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2019/07/02 15:25:23
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Doesn't look like a rhino, at all.
The same cutting edges and flanks and nose as a Land Raider or repulsor.
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2019/07/02 16:46:21
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Hanskrampf wrote:WhiteDog wrote: Hanskrampf wrote:Redemptor seems to have a twin-autocannon.
Reiver Lt was already in Shadowspear, so this is just another one with slightly different weapons?
No the lieutenant in shadowspear didn't had a combat knife...
Yeah, so... slightly different weapon.
Not really?
The Lieutenant from Shadowspear had the "knife fighter" rule and it raised a lot of eyebrows at the time as the Lt had more pointing towards him being a "sniper" styled infiltrator with the Occulus Bolt-Carbine granting him the ability to ignore Cover Saves.
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2019/07/02 16:51:38
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
Ottawa
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godardc wrote:Doesn't look like a rhino, at all.
The same cutting edges and flanks and nose as a Land Raider or repulsor.
Was going to say this. Thing looks like a Repulsor with a new front plate in place of the hull mounted weapon. Furthermore, I'm not convinced that's actually a turret. Looks more like a communication dish to me.
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2019/07/02 16:54:25
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hanskrampf wrote:WhiteDog wrote: Hanskrampf wrote:Redemptor seems to have a twin-autocannon.
Reiver Lt was already in Shadowspear, so this is just another one with slightly different weapons?
No the lieutenant in shadowspear didn't had a combat knife...
Yeah, so... slightly different weapon.
"Slightly" different in that he had a different knife, different rifle (and can't take pistols unlike Reivers), no access to their grenades, hooks, or skull mask.
So, had literally nothing in common with Reivers save for similar ability to deep strike. How is that "Reiver" lieutenant, again?
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2019/07/02 17:06:57
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Irbis wrote:
"Slightly" different in that he had a different knife, different rifle (and can't take pistols unlike Reivers), no access to their grenades, hooks, or skull mask.
So, had literally nothing in common with Reivers save for similar ability to deep strike. How is that "Reiver" lieutenant, again?
He has phobos armour, grav-chutes and sucks in close combat. Just like the Reivers.
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2019/07/02 18:52:07
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So it looks like a Primaris Rhino/Razerback equivalent and a Primaris Dread Knight to my eye. Looking forward to better pictures of the cool new toys to paint up, but not to a SM codex that's nearly as big as the main 40k rule book
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2019/07/02 18:53:44
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Basecoated Black
East Midlands
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If they could just get around to releasing the Imperial/Crimson Fists upgrade sprue* that was including in the xmas Imperial Fists Battleforce box that would be great.
*ideally with the fist logo the right way around this time
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2019/07/02 18:58:18
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Ship's Officer
London
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The dread is interesting in that it kind of looks to me like there's a whole space marine sat in it, rather than just a bit of one in a sarcophagos.
The other stuff I really don't know. That appears to be another repulsor variant but maybe it's something else entirely. Maybe it's a transport for infiltrators, since the rest of this release looks like it's vanguard-type people. It's definitely a skimmer-type thing with a lot in common with the repulsor, but it seems slightly smaller. Not sure if it's a new sprue like the executioner or a whole new tank.
This does mean I'm probably not going out to buy three Repulsor Executioners this weekend. Probably for the best all round.
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2019/07/02 18:58:20
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Autocannon dread with a different rocket pod eh? I’ll take that.
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2019/07/02 19:05:17
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The parody doesn't work when GW actually keeps releasing Primaris Luitenant after Primaris Luitenant.
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2019/07/02 19:08:47
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
France
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Crimson wrote: Irbis wrote:
"Slightly" different in that he had a different knife, different rifle (and can't take pistols unlike Reivers), no access to their grenades, hooks, or skull mask.
So, had literally nothing in common with Reivers save for similar ability to deep strike. How is that "Reiver" lieutenant, again?
