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All I know is...I will likely never use it LOL

Re-release of Devlan mud??!

Two or three marketing mentions is hardly ‘too much hype’. They’ve made a silly, fun video. People are acting like they’ve hired a plane and are skywriting CONTRAST everywhere. The route to disappointment starts with expectations (and forum chatter amplifying things). Just relax and see what it is! As others have said, it’s pretty hard to innovate putting paint on Small Grey Doods so it will likely be a rebadged something else that’s already out there. And there’s nowt wrong with that tbh.

It will be GW's take on a quickshade but with nanomachines in it that eat 3rd party bits and models.

 H wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
It seems close to how I remember the color.

Unfortunately it's not exact. I ordered some from InStar and I still have a couple old pots and the Granite is a fair bit darker without a doubt. At least as far as me or any camera I can find can tell...

It's as close as we could possibly get, with less than a 1% error margin and without having the original pigment recipe to work with (For obvious reasons) we had to do the best we could. Without the original paint, it will never be exact.

When the colours are painted side by side, the difference can be noticable, but if you're going for tabletop quality and painting on our IV-02 onto seperate models, I think people would be very hard pressed to tell the difference.

At the end of the day, once Charadon Granite runs out....that's pretty much it....



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Also, If this is a new Quickshade, we have what we call "Heavy" washes, these have a higher pigmentation than other washes on the market so you can get that preshading as well as still being able to use it as a normal wash with a small amount of thinning.

But we'll wait and see

BTW when is the festival where this can be tried on(aka when we finally learn what it is)?

And what on earth was so good about granite paint? Never used it myself. For what kind of things it was used for? I have heard lots of "wish it was still on sale" comments but never having used it have no idea what it is.

 Jadenim wrote:
Re-release of Devlan mud??!

Ah to get a whiff of that stuff again...

I could imagine they would do a new range of paints similar to nighthaunt gloom and hexwraith flame.
Something they will claim gives shades and highlights in 1 stroke.

I call dips.

Seriously, three pages in and nobody phrased it like that? I am disappoint.

I don't have a clue what this might be, but I'm always down for more skill in a bottle.

tneva82 wrote:
BTW when is the festival where this can be tried on(aka when we finally learn what it is)?

And what on earth was so good about granite paint? Never used it myself. For what kind of things it was used for? I have heard lots of "wish it was still on sale" comments but never having used it have no idea what it is.

Warhammer Fest is May 11 and 12, two and a half weeks out.

I occasionally use Charadon Granite as a base for rock and tarmac. I don't claim to understand colors well, but if I had to describe it, I'd say it's dark olive with a touch of grey. It serves me well as a base color for various shades of grey.

Does it serve as a base for 50 shades of grey by any chance?

Possibly, but I'm too busy with... scientific exploration... to count.

tneva82 wrote:
BTW when is the festival where this can be tried on(aka when we finally learn what it is)?

May.

And what on earth was so good about granite paint? Never used it myself. For what kind of things it was used for? I have heard lots of "wish it was still on sale" comments but never having used it have no idea what it is.

Charadon Granite was a great base to work from for painting black. It wasn't actually a black paint but it was a very dark olive-grey that made painting flat black a hell of a lot more interesting and less time consuming.

I wonder if they've developed a spray with white and black pigments where the black particles are heavier so they migrate to the underside and the white stays on top? That would definitely be a great foundation for lots of "Contrast". Basically a one step zenithal priming.

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Instar are reverse engineering from old paint rather than being the manufacturer of the original range like Coat D'Arm, but their stuff is pretty good

(I've got my fingers crossed their new Scorched Brown will be close enough as mine is down to the last gunge at the bottom of the pot)

If you've not tried it yourself have a go as the paints seem to be closer than the on screen colours suggest (I wonder if some of them dry a slightly different colour than they are when wet, and the on screen stuff is based on wet paint?)

I'm in no way trying to disparage the paint, it's good paint, no doubt.

Supershandy wrote:It's as close as we could possibly get, with less than a 1% error margin and without having the original pigment recipe to work with (For obvious reasons) we had to do the best we could. Without the original paint, it will never be exact.

When the colours are painted side by side, the difference can be noticable, but if you're going for tabletop quality and painting on our IV-02 onto seperate models, I think people would be very hard pressed to tell the difference.

