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 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:


Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?

I think GW is saying that they can get the same result in about 5 minutes.

The skin is mix of two "Jo Sonja" paints and the rest is some cheap acrylics from the local art store.


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 puma713 wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:


Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?

I think GW is saying that they can get the same result in about 5 minutes.

I did just what GW said, paint one single layer.

The 30 minute is drying time.

And 5 minutes? Come on that's barely opening the pots.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:


And 5 minutes? Come on that's barely opening the pots.

From earlier in the thread:

 Kanluwen wrote:
From the ...

Bad Dice Podcast:

Spoiler:

He commented that it took him 5 minutes and the colors are pretty fast drying.

I think a big component would be how many could you paint in a short time?

Would you be able to batch paint a large number of bloodreavers and get the same result in a short period?

Dude... difference is that I painted more details and more accurate. Not any paint difference. And that's not even dry.

I am finding these very interesting, and my 1st question is I would how these paints look applied over a Silver Base coat

GaroRobe wrote:
I think a big component would be how many could you paint in a short time?

Would you be able to batch paint a large number of bloodreavers and get the same result in a short period?

Yeah I could. Its one layer of paint. It doesn't get much easier.

Not any difference to what GW is trying to sell.

 Lockark wrote:
I am finding these very interesting, and my 1st question is I would how these paints look applied over a Silver Base coat

Read somewhere they were demoing it over Leadbelcher as well.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
I am finding these very interesting, and my 1st question is I would how these paints look applied over a Silver Base coat

Read somewhere they were demoing it over Leadbelcher as well.

Nice, I hope someone took pics of the finished model


Edit: This is probably why Forgeworld discontinued their transparent paint range, because I imagen you may be able to do alot of the same stuff you could with thows with these ones. I'm starting to suspect their is alot you could do with these paints other then just speed painting armies

Indeed.

Some of the colours look a bit pastel to me. But I suspect it’s little that a thinned down brown wash couldn’t fix. Just tone them down a wee bit.

Actually, I don't suppose there is example that was painted using "white" contrast paint.

White is propably the more trickier colors to paint and if this helps with it is much better.

Sotahullu wrote:
Actually, I don't suppose there is example that was painted using "white" contrast paint.

White is propably the more trickier colors to paint and if this helps with it is much better.

Now you can get the same chalky results in half the time!

Jokes aside, I’m right there with you. Interested in seeing the pure black and whites and what kind of results they give.

Also, how well faces will look.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
I just painted speed painted up this blood reaver in 30 minutes to showcase what it looks like if you take regular acrylic paint and thin it with just water.

Everything is just one layer of paint.



Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?

The models with contrast paint on them have smoother transitions between the darker areas and the lighter ones. They are also more vibrant although that could be attributed to color choice.

timd wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Seems there are two base sprays specifically for these paints. Wrauthbone is one of them.

Looks like the undercoat colors are a warm off-white and a cool off-white for use as basecoats for warm and cool colors respectively.

T

Yeah. The wraithbone is more beige and makes the colours more vibrant, and the grey seer is grey and makes the colours a bit darker.

Tried them out, I was genuinely impressed.

 ImAGeek wrote:

timd wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Seems there are two base sprays specifically for these paints. Wrauthbone is one of them.

Looks like the undercoat colors are a warm off-white and a cool off-white for use as basecoats for warm and cool colors respectively.

T

Yeah. The wraithbone is more beige and makes the colours more vibrant, and the grey seer is grey and makes the colours a bit darker.

Tried them out, I was genuinely impressed.

Does Grey Seer come close to matching any of the existing grey paints GW has?

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
I just painted speed painted up this blood reaver in 30 minutes to showcase what it looks like if you take regular acrylic paint and thin it with just water.

Everything is just one layer of paint.

Spoiler:

Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?

The models with contrast paint on them have smoother transitions between the darker areas and the lighter ones. They are also more vibrant although that could be attributed to color choice.

Even if you compare similar colors? For example the beige on those blue eldar example compared to the skull on the axe of my blood reaver?

Lighter colors tend to look better when painting like this.

Anyways I think both my and GWs looks just as blotchy. And both looks crap. Not seeing any magic here.

 Ghaz wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

timd wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Seems there are two base sprays specifically for these paints. Wrauthbone is one of them.

Looks like the undercoat colors are a warm off-white and a cool off-white for use as basecoats for warm and cool colors respectively.

T

Yeah. The wraithbone is more beige and makes the colours more vibrant, and the grey seer is grey and makes the colours a bit darker.

