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2019/04/29 16:22:50
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/04/29/warhammer-40000-update-april-2019-gw-homepage-post-2/
After countless hours of playtesting, weeks of writing, a frankly dangerous number of coffees and even a couple of intercontinental trips, the Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019 is finally ready! From broad changes to tiny tweaks, this update promises to make your games more balanced and fun than ever before. Don’t just take our word for it – here’s Warhammer 40,000 rulesmaster Robin Cruddace with some release notes:
Robin: There has never been a more exciting time to be playing Warhammer 40,000! Since our last online update in Autumn 2018, we have released several new codexes, campaign books, supplements and a new edition of Chapter Approved. Throughout this period, we have also received a vast amount of feedback from you – the Warhammer 40,000 community – face-to-face at events around the world, and online through our Facebook page and our FAQ inbox. Thank you to everybody who got in contact – it has proved invaluable in helping us to make this update. We have been hard at work compiling and analysing your feedback, and I hope you will see the impact it has had.
So, what does this update contain? Well, the first thing we have done is to update our FAQ and Errata documents to take into account any new questions that have been raised since their last update (so if you have a question about a specific army, make sure you check out the Errata and FAQ document for that army’s codex). These updates include some changes to the core Warhammer 40,000 rules and some further clarifications of how certain rules work – the most notable changes and clarifications are the first things detailed in the Designer’s Commentary (see below).
Next, we have looked at all the beta rules introduced in the last update and, after making some changes to incorporate your feedback, have finalised those rules. Finally, we have made a handful of changes to certain rules to help address some balance issues that are consistently being raised by the community. These can be found at the end of the document.
We hope this update clears up any questions you might have about the rules, but please continue to send your feedback to 40kFAQ@gwplc.com. In the meantime, may you always roll sixes (unless you’re taking a Morale test).
Thanks, Robin! The Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019, complete with notes and insights from our designers, is now live – download it in your preferred language via the links below. It’s also available over on the Downloads page along with a number of updates to codexes and rules supplements, including Shadowspear and Vigilus Ablaze
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/warhammer_40000_update_April_2019_en.pdf
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2019/04/29 16:25:07
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Knights Castellan took a hit. 100 points more, Max 4+ INV.
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2019/04/29 16:30:29
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Seems ok. After the Ynnari hit, I was expecting it to double in price, lose the invul and go to T5, lol.
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2019/04/29 16:32:31
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Can't see that the individual books FAQ's are up yet.
Lo and behold as I type....
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2019/04/29 16:32:37
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Been Around the Block
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Bolter Discipline rule now doesn't affect vehicles so the Dark Talon, Storm Raven and Land Raider Crusader have also been nerfed which sucks majorly. Deathwatch also took a bit of a hit because of it too.
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2019/04/29 16:33:58
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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MistaGav wrote:Bolter Discipline rule now doesn't affect vehicles so the Dark Talon, Storm Raven and Land Raider Crusader have also been nerfed which sucks majorly. Deathwatch also took a bit of a hit because of it too.
I'm fine with Deathwatch, but were Land Raiders really overperforming with the buff? Oh well, GW giveth, and GW taketh away.
EDIT: Double-firing Hellfire Shells with the Armorium Cherub is axed as well.
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2019/04/29 16:37:14
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Orks took a hit too. Mob Up only works on Boyz.
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2019/04/29 16:37:33
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Youth wracked by nightmarish visions
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So Grey Knights Interceptors can no longer shunt first turn. I am so thankful for the nerf to GKs. They were really OP.
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2019/04/29 16:38:58
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Oblits left at 65 it seems unless I missed it?
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2019/04/29 16:41:15
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No. They are 115. It just isn't pink for some reason.
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2019/04/29 16:46:10
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Been Around the Block
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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:MistaGav wrote:Bolter Discipline rule now doesn't affect vehicles so the Dark Talon, Storm Raven and Land Raider Crusader have also been nerfed which sucks majorly. Deathwatch also took a bit of a hit because of it too.
I'm fine with Deathwatch, but were Land Raiders really overperforming with the buff? Oh well, GW giveth, and GW taketh away.
EDIT: Double-firing Hellfire Shells with the Armorium Cherub is axed as well.
It actually made me consider one or a Storm Raven as a bullet hose but not anymore I guess.
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2019/04/29 16:49:26
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Thrilled to see Renegade Chapters require their gods' marks. Khorne-flavored Flawless Host was dumb.
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2019/04/29 16:55:38
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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 Boss Salvage wrote:Thrilled to see Renegade Chapters require their gods' marks. Khorne-flavored Flawless Host was dumb.
Agreed. It seemed like that would be something too minor for them to rule on, very happy.
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2019/04/29 16:56:13
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Dakka Veteran
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Hooray for flying over units being back! And flyers being put in their place! No more weird shenanigans where they block movement.
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2019/04/29 16:57:19
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation
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grinton wrote:So Grey Knights Interceptors can no longer shunt first turn. I am so thankful for the nerf to GKs. They were really OP.
Can you point out where you're seeing this? I can't find it.
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2019/04/29 16:57:56
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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So, Big Summary as far as I can see it:
-Knight Castellans are now 100pts more expensive, and rotate ion shields now caps out at a 4++, big nerf to the knight component of the current imperial soup meta list.
-Fly in the charge phase is now reverted, allowing models to move across enemy models while charging. This also affects abilities like Flip Belts that work with Fly
-Eldar Craftworld psychic powers now only affect Eldar Craftworld units, removing the interaction of most notably Doom with Drukhari Disintegrators and Harlequin Haywire Cannons.