At the end of the day, once Charadon Granite runs out....that's pretty much it....

Well, again, I am really not trying to disparage your brand, it likely is the "closest" one could get on the market right now. And the paint itself is good quality and the price is good as well, even shipped to the US.

 H wrote:

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Instar are reverse engineering from old paint rather than being the manufacturer of the original range like Coat D'Arm, but their stuff is pretty good

(I've got my fingers crossed their new Scorched Brown will be close enough as mine is down to the last gunge at the bottom of the pot)

If you've not tried it yourself have a go as the paints seem to be closer than the on screen colours suggest (I wonder if some of them dry a slightly different colour than they are when wet, and the on screen stuff is based on wet paint?)

I'm in no way trying to disparage the paint, it's good paint, no doubt.

Supershandy wrote:It's as close as we could possibly get, with less than a 1% error margin and without having the original pigment recipe to work with (For obvious reasons) we had to do the best we could. Without the original paint, it will never be exact.

When the colours are painted side by side, the difference can be noticable, but if you're going for tabletop quality and painting on our IV-02 onto seperate models, I think people would be very hard pressed to tell the difference.

At the end of the day, once Charadon Granite runs out....that's pretty much it....

Well, again, I am really not trying to disparage your brand, it likely is the "closest" one could get on the market right now. And the paint itself is good quality and the price is good as well, even shipped to the US.

Oh we know you weren't and apologies if we came across differently.

Thanks for the mention as well about the shipping costs, we always try to work on the prices whenever we can

 Geifer wrote:

I occasionally use Charadon Granite as a base for rock and tarmac. I don't claim to understand colors well, but if I had to describe it, I'd say it's dark olive with a touch of grey. It serves me well as a base color for various shades of grey.

I used it for the basecoat and edges of my bases for my Dark Elves. Made for a good starting point for the grim rock of Naggaroth.

Dropper bottles maybe

MackiMac wrote:
Dropper bottles maybe

I wish. More so than dip or an airbrush, I think dropped bottles would be great. I'm tired of transferring my citadel paints into dropper bottle so it'd be great if they were available like that off the jump.

The big question is whether the Citadel Contrast/not-Quickshade will be water based or oil based, otherwise The Army Painter will remain king. Oil washes are an order of magnitude superior to water washes, so they'd have to perform some scientific wizardly if that's the case.

Das_Ubermike wrote:

MackiMac wrote:
Dropper bottles maybe

I wish. More so than dip or an airbrush, I think dropped bottles would be great. I'm tired of transferring my citadel paints into dropper bottle so it'd be great if they were available like that off the jump.

We have a large number of 1:1 matched GW shades in our store in both the Main line and Vintage lines in Dropper bottles of various sizes from 5ml to 100ml.

Though I doubt GW are going to change their production lines anytime soon, putting it into dropper bottles involves a little more work than you think compared to just putting it into a pot with a lid you can seal shut

 insaniak wrote:
The first line of that does sound though like they're trying to get in a reminder that they did it first before the GW product drops.

Ya, it's like the world had never heard of Minwax Polyshades.

And if it is a dip (or markers), don't underestimate the ability to have Contrast the same colours as the rest of the Citadel line. Not a big deal for "serious" painters, but as Charadon Granite shows matching colours is still a big thing.

I would guess dip or airbrush.
But I don't care if it ends up being a useless overpriced product or anything else, as it gave us two really funny videos and that's enough to make me happy.

I'd love to see em do dropper bottles, but at the same time the lazier painter in me also likes the little pots too

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
The return of Charadon Granite.

Alas, if only it could be...

I severly doupt Airbrush.
Any painter who is seriously looking into Airbrushing will look elsewhere and not bother with the Citadel Finebrush or something.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I severly doupt Airbrush.
Any painter who is seriously looking into Airbrushing will look elsewhere and not bother with the Citadel Finebrush or something.

Rubbish. There's nothing on the hobby side that GW sell that isn't available elsewhere for either less money or with higher quality. Yet somehow there's clearly sufficient demand for massively overpriced PVA glue and white spray paint.

Perhaps nobody who's "seriously" looking for an airbrush will buy one, but there'd be a bunch of people who would.

Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.

With a name like Contrast, it's bound to be a dip imo.

Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.

Shade + foundation in one formula maybe?
no idea how that would be made, but it would kill two birds with 1 stone, I suppose