Tried them out, I was genuinely impressed.

Does Grey Seer come close to matching any of the existing grey paints GW has?

I’m not massively familiar with all the paints. It’s not too far off white, so probably the lightest grey if any.

Ulthuan Grey would be their lightest grey. It's also the recommended touch-up colour for Corax White. The next darkest would be Administratum Grey.

 Ghaz wrote:
Ulthuan Grey would be their lightest grey. It's also the recommended touch-up colour for Corax White. The next darkest would be Administratum Grey.

It’s closer to Ulthuan, possibly a bit lighter? Hard to gauge without them side by side.

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
I just painted speed painted up this blood reaver in 30 minutes to showcase what it looks like if you take regular acrylic paint and thin it with just water.

Everything is just one layer of paint.

Spoiler:

Tell me, is there any significant difference to what GW is showing?

The models with contrast paint on them have smoother transitions between the darker areas and the lighter ones. They are also more vibrant although that could be attributed to color choice.

Even if you compare similar colors? For example the beige on those blue eldar example compared to the skull on the axe of my blood reaver?

Lighter colors tend to look better when painting like this.

Anyways I think both my and GWs looks just as blotchy. And both looks crap. Not seeing any magic here.

They are comparable, yeah. I think what the contrast paints allow you to achieve versus watering down/thinning acrylics is consistency and ease. It's why people would buy an orange instead of mixing a red and a yellow paint.

And as a cover-all solution to unpainted models? I agree. The Space Marines I've seen painted with the stuff just... don't look good. However, the contrast paints look like they'll be an excellent way to achieve smooth shading on fabrics and organic surfaces*. Especially when you highlight them as has been shown in the thread. To me, they're just another tool to be added to the tool box. And I am really excited to try painting cloaks with them.

*Expect for human flesh tones. I have never seen a touted quick and easy solution to painting human skin that looked decent.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Indeed.

Some of the colours look a bit pastel to me. But I suspect it’s little that a thinned down brown wash couldn’t fix. Just tone them down a wee bit.

So, Easter egg marines? Slaanesh here we come!

T

 DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:

GaroRobe wrote:
I think a big component would be how many could you paint in a short time?

Would you be able to batch paint a large number of bloodreavers and get the same result in a short period?

Yeah I could. Its one layer of paint. It doesn't get much easier.

Not any difference to what GW is trying to sell.

It sounds like you have your mind made up, so I'll just have to disagree with you. I'd much rather have 3 pots of something that does this for me and power through 30 models than have to keep a palette going and keep watering and keep up consistency. It's just easier.

I get that you're trying to prove you can do the exact same thing with one layer of paint. Okay? Don't buy it. I'd much rather have the convenience of the technique already bottled and ready to go.


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 TheCustomLime wrote:


They are comparable, yeah. I think what the contrast paints allow you to achieve versus watering down/thinning acrylics is consistency and ease. It's why people would buy an orange instead of mixing a red and a yellow paint.

Yes, this. You're going to save time simply opening a pot and applying Contrast rather than watering down all the paints you need and retain consistency throughout an entire session. It's simpler, and simpler is quicker.

My point for the post was to show the result you get when you thin with water. So people can decide if they want to invest in GWs paint or not.

You know, help people.

Yes, for myself, I already made up my mind. This is regular paint with abit of water.

I really don't think the watering down the paint quite achieves the same effect. Watered paint pools more aggressively whilst leaving more uneven and somewhat desaturated finish. Different painting mediums exist for a reason.

Closeups of the display with all the contrast colors, looks like each pot has a model for each spray can

 Crimson wrote:
I really don't think the watering down the paint quite achieves the same effect. Watered paint pools more aggressively whilst leaving more uneven and somewhat desaturated finish. Different painting mediums exist for a reason.

Its true that it happens, when you water down too much.

But isn't that also true for GWs contrast paint?

Look at this black, is it really that good?

Yeah, the black doesn't look good. I really don't think you can do good black with these as it is a colour which requires sharp highlights. But look how strongly saturated the rest of the colours are and how smooth of most of the transitions are. This most definitely is not just added water. It is not magic in a pot, but this seems like a very useful sort of paint to me and I can't wait to try it.

Well, if the result is like this :



I'm willing to give it a try. Especially when it's saving time like they say (waiting 30 minutes for dry is the difference with watered paint).

I gonna try to paint a saturated green to see the difference. BRB

Very interested to see more of these paints and how they look combined with GW's existing range.