-Special Issue Ammo from deathwatch now no longer works with bolter discipline. Feel free to envision your deathwatch troopers' discipline vanishing as they see how PANTS-CRAPPINGLY AWESOME their special bullets are!
-Roll-off type abilities like Death Grip and Mental Onslaught have all been given a rule causing them to automatically fail if the target rolls a 6, so your knight can no longer be instagibbed by a memebrain spacebug. Or at least, it is less likely.
-Thousand Sons rubric units no longer have that problem where they go up like firecrackers when they suffer a single Perils of the Warp. That's nice.
-Various marine stuff has been randomly twaddled with. Vehicles no longer get beta boltguns, grey knights lost the 2++ GMNDK, everyone's hand flamers got extra handflamey when they got jealous of those D6 shot ones the genestealer cults got, and the weird interactions with the devastator ammo baby and the mortal wound stratagems has been removed.
-Obliterators, turns out, were supposed to be 115 points. Everyone who bought 20 of them with the idea that they'd be 65 now gets to make a surprised pikachu face.
-Pretty much nothing happened to guard.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2019/04/29 17:00:44
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Terrifying Doombull
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For 'countless hours' of revision, I expected more than a few tweaks. Especially after all that hype in the article itself!
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2019/04/29 17:01:52
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
Alabama
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Daemon Princes of different flavors are all now the same datasheet for Matched Play. That's a big shift. And it looks like there's no detachment CP nerf that was being rumored? Unless I missed it.
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2019/04/29 17:02:34
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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The GC Mental Onslaught auto kill bomb is no longer possible, but I don't think anyone really expected it to survive.
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2019/04/29 17:03:25
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 The Phazer wrote:The GC Mental Onslaught auto kill bomb is no longer possible, but I don't think anyone really expected it to survive.
Ditto with Deathgrip.
Nice that it's a single consolidated document this time around too.
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2019/04/29 17:04:09
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Voss wrote:For 'countless hours' of revision, I expected more than a few tweaks. Especially after all that hype in the article itself!
Perhaps a small comfort, but when it comes to these things too little is often preferable to too much. And the degree to change does not always reflect how much thought went into it.
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2019/04/29 17:07:38
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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the_scotsman wrote:So, Big Summary as far as I can see it:
-Pretty much nothing happened to guard.
I am shocked I tells you shocked.
Single most broken army since launch remains pretty much untouched, instead they try to nerf them by smashing the nerf bat into armies/units that guard players ally in again.
At this point it’s pretty clear that guard are 8th editions designated broken army.
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Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis |
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2019/04/29 17:08:55
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Lieutenant General
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'New' FAQs aren't in magenta (note this is a 2.0 FAQ and not a 1.x FAQ).
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2019/04/29 17:09:42
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Easiest and most obvious way to get all Imperium players to buy into an army with ugly ancient plastics.
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2019/04/29 17:12:00
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, (non-Castellan) Knights, Guard/AdMech and Smash/Shield Captain (back to charging over chaff) lists seem to come out best, along with the Jim Vesal (tm) special and maybe Tau.
Eldar get hit hard, Lootaz lose mob-up, mental onslaught limited, etc..,
Imperial & Chaos soup reign supreme.
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2019/04/29 17:14:05
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Terrifying Doombull
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:Voss wrote:For 'countless hours' of revision, I expected more than a few tweaks. Especially after all that hype in the article itself!
Perhaps a small comfort, but when it comes to these things too little is often preferable to too much. And the degree to change does not always reflect how much thought went into it.
Cute, but given the number of unaddressed, widely known outstanding issues, too little is not preferable at all.
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2019/04/29 17:17:43
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MistaGav wrote:Bolter Discipline rule now doesn't affect vehicles so the Dark Talon, Storm Raven and Land Raider Crusader have also been nerfed which sucks majorly. Deathwatch also took a bit of a hit because of it too.
To be honest, it only really affects two uses - DW bikers kiting enemies from max range, and the clowns who were abusing storm bolters as sniper weapons (giving DW stalkers back their primary role). Anything that deep strikes can still do it within 12 inches and rapid fire SA anyway. Hell, it even opens up some new options compared to Codex DW as written as now you can double your number of shots against chaff in a lot of cases choosing quantity over quality. Redemptor non-bolt weapons are extra useless now though.
Funnily enough they missed edge case of that one rapid firing relic. Oh well...
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2019/04/29 17:18:55
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Dakka Veteran
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The good:
- FLY keyword fixed. It's a good compromise. Although I'm still salty that Wraith Form is just a worse version of fly, when it should be better
- Castellan points hike
- Eldar soup psychic BS nerfed
- Deamon Prince spam nerfed
The bad:
- The rumoured CP detachment tweak wasn't true
- Guardsmen are still undercosted and loyal 32 will continue
The ugly:
- Necrons and Grey Knights got pretty much nothing to bring up their woefully underperforming armies. I guess there's always the next codex, in a couple years.....
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2019/04/29 17:19:13
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Fireknife Shas'el
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ArmchairArbiter wrote:Hooray for flying over units being back! And flyers being put in their place! No more weird shenanigans where they block movement.
But a flamer is still the best weapon to shoot down a supersonic air/space superiority fighter 
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2019/04/29 17:19:24
Subject: Warhammer 40,000 Update – April 2019
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Irbis wrote:Hell, it even opens up some new options compared to Codex DW as written as now you can double your number of shots against chaff in a lot of cases choosing quantity over quality.
Was just about to mention this. DW effectively have four firing modes now (three of which have pretty common uses).
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