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2019/05/29 15:48:53
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- Pre-order June 8th, in stores June 15th.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/29 17:10:41
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- Pre-order June 8th, in stores June 15th.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/29 20:49:42
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- Pre-order June 8th, in stores June 15th.
I'm OK with £4 from a 3rd party store. I have a lot of plague marines to paint. I am guessing that if I start out buying say 15 colours for £60, I will save way more than that in painting time within a few days (valuing my time at £20/hour). And my toy soldiers will be prettier too.
Further confirmation on prices can be found at ACD Distribution. The Forge World Base and Layer paints and the pots of Grey Seer and Wraithbone are $4.55 US each. The Contrast paints and large air paints are $7.80 US each. The Grey Seer and Wraithbone sprays are $19.50 US each.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/29 21:38:25
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
In the article about the history of citadel paints, it says this: "innovative paints like Retributor Armour". Is there something special about that paint? I thought it was just a metallic gold. What makes it "innovative"?
2019/05/29 21:42:50
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Doesn't require a brown basecoat to not look awful?
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
2019/05/29 21:56:14
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Shadenuat wrote: 20 dorra per rattle can, wowsies. That's more expensive than professional acrylic sprays probably. At least the ones I know of and can buy.
It's in line with the other colored sprays, except for Retributor Gold - it's $28 US. Also note that Caliban Green, Incubi Darkness and Rhinox Hide sprays are 'Sold Out - No Longer Available' on GW's US web store.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/29 22:46:57
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Albino Squirrel wrote: In the article about the history of citadel paints, it says this: "innovative paints like Retributor Armour". Is there something special about that paint? I thought it was just a metallic gold. What makes it "innovative"?
Donno what makes it innovative but last time I checked it was (one of) the best gold paint on the market.
2019/05/29 22:50:31
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Yeah, it's very expensive, but 6 ml more, so I guess it's in line with Citadel prices. Which are expensive, but if you buy Citadel anyway, not overly so. And at least they have strong pigments, similar to inks - and inks can be expensive (although normal people put them into glass bottles with rubber noses and other fancy stuff instead of cheap ass plastic pots).
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2019/05/29 23:17:24
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Yes. They're also 18ml, halfway between the 12ml base/layer paints and the 24ml shades in the new pots.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/29 23:43:47
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/30 02:38:59
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Slave wrote: Like all paints, I wonder when folks will figure out what kind of third party spray paint will work just as good.
I haven't used a GW spray in eons. Army Painter has bone and Purple, as Krylon makes a wonderful black and white.
Nothing wrong with using other brands, but hard to judge a product you haven't used in eons, no?
I use a lot of Army Painter spray (I have probably a dozen cans on hand currently), but the GW sprays are really good and consistently give me a better finish. The Army Painter has been hit or miss on the colored primers ranging from cans losing pressure and being worthless after one use, to nearly perfect, smooth finish - though that's mostly been with the black primer , not the colored primers.
GW has been consistently excellent quality. I buy various brands for color variety, and I've always found it worth the extra few bucks for the GW paint.
You can never beat your first time. The second generation is shinier, stronger, faster and superior in every regard save one, and it's an unfair criticism to level, but it simply can't be as original. - Andy Chambers, on the evolution of Games Workshop games
2019/05/30 03:09:46
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
2019/05/30 07:08:36
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Galas wrote: And if GW spray cans ruin your models they don't only send you a new one but also new miniatures.
That doesn't happen with sprays of other brands.
Worst aspect of GW sprays is that as you're adding units to your army, you find they've discontinued the base spray you used. Not to mention the spray colour isn't quite the same colour as the named pot anyway.
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2019/05/30 07:16:35
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Just listening to Vince Venturella's Warhammer weekly rumour is that not all stores will get the Contrast Paints for the 15th they will be rolled out in waves with those stores that have the full range paint racks (tier 1) getting them first then other stores later. There are 3 tiers of paint rack size currently depending on store size so only 1/3 of stores will have them on the 15th.
2019/05/30 11:10:18
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
kestral wrote: Any word on how this will work with Reaper Bones - my major speed painting area? Will the spray adhere ok to the Bonesium?
Not sure I'm coughing up $20 for spray under any circumstance though.
I can't imagine there'd be a problem, but the only way to find out will be when it goes on general sale and someone tries it out. Bones might need a wash to remove any mould release agents, but otherwise I can't foresee the sprays not working. Even if they don't Contrast works on regular undercoating sprays anyway, it just likes the new smoother ones better.
If you really wanted you could spray a bones twice - once in regular undercoat then once with the new GW ones. Two undercoat sprays wouldn't obscure detailing and if you're using contrast paints as a main chances are you're already saving a layer or two of paint instead of layering anyway.
Another Contrast paint video, this time concentrating on wet blending...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/30 15:01:51
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Does anyone have a picture showing all of the contrast paints and their names? Need to figure out which ones I'm going to order.
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2019/05/30 15:35:23
Subject: 'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Graphic of the colors and their names. You can get pics of the Contrast paints in the pot at War of Sigmar.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2019/05/30 17:07:59
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
Wow, that wet blending is pretty bad.
But contrast paints on flat areas like that don't work very well in my opinion (I really dislike the patchy look). I'm more curious to see a wet blend on something like fur. A wolf with a tan to brown to black transition for instance.
2019/05/30 17:48:35
Subject: Re:'Free Your Models - Contrast' paint range -- In stores June 15th, US prices page 33
fresus wrote: Wow, that wet blending is pretty bad.
But contrast paints on flat areas like that don't work very well in my opinion (I really dislike the patchy look). I'm more curious to see a wet blend on something like fur. A wolf with a tan to brown to black transition for instance.
If he played with pushing the paint around more, he prob could of gotten the transition to look better TBH. Wetblending iisn't normally something you nail in a 2 min long video.
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