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 Ghaz wrote:
Let the speculation begin...

IlClan!

Probably not...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Let the speculation begin...

IlClan!

Probably not...

IlClan was covered in the AMA:

20:00 mark, ETA IlClan print book? Randall says "Spring". Ray says the slight delay is because they're working in tandem with Hour of the Wolf. Most of it written, but artwork and layout paused some progress. It won't drop right with Hour of the Wolf, but will follow afterwards.

I'm trying to figure out if I should bother ordering any wave 2 forcepacks before it locks down. Seems like they're at or nearp MSRP and Miniature Market and GameNerdz and such will be selling them at much less than the Pledge Manager. Any insight?

 judgedoug wrote:
I'm trying to figure out if I should bother ordering any wave 2 forcepacks before it locks down. Seems like they're at or nearp MSRP and Miniature Market and GameNerdz and such will be selling them at much less than the Pledge Manager. Any insight?

Depends on how soon you want the models or any Salvage Boxes, etc.

 judgedoug wrote:
I'm trying to figure out if I should bother ordering any wave 2 forcepacks before it locks down. Seems like they're at or nearp MSRP and Miniature Market and GameNerdz and such will be selling them at much less than the Pledge Manager. Any insight?

I grabbed a few more just because I am crazy about the current releases, and wanted to have some more options sooner. I still left probably 75% of the Wave 2 Packs for retail though. They really aren't a good deal, and the pure win-fall really is just getting stuff a few months early.

Thanks ya'll. Trying to figure out then if there's really anything I need to get on Wave 2 if it will all be retail eventually.

Got my missing Legendary Salavage; Natasha

Happy with that.


They did say there's a shortage of Marik Coins, so my replacement will come with Wave 2.

So that most recent kickstarter update confused the gak out of me.

Someone, please explain the reinforcement packs and which ones the Kickstarter is coming with by default and if I should/need to buy this one. Especially if any of them include vehicles or ground troop markers/tokens because combined arms combat is something I am super interested in.

It would seem the reinforcement packs are mostly just the Books with the Mech's Sheets in them. Which are the books for keeping track of your mechs in battle, and punchcard representations of mechs and support units.

You can get the books separately or in that

That pack is just there to give you a bunch of extra 'Mechs using stand-up double-sided card-board tokens. They've been around since the 2nd Ed boxed set, maybe earlier.

This set in particular though comes with TONS of them, representing all the 'Mechs in the Kickstarter, plus all the record sheets for them. Good way to bulk out a game if you don't have a large miniature collection or if you want to play a massive game.

The counters are a nice bonus and fit with the cool mapsheet (only available inside that set ) and rules that are in the set.

CGL did tell me via the KS that the mapsheet may become available later on as a neoprene one. I want it in paper, but I don't need a bunch'a cardboard 'Mechs and 300000 record sheets.

Hmmm. Ok. I think I will skip it for now then. I'm sure I can survive without that stuff while I'm still just learning the game.

beast_gts wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Looking at expanding to normal infantry and recalled that Troublemaker did 6mm plastics. I know they're not the best detail, but has anyone got any painted examples of the Troublemaker human infantry? Thinking that for the price they could be very useful for some Davion or Kurita ground pounder infantry.

I didn't know they had done, but at 8 Sprues for £12 I'll give them a go.

So I got some and they're not bad -



There's not much detail on them but they might look OK with a few on a base.

Oh great, thanks much! I ordered some too (though still waiting, overseas and all), they are so cheap, why not. Yeah, a pile of 'em on a base and they'll be great for generic infantry. And there's little missile launchers, too? So rifle and SRM infantry.

I must be blind, not finding them, are they on the Vanguard Miniatures website? All I'm seeing is the troublemaker plastic terrain and vanguard metal infantry, don't see the plastic infantry/vehicles sprues

 Kalamadea wrote:
I must be blind, not finding them, are they on the Vanguard Miniatures website? All I'm seeing is the troublemaker plastic terrain and vanguard metal infantry, don't see the plastic infantry/vehicles sprues

Currently only direct from Troublemaker. http://www.troublemakergames.co.uk/

 judgedoug wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
I must be blind, not finding them, are they on the Vanguard Miniatures website? All I'm seeing is the troublemaker plastic terrain and vanguard metal infantry, don't see the plastic infantry/vehicles sprues

Currently only direct from Troublemaker. http://www.troublemakergames.co.uk/

Or their eBay store.

beast_gts wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
I must be blind, not finding them, are they on the Vanguard Miniatures website? All I'm seeing is the troublemaker plastic terrain and vanguard metal infantry, don't see the plastic infantry/vehicles sprues

Currently only direct from Troublemaker. http://www.troublemakergames.co.uk/

Or their eBay store.

