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WOWWW. It affects any attack, including fighting! EDIT: Oh, Shooting Phase. Duh. You can run Ryza without Cawl no problem now though. +2 to hit from two stratagems. Now +3.

I hope he is a named HQ. Triple Battalion would easily become standard.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
arent you required to base them if they were supplied with a base?

Yes. In tourneys, you run them with the base they got, no matter how weird it is.

Since its only 24 inches in range it screams to me Corpuscari. uploading on 5 and hitting on 2, may be quite good. Lucius vanguard detachment can say big feth you to many targets. Hell, lucius battalion with plasma vanguards will do since you can overcharge on multiple units.

He's definitely going to be "Techpriest Daedolosus" as a unique character, and probably Forgeworld Mars.

However he does look very interesting, nice to see it's a factionwide trait rather than a FW locked one. Ideal for a mixed faction force who can't as easily be boosted by a Dominus.

unfortunately yeah, he's bound to be unique and most likely mars.
Wish they'd give all the factions characters for each dogma/kulture/sept/etc like they did with marines

Hm. So you can still get them in the Combat Arena box, which is $40 at Barnes and Noble. Any idea how much a Blackstone Fortress expansion will cost? Probably also $40? Maybe more, come to think of it. As it includes baddies too.

$110 or something like that I think. Before the rules the individual characters were selling for £20 on ebay - so those Combat Arena boxes look like a decent investment.

Mars

Which would be only half bad, as his ability don't limit modifiers to <Mars> or even <Forgeworld> keywords. But I'd love to see some love for other FWs at last... I'm at the point when even removing <Mars> from Cawl's datasheet would satisfy me.

dadamowsky wrote:

Mars

Which would be only half bad, as his ability don't limit modifiers to <Mars> or even <Forgeworld> keywords. But I'd love to see some love for other FWs at last... I'm at the point when even removing <Mars> from Cawl's datasheet would satisfy me.

to be frank, if cawl gave his aura to all our forgeworlds, that would be pretty bonkers (ryzaphrons buffed by cawl reroll? yes please!)

The lack of a FW keyword is a really big deal. Because Elimination Volley still sucks. Imagine a list with 9-12x Ryza Destroyers and 4-6x Mars Robots. Both get that +1 to hit now. The Robots get 3+ with Cawl rerolls. The Destroyers get another +1 to hit for 2+ and Dominus rerolls.

More reasonable prediction would be triple Battalion, two of which are Mars (Breachers+Crawlers+Grators) and the third Stygies or mixed for DS.

VladimirHerzog wrote:

dadamowsky wrote:

Mars

Which would be only half bad, as his ability don't limit modifiers to <Mars> or even <Forgeworld> keywords. But I'd love to see some love for other FWs at last... I'm at the point when even removing <Mars> from Cawl's datasheet would satisfy me.

to be frank, if cawl gave his aura to all our forgeworlds, that would be pretty bonkers (ryzaphrons buffed by cawl reroll? yes please!)

When SMs can make a Chapter Master from every single Captain, and now they have rerolling all ability, it wouldnt even be unique ;P

Sorry if this is a dumb question. Is Blackstone Fortress 40K compatible? Also, what are the odds that that forge world-less scanner will get FAQ'ed or errata'd into one?

@bmsattler
It's the currently hot topic. It looks like yes, the new Enginseer is getting 40k rules.

Tastyfish wrote:
He's definitely going to be "Techpriest Daedolosus" as a unique character, and probably Forgeworld Mars.

However he does look very interesting, nice to see it's a factionwide trait rather than a FW locked one. Ideal for a mixed faction force who can't as easily be boosted by a Dominus.

Which means he's useless to me. :(

Where the hell is my Skitarii Primus instead of these useless <Mars> characters?!

@Kanluwen
You could take him in a mixed detachment. His ability seems to work with every Forgeworld, even if he is Mars (or not).

Admech has gotten an odd amount of love in the last year. Manipulus, this guy, new transport and tank. Outside of marines, chaos, or gsc I think we have actually gotten more stuff than any other line. Less complaining Kan. More joy!

 Hulksmash wrote:
Admech has gotten an odd amount of love in the last year. Manipulus, this guy, new transport and tank. Outside of marines, chaos, or gsc I think we have actually gotten more stuff than any other line. Less complaining Kan. More joy!

Nah, more complaining - it was probably what got us these new models...

I was quite salty last year when it comes to the Admech but now... the faction is not only playable, it has tools to actually win in competitive setting. I still think the codex needs revisiting for various reasons, but it's not nearly as bad as it was 2018. So... let's enjoy the moment we have (until they raise the Desintegrators points at least ;P )

 Suzuteo wrote:
@Kanluwen
You could take him in a mixed detachment. His ability seems to work with every Forgeworld, even if he is Mars (or not).

You've missed the point.

Them adding another potentially Martian character is dumb. The Manipulus was such a great thing because it wasn't a named character. Much like UR-025(no Mechanicus keywords), this guy will kill my enthusiasm for the release if he ends up being Martian.

Plus, do we really need yet more Techpriests? They keep taunting with the Skitarii Primus in fluff, just hurry up and do it!

 Hulksmash wrote:
Admech has gotten an odd amount of love in the last year. Manipulus, this guy, new transport and tank. Outside of marines, chaos, or gsc I think we have actually gotten more stuff than any other line. Less complaining Kan. More joy!

So outside of the three ranges that got overhauled, we got more stuff than any other?

And frankly, unless this guy is a generic character ruleswise? I'm not counting him as an AdMech release. If he ends up being Martian, he's a Mars release bundled with a boardgame.



