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2019/07/22 11:32:44
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (AKA EA inserts foot in mouth... again)
Ahh, that is a glorious video. Watched the OG one.
It's no wonder why gaming goes down the drain.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/22 15:28:17
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (AKA EA inserts foot in mouth... again)
Specaking of, what is the basic story of this franchise? Why are you assassinating all these people? And what's with the weird history jumping stuff and the really weird high tech scenes I've seen.
I don't know what it is now. Which is the joke.
TLDR;
Assassins and Templars are secret orders waging secret wars against one another all over the globe throughout history to control various alien artifacts. Yes the series spirals into ancient aliens by the end of the first game completely randomly with zero foreshadowing and then proceeds to make less and less sense as each new entry contrives new reasons to keep telling the story.
To be fair though I'm not sure anyone is in it for the story anymore.
It sounds like gak. I'm glad I've skipped these games.
Yeah I remember Warframe trying to push people to stream Warframe on twitch, and trying to get people to watch people playing Warframe on switch-- to the point that you had more rewards for watching someone else play than you did for actually playing!
It got on my nerves.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2019/07/22 20:08:44
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (AKA EA inserts foot in mouth... again)
Melissia wrote: Yeah I remember Warframe trying to push people to stream Warframe on twitch, and trying to get people to watch people playing Warframe on switch-- to the point that you had more rewards for watching someone else play than you did for actually playing!
It got on my nerves.
Well warframe atleast had the decency to be a free and decent game.
Unlike the recent EA garbage, or bethesda or unbisoft.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/22 20:25:26
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
This certainly is true. But I still don't like the forced inclusion of social media. And it was an endorsement deal too cause it was only for peopel who had paid twitch accounts.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2019/07/22 20:56:13
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
Melissia wrote: This certainly is true. But I still don't like the forced inclusion of social media. And it was an endorsement deal too cause it was only for peopel who had paid twitch accounts.
Ayy, i agree on that.
The forced multiplayer aspect sure is annoying.
Especially when you consider that some of the best IP 's were that.
...
In a way we see now the mobilification of the normal games market.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/24 08:39:03
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
So the UK deemed the Lootboxes not strictly gambling but threatening?
I mean, i don't know how the UK functions but it seems to me that that will get other commissions involved, commissions that may turn out better or worse.
Overall i am surprised that there was no point beeing made in the law beeing outdated from the gambling commission..
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/24 08:45:21
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: And now GTAV introduced a literal casino you can buy money for, but not cash it out...
"BuT It'S nOt sTriCtLy GaMbLiNg"
That certainly won't lead to issues for addicts. No never how could it, it isn't like a casino without any oversight or register for gambling addicts. No that won't be an issue at all mister.....
Well atleast GTA is 18+ not e/3+. but still.......
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/24 13:39:23
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/24 14:38:42
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: And now GTAV introduced a literal casino you can buy money for, but not cash it out...
"BuT It'S nOt sTriCtLy GaMbLiNg"
That certainly won't lead to issues for addicts. No never how could it, it isn't like a casino without any oversight or register for gambling addicts. No that won't be an issue at all mister.....
Well atleast GTA is 18+ not e/3+. but still.......
Yep this one has me stumped, I'm not up on the psychology of gambling and addiction but given the difference between a virtual pretend casino and an actual online casino is but a click I'm really not sure if this is dangerous or not, maybe a bit gateway and doubtless there is some shady 3rd party exploiting that'll occur, and if pretend gambling is more fun than pretend running and gunning then I kind of glad my PC can't cope with GTA V
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
2019/07/25 17:16:04
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: And now GTAV introduced a literal casino you can buy money for, but not cash it out...
"BuT It'S nOt sTriCtLy GaMbLiNg"
That certainly won't lead to issues for addicts. No never how could it, it isn't like a casino without any oversight or register for gambling addicts. No that won't be an issue at all mister.....
Well atleast GTA is 18+ not e/3+. but still.......
Yep this one has me stumped, I'm not up on the psychology of gambling and addiction but given the difference between a virtual pretend casino and an actual online casino is but a click I'm really not sure if this is dangerous or not, maybe a bit gateway and doubtless there is some shady 3rd party exploiting that'll occur, and if pretend gambling is more fun than pretend running and gunning then I kind of glad my PC can't cope with GTA V
Addiction isn't really that difficult to understand.
It has to do with how our brain rewards us.
Addiction to substances more often then not triggers the happiness hormones "tanks" into throwing them out.
Psychological addiction torwards an act or behaviour functions the same but without the substances but the act in the Center of it. E.g. Winning in gambling.
(heavily simplified)
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/25 18:05:37
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: And now GTAV introduced a literal casino you can buy money for, but not cash it out...
"BuT It'S nOt sTriCtLy GaMbLiNg"
That certainly won't lead to issues for addicts. No never how could it, it isn't like a casino without any oversight or register for gambling addicts. No that won't be an issue at all mister.....
Well atleast GTA is 18+ not e/3+. but still.......
Yep this one has me stumped, I'm not up on the psychology of gambling and addiction but given the difference between a virtual pretend casino and an actual online casino is but a click I'm really not sure if this is dangerous or not, maybe a bit gateway and doubtless there is some shady 3rd party exploiting that'll occur, and if pretend gambling is more fun than pretend running and gunning then I kind of glad my PC can't cope with GTA V
Addiction isn't really that difficult to understand.
It has to do with how our brain rewards us.