Nice! Note to overseas buyers, the ebay store's postage is about four times higher than direct from the website

Edit! Mine just arrived. The figs are definitely thin but a set of eight of these sprues is absolutely worth £12 just for the eight AFV's, sixteen dudes w/ missile launchers and 112 dudes with rifles. the Not-Orks are just a bonus, and heck, you could probably use the Not-Ork Not-Trukk as an ARV or supply truck for non-Ork stuff.

so since I gotta wait till wave 2 for my stuff I ended up snagging a clan invasion box with some christmas money, gotta say I'm impressed by the detail on the mechs.

It makes sence to bring the CityTech Boxed Set with Plastic Vehicles.

You think they'd do a CityTech box with plastic vehicles?

I figured they'd go for a different era, like Civil War or Jihad, and get in a bunch of later-tech 'Mechs. Jihad would allow them to do a "Word of Blake" set with the 6 Celestials in plastic.

I think the next Kickstarter is timed from post Tukayyid to the Great Refusal. This gives you Coventry, Op Guerrero, Chaos March, Op Bulldog and Serpent.

all we know about the next KS so far is that they said it would be focused on mercs. I believe they also said that they wouldn't completely rule out vehicles and non-mech assets, but the primary focus would be in bulking out the line of mechs and any non-mech minis would be severely limited

A box set around Birddog/Bulldog, my favourite part of the BTech timeline?

Who do I have to kill???

I think it'd be smart to stretch it out to the end of the fedcom civil war. it's only one more TRO, and that remaining TRO would have a lot of cross contamination as a lot of the stuff in it is from field manuals dating to bulldog/serpant. there are however some pretty iconic tro 3067 mechs, such as the Uziel that'd look good on cover art.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You think they'd do a CityTech box with plastic vehicles?

I figured they'd go for a different era, like Civil War or Jihad, and get in a bunch of later-tech 'Mechs. Jihad would allow them to do a "Word of Blake" set with the 6 Celestials in plastic.

I would buy entirely too many of that box of Celestials! And if they're especially cunning, they can take a page from Reaper, and do themed box 'expansions'. Imagine the Mercenaries Kickstarter.... with an option of a Jihad box of 8 or so mechs and a Civil War box with the best of the Lyran/Steiner gear from the era, like the AGOAC mechs only pack from this one.

Civil War box that has 8 'Mechs, like AGOAC, but it's 4 Lyran and 4 Davion.

Something like:

Garm, Legionnaire, JagerMech III & Sagittaire

vs

Razorback, Blitzkrieg, Uziel & Fafnir

 judgedoug wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 Kalamadea wrote:
I must be blind, not finding them, are they on the Vanguard Miniatures website? All I'm seeing is the troublemaker plastic terrain and vanguard metal infantry, don't see the plastic infantry/vehicles sprues

Currently only direct from Troublemaker. http://www.troublemakergames.co.uk/

Or their eBay store.

Nice! Note to overseas buyers, the ebay store's postage is about four times higher than direct from the website

Edit! Mine just arrived. The figs are definitely thin but a set of eight of these sprues is absolutely worth £12 just for the eight AFV's, sixteen dudes w/ missile launchers and 112 dudes with rifles. the Not-Orks are just a bonus, and heck, you could probably use the Not-Ork Not-Trukk as an ARV or supply truck for non-Ork stuff.

Why dont you just get the metal urban or nuclear waste troops by Vanguard Miniatures instead? Less fragile than the plastic ones.

IMHO, a new FedCom Civil War basic box would have to include 2 balanced lances (to allow play out of the box).

My 5 cents :

Allies
Fafnir (Peter rode one @ Tharkad)
Templar (both Sortek and Sandoval had one at the end)
Vulcan (5S)
Javelin

Loyalists
Hauptmann (Nondi @ Tharkad)
Battle Hawk (Adam)
Chimera
Firestarter

As per MUL cost, Allies are 150, Loyalists at 151.


Old-Four-Arms

Firestarter? Vulcan? Javelin?

The idea is to include interesting 'Mechs that are of that era and of the respective sides. You want to give the Davion side a Fafnir? One of the most Lyran-y 'Mechs to ever Lyran?

Greetings H.B.M.C.

Whilst I fully agree that those are older designs, I'd very much like to see the remaining 3025 Mechs get a facelift as well.

As to giving a Fafnir to the "Davion" side, the existence of the Federated Commonwealth meant that both "halves" had
access to both Davion and Steiner designs.

From Sarna (Fafnir page) :

Peter Steiner-Davion - During the campaign for Tharkad at the end of the FedCom Civil War, Peter Steiner-Davion led his pan-Lyran coalition from the seat of a brand new Fafnir. During the climactic street-to-street fighting in Tharkad City, he used it to defeat his great-aunt Nondi Steiner in a one-on-one fight.

As to the Vulcan (Sarna) :

Coventry Metal Works produced their own upgraded variant around the same time, the VT-5S, which played a pivotal role during the FedCom Civil War as part of the Allied forces.

We'll see what the future brings for BattleTech, more redesigned Mechs in plastic are always welcome.


Regards,

Old-Four-Arms