Sorry, this is just getting frustrating to me. We keep getting more Techpriests. Some of us bought AdMech for the Skitarii side of things, not the Priest crap. There's a reason why I didn't own Cult Mechanicus last edition.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Suzuteo wrote:
@Kanluwen
You could take him in a mixed detachment. His ability seems to work with every Forgeworld, even if he is Mars (or not).

You've missed the point.

Them adding another potentially Martian character is dumb. The Manipulus was such a great thing because it wasn't a named character. Much like UR-025(no Mechanicus keywords), this guy will kill my enthusiasm for the release if he ends up being Martian.

Plus, do we really need yet more Techpriests? They keep taunting with the Skitarii Primus in fluff, just hurry up and do it!


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 Hulksmash wrote:
Admech has gotten an odd amount of love in the last year. Manipulus, this guy, new transport and tank. Outside of marines, chaos, or gsc I think we have actually gotten more stuff than any other line. Less complaining Kan. More joy!

So outside of the three ranges that got overhauled, we got more stuff than any other?

And frankly, unless this guy is a generic character ruleswise? I'm not counting him as an AdMech release. If he ends up being Martian, he's a Mars release bundled with a boardgame.

Have to agree on the <mars> bit. More Mars characters to arguably the strongest FW is a bit of an annoying thing from GW. Especially to less competitive FW like Metalica, a generic guy with this ability would be awesome. At least his abilities affect all Mechanicus units, so I can still use him, and he looks easy to make from leftover cybernetica priests combined with skitarii bits. I also like that we continue to get HQ's with unique abilities, that's the second character we've gotten with a unique buff that isn't just reroll all the things.

Am I weird for being kind of interested in the servitor too? He appears to have a grav cannon on his shoulder and gets +1 to hit vehicles. If he gets the mindlock bit too, he'd be BS3+ against vehicles with a grav cannon and the character keyword allowing him to hide in the open next to a tech priest. Plus he has a servo arm, so he may even be a halfway decent melee character. If he's relatively cheap, would make a nice bodyguard for your warlord, especially since it seems like he doesn't have a FW locked to him from the lore given. You'd essentially have a Kataphron that can't be shot at, IF his gun shares the kataphrons grav profile.

i'd have to see what all the servitor is for to get exited for him.
A servitor hitting vehicles at +1 is...pretty pathetic. They arent exactly accurate to begin with.

They mention in the article he has a grav-gun, so I wouldn't expect him to be a vehicle killing monster.

Also something to keep in mind is that the rules for these models are probably a one time thing. I wouldn't except them to be added to any future codex or rule/point cost updates.

X-101... So a grav-gun and maybe a hydraulic claw on a probably 3-4 wound character that hits vehicles on 3's or 4's. I hope he's cheap.

The priest though. Unless his price is dumb, I'll be adding him to my mixed detachment, for sure.

At the moment I am planning on chopping the grav gun off and using him as part of my standard servitors (the rest are made of Necromunda Goliaths mixed with spare kataphron parts)

Octovol wrote:
Holy crap that black stone fortress sklitarii is actually awesome!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/23/taking-it-beyond-the-fortressgw-homepage-post-1/

Calls him Skitarii <<<Binaric Screeching>>>

I reckon he is amazing, although might have its cost as he is well equipped although with a worse armor save, and maybe a better invuln instead, maybe even T3.

He is good for the sole purpose already, that he doesnt buff a <forgeworld> unit, but an adeptus mechanicus unit. So put him in your ryza or graia supplement instead of an enginseer and he will stil be useful. ALSO 3 battalions easily doable IF he will be an HQ, which he qualifies more than the average engineseer.

 Kanluwen wrote:


And frankly, unless this guy is a generic character ruleswise? I'm not counting him as an AdMech release. If he ends up being Martian, he's a Mars release bundled with a boardgame.

Sorry, this is just getting frustrating to me. We keep getting more Techpriests. Some of us bought AdMech for the Skitarii side of things, not the Priest crap. There's a reason why I didn't own Cult Mechanicus last edition.

He's not an Admech release though, he's an AdMech character in a board game. I wouldn't expect to see him or Larsen van der Grauss appearing in an updated codex.
Actually not seen Larsen appear in any lists, there some keyword issue rather or is his 5++ field just a bit rubbish for the points?

Tastyfish wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:


And frankly, unless this guy is a generic character ruleswise? I'm not counting him as an AdMech release. If he ends up being Martian, he's a Mars release bundled with a boardgame.

Sorry, this is just getting frustrating to me. We keep getting more Techpriests. Some of us bought AdMech for the Skitarii side of things, not the Priest crap. There's a reason why I didn't own Cult Mechanicus last edition.

He's not an Admech release though, he's an AdMech character in a board game. I wouldn't expect to see him or Larsen van der Grauss appearing in an updated codex.
Actually not seen Larsen appear in any lists, there some keyword issue rather or is his 5++ field just a bit rubbish for the points?

His 5++ is rubbish because it works only on <Eludician Starstriders>. If it was a KFF for Admech equivalent it would be quite good.

Larsen van der Grauss looks so cool though. It would be funny to bring the Starstriders in one of our new transports.

Looking at the other models, I think Guard might like that Psyker. That's a +1 to hit psychic power.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AdeptusMechanicus/comments/cuvm2u/daedalosus_x101_stats/

Tech priest seems realy good AND is an HQ choice.
X101 is weird, even more so that he isnt a character and the hydraulic claw is a weird weapon.
I find it weird that he cant use his servo arm.

Apparently he is just 50 points which is very nice.
Do you guys think he will be that useful? He has to get within 24" for his ability and your units have to be within 6" of him to benefit. So he kind of has contradicting incentives with the manipulus, which let's you stay back and out range your opponents.

At 50 points I don’t see any reason not to take him in a pure Ad Mech army. Replaces one of your 3 Tech-Priest Enginseers and actually does something for only a 20 point increase.