Addiction to substances more often then not triggers the happiness hormones "tanks" into throwing them out.
Psychological addiction torwards an act or behaviour functions the same but without the substances but the act in the Center of it. E.g. Winning in gambling.
(heavily simplified)
but is there a difference if the reward is virtual or real ? I'm not defending GTA its just I cant see the appeal of using real money to win pretend money when other options exist
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
2019/07/25 22:23:44
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
It's not about necessarily whether or not something is "real" but whether or not it makes your brain "feel" like it won.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
2019/07/25 22:58:35
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
but is there a difference if the reward is virtual or real ? I'm not defending GTA its just I cant see the appeal of using real money to win pretend money when other options exist
There's a difference. But it's difficult to quantify exactly how big of a difference it is.
You're not going to have players fantasizing about quitting their day job and retiring as a result of hitting it big in the GTAV casino. Because you can't pull the money back out, any real-world money that you sink into the game is permanently gone. You can't consider it an (very risky) investment. That should theoretically curb some of the most reckless behavior. But the addictive aspects of gambling are still present, as discussed in other parts of this post.
And virtual gambling is popular for a lot of people. In-game casinos (that only use in-game currency, mind you) pop up often enough in JPRGs. And when they're around, it's quite common to have particularly valuable equipment only available through doing well in the casino games.
2019/07/26 05:43:51
Subject: Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: And now GTAV introduced a literal casino you can buy money for, but not cash it out...
"BuT It'S nOt sTriCtLy GaMbLiNg"
That certainly won't lead to issues for addicts. No never how could it, it isn't like a casino without any oversight or register for gambling addicts. No that won't be an issue at all mister.....
Well atleast GTA is 18+ not e/3+. but still.......
Yep this one has me stumped, I'm not up on the psychology of gambling and addiction but given the difference between a virtual pretend casino and an actual online casino is but a click I'm really not sure if this is dangerous or not, maybe a bit gateway and doubtless there is some shady 3rd party exploiting that'll occur, and if pretend gambling is more fun than pretend running and gunning then I kind of glad my PC can't cope with GTA V
Addiction isn't really that difficult to understand.
It has to do with how our brain rewards us.
Addiction to substances more often then not triggers the happiness hormones "tanks" into throwing them out.
Psychological addiction torwards an act or behaviour functions the same but without the substances but the act in the Center of it. E.g. Winning in gambling.
(heavily simplified)
but is there a difference if the reward is virtual or real ? I'm not defending GTA its just I cant see the appeal of using real money to win pretend money when other options exist
No not really, else virtual casinos wouldn't work.
It is the act and winning against the odds that reeinforces that behaviour.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/26 06:45:32
Subject: Re:Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: Disingenuous to claim that at best. 50 countries have not "banned" the new GTAV update, Rockstar has not made it available to those countries.
BaconCatBug wrote: Disingenuous to claim that at best. 50 countries have not "banned" the new GTAV update, Rockstar has not made it available to those countries.
Ayy, if they would have found a workaround that would have flown by then nothing would've happened.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/07/26 12:48:10
Subject: Re:Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: Disingenuous to claim that at best. 50 countries have not "banned" the new GTAV update, Rockstar has not made it available to those countries.
BaconCatBug wrote: Disingenuous to claim that at best. 50 countries have not "banned" the new GTAV update, Rockstar has not made it available to those countries.
Do you have a reputable news source for that claim?
Really? Nitpicking over something like this? What, did having your thread shut down leave you salty enough to try and be "RAW" for IRL stuff like this too?
BaconCatBug wrote: Disingenuous to claim that at best. 50 countries have not "banned" the new GTAV update, Rockstar has not made it available to those countries.
Do you have a reputable news source for that claim?
Really? Nitpicking over something like this? What, did having your thread shut down leave you salty enough to try and be "RAW" for IRL stuff like this too?
Your search fu is weak, that or you got confirmation bias coming out of your ears.
Forbes is also not reputable. They allow anyone and everyone to write for them, no better than Buzzfeed. There is also nothing in the article to corroborate the clickbait headline.
Reddit put together a list of over 50 countries with gambling laws that appear to be restricting the gambling features of GTA Online, some with conflicting reports.
Oh wow, ok so random redditors are now authoritative sources? It even says "some with conflicting reports" so it's not even trying to claim to corroborate.
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2019/07/26 15:00:08
Subject: Re:Surprise Mechanics (Loot boxes and other horrible mechanics currently plaguing games)
BaconCatBug wrote: Disingenuous to claim that at best. 50 countries have not "banned" the new GTAV update, Rockstar has not made it available to those countries.
Do you have a reputable news source for that claim?
Really? Nitpicking over something like this? What, did having your thread shut down leave you salty enough to try and be "RAW" for IRL stuff like this too?
Your search fu is weak, that or you got confirmation bias coming out of your ears.
Forbes is also not reputable. They allow anyone and everyone to write for them, no better than Buzzfeed. There is also nothing in the article to corroborate the clickbait headline.
Reddit put together a list of over 50 countries with gambling laws that appear to be restricting the gambling features of GTA Online, some with conflicting reports.
Oh wow, ok so random redditors are now authoritative sources? It even says "some with conflicting reports" so it's not even trying to claim to corroborate.
If the articles aren't what you want, can you provide a "reputable" article that supports the counter claim you're making? Looking into this, it seems pretty straight forward, that some countries have indeed laws that has essentially banned said update.
