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Forgive my ignorance, but has it been established that you need to use the actual GW spray as opposed to any random primer?

 kestral wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but has it been established that you need to use the actual GW spray as opposed to any random primer?

No, you don't need to use the new primers. Note however that the primer does need to be smooth (white paints tend to be a bit on the rough side due to the pigments). Also note that the color of the primer can affect the end product (a white, cool off-white or a warm off-white primer will all have subtle differences on the end result).

 kestral wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but has it been established that you need to use the actual GW spray as opposed to any random primer?

I have been using Krylon Ivory Satin. Its very close...

T

 kestral wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but has it been established that you need to use the actual GW spray as opposed to any random primer?

I use rustoleum 2x primer, no problem.

Vallejo airbrush primers work great as well.

I am loving the reds/blues and greens over Retributor Primer.

I'm not totally enamored with the coverage of Contrast on some colours on Wraithbone/Grey Seer though - I tend to go over it with a second thinned coat

Going to have to experiment more maybe/watch some videos

Gerinako wrote:
I am loving the reds/blues and greens over Retributor Primer.

I'm not totally enamored with the coverage of Contrast on some colours on Wraithbone/Grey Seer though - I tend to go over it with a second thinned coat

You could go with slightly darker base colors using Krylon or Rustoleum satin paints. I think there is large amounts of potential using slightly darker base colors that has not been explored yet.

T

I agree that it seems to work great as a shader with more base coverage.
Going to a very light version of a colour (almost a pastel?) and hitting it with the contrast paint looks quite nice.

This stuff seems to stay fairly wet a bit longer and lets the pigment "settle" slowly for a nice overall effect.
It lends a "richer" look to me but you better not be in a hurry.
It is like a mix of "slow dry/retarder" with some "Flow-aid", "Matt-medium" and acrylic inks.

What I like most with this is you can target an area and it really does not flow anywhere: it stays where painted and does not run (much).
I can be pretty brave touching up spots on an almost completed model and know it will not flow off somewhere.

So, has there been any word when GW are going to sort out the supply issues with these? I've been sitting here waiting to grab the complete range and there are still multiple colours that third parties are unable to order more of.

According to what head office is telling the GW store managers who are clamouring for more stock to sell, they are producing and shipping it at maximum capacity

so unless demand slows down I don't see any changes in the short term

I’m still waiting for the Black from the complete bundle I ordered within 5 minutes of going live on Element Games.

Aeneades wrote:
I’m still waiting for the Black from the complete bundle I ordered within 5 minutes of going live on Element Games.

Same here. I'm waiting on about 10 colours from Element Games to complete my order. The order history page says they are expected to ship every Friday and then every Friday, it changes to the next week and so forth.

Firestorm games got a load of the black in - so I dropped my one remaining part of an Element Games order and got it from Firestorm. I still got a large chunk from Element, but was open to shopping around for the rare black.

Heck Firestorm Games still has over 400 Black Templar in stock! https://www.firestormgames.co.uk/citadel-contrast:-black-templar

I managed to pick up a black from Firestorm games a couple of weeks after release, thankfully. Have left my order outstanding with Element as know I will get through Black quite quickly and because I am interested to know when it finally does ship.

They have the black but are also missing some of the other colours that I am waiting on as well - shame.

Here's a basic dumbass question - has anybody found these paints particularly difficult to get off your own skin afterwards?

Not a big deal, just a heads up that I had a big splodge of beautifully defined plaguebearer flesh on my hand for days

Casualty wrote:
Here's a basic dumbass question - has anybody found these paints particularly difficult to get off your own skin afterwards?

Not a big deal, just a heads up that I had a big splodge of beautifully defined plaguebearer flesh on my hand for days

That’s just papa nurgles blessing

I just spoiled half a bottle of Snakebite Leather. Half my hand was brown and it had around 10 minutes to dry while I cleaned the desk. A few minutes of rubbing under running water and it was clean again.

 Theophony wrote:

Casualty wrote:
Here's a basic dumbass question - has anybody found these paints particularly difficult to get off your own skin afterwards?

Not a big deal, just a heads up that I had a big splodge of beautifully defined plaguebearer flesh on my hand for days

That’s just papa nurgles blessing

Blessed indeed.

I could see people looking at it in meetings. I don't know if I should be glad or not that nobody actually said anything though...



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So apparently I decided to REALLY put this to the test, because I've just spilled the most of a pot of Gryph Hound Orange all over my lap. Can confirm that while most of it has scrubbed off, there's a definite orange staining remaining to enliven my inner thighs.

Blessings of Nurgle indeed.

I still haven't been able to track down any Snakebite Leather yet!

 Alpharius wrote:
I still haven't been able to track down any Snakebite Leather yet!

It's readily available on ebay:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283556863796

...and the shipping isn't horrible either!

Thanks!

Anyone having issues with the contrast paint rubbing off? The pointed edges of my model from just handling while painting i have been noticing the contrast paint rubs off. I have never had this problem with any other paint before.

Just wondered if anyone else encountered this.

Picked up a couple pots of black today.. planning to use for my marines. Does anyone know if there's any samples of what minis like with black over a silvery metal base coat? searched and didn't see anything but probably missed it. I saw examples with white and some other base colors, but haven't seen silver. I kinda want to see if I can go for a blackened metal wrought iron kinda look.

 Necros wrote:
Picked up a couple pots of black today.. planning to use for my marines. Does anyone know if there's any samples of what minis like with black over a silvery metal base coat? searched and didn't see anything but probably missed it. I saw examples with white and some other base colors, but haven't seen silver. I kinda want to see if I can go for a blackened metal wrought iron kinda look.

Here you go - https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/257496/contrast-paints-swatches


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angel of death 007 wrote:
Anyone having issues with the contrast paint rubbing off? The pointed edges of my model from just handling while painting i have been noticing the contrast paint rubs off. I have never had this problem with any other paint before.

Just wondered if anyone else encountered this.

Its a known issue due to the new medium and the fact that the edges only have one thin paint layer on them so you need to protect with varnish.

Something to note. Seems one is better off being careful with the spray primer. Too much of it and the damn paint seems to be like water on oil. Can get it work eventually but takes couple extra go's at it.

And the spray bottles have rather strong burst...ugh.

angel of death 007 wrote:
Anyone having issues with the contrast paint rubbing off? The pointed edges of my model from just handling while painting i have been noticing the contrast paint rubs off. I have never had this problem with any other paint before.

Just wondered if anyone else encountered this.

Yeah, I have. I've taken to either/both of using a painting handle when I'm using a lot of it, or doing "mid-work" spray varnishings, depending on the whats and how muches of the model, the estimated touchings going forward and so forth.

Dispatch date of my remaining paints from Element Games has slipped by another week again so I have reluctantly asked for a refund of the outstanding amount.

Guess I'll be going to Firestorm Games who seem to have all the paints in stock...

Has there been any advanced contrast videos where people have got better effects using medium and that. All the videos i have seen from contrast paints were very lackluster. They remind me almost of dying an easter egg.

I tried the recipe for home made contrast from Goober town. Equal amounts medium and ink with flow aid. Way too strong with my dealer rowny inks. One third ink was better.

DIYing these is not that straightforward but it only took one experiment to figure out my set of inks is pretty strong and I needed to adjust.