-mortal-realms/

 GaroRobe wrote:
Speaking of which, is this a guy or a girl? The model makes me think its a dude, which makes his high heeled shoe funny. But the artwork seems more femine, but also masculine. Whoever sculpted knows how to make Slaanesh followers

Based on their chest, gonna have to assume they're a woman

 Tim the Biovore wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Speaking of which, is this a guy or a girl? The model makes me think its a dude, which makes his high heeled shoe funny. But the artwork seems more femine, but also masculine. Whoever sculpted knows how to make Slaanesh followers

Based on their chest, gonna have to assume they're a woman

Its Slaanesh so likely to have one breast regardless of original/primary gender?

So no Soulblight in Warcry :(

It's slaanesh mortal, not slaanesh chaos warrior/demon who'd has mutation.