He has phobos armour, grav-chutes and sucks in close combat. Just like the Reivers.
Reavers also suck at shooting tho.
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2019/07/02 19:30:58
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Lord Damocles wrote:The parody doesn't work when GW actually keeps releasing Primaris Luitenant after Primaris Luitenant.
In fairness they've basicly stopped since they started getting in on the joke too. yes there was a new Primaris Lt released with shadowspear but he was differant eneugh to be a legit needed mini. really the only extranous primaris Lt to come out was the one in wake the dead.
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2019/07/02 19:57:18
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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What bothered me about the advert for these ridic new primaris weenies, is the text presuming these to be everyone's favs. Who is this "everyone"?
it seems to me that the intention is to either turn everyone into a home printing rules writer, or to turn everyone who ever did favour space marines to turn to chaos as the new cawliferous mechification of glory turns everyone's favorite, space marines, into drooling man children named Bifficus Rey (after the much beloved SW character).
Thoughts?
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2019/07/02 20:04:12
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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jeff white wrote:What bothered me about the advert for these ridic new primaris weenies, is the text presuming these to be everyone's favs. Who is this "everyone"?
it seems to me that the intention is to either turn everyone into a home printing rules writer, or to turn everyone who ever did favour space marines to turn to chaos as the new cawliferous mechification of glory turns everyone's favorite, space marines, into drooling man children named Bifficus Rey (after the much beloved SW character).
Thoughts?
I liked old loyalists and I like Primaris, so I dont know what you're on about.
I also like Chaos Marines (well not really playing them anymore, but I like them).
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2019/07/02 20:14:58
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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jeff white wrote:What bothered me about the advert for these ridic new primaris weenies, is the text presuming these to be everyone's favs. Who is this "everyone"?
it seems to me that the intention is to either turn everyone into a home printing rules writer, or to turn everyone who ever did favour space marines to turn to chaos as the new cawliferous mechification of glory turns everyone's favorite, space marines, into drooling man children named Bifficus Rey (after the much beloved SW character).
Thoughts?
They're aimed at people who like Space Marines but want their models to actually look good.
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2019/07/02 20:19:03
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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BrianDavion wrote: Lord Damocles wrote:The parody doesn't work when GW actually keeps releasing Primaris Luitenant after Primaris Luitenant.
In fairness they've basicly stopped since they started getting in on the joke too. yes there was a new Primaris Lt released with shadowspear but he was differant eneugh to be a legit needed mini. really the only extranous primaris Lt to come out was the one in wake the dead.
And in fairness, the whining about Lieutenants was ridiculous to begin with.
There were two in Dark Imperium(the core starter set). Each one was set up differently.
Fast forward to the Dark Angels and Blood Angels releases, where each one got a single Lieutenant model as part of their releases--which otherwise was fairly unimpressive, just an upgrade frame for Primaris reboxed with vanilla stuff.
Then came Tooth and Claw with the Battle Leader, releasing as part of the whole thing for the Space Wolves.
And then Wake the Dead, which brought out the first 'vanilla' Marine Lieutenant that was available outside of Dark Imperium--and was clearly intended to be an Ultramarine.
Lastly we've had Shadowspear's Phobos Lieutenant, which was a fairly radical divergence as was( IMO) the Space Wolf variant.
We've had two promo ones, I think, but one isn't available outside of UK/Europe and the other is an event exclusive so don't really count.
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2019/07/02 20:28:18
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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There was Lt. Calsius in the Conquest mag as well.
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2019/07/02 20:30:33
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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That's the one who wasn't outside of UK/Europe.
Because Conquest isn't available outside of UK/Europe, as far as I'm aware, without having someone mail it to you.
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2019/07/02 20:33:48
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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The character in the robes is interesting... are they finally releasing ta gravies captain box?
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2019/07/02 20:35:39
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Kanluwen wrote:That's the one who wasn't outside of UK/Europe.
Because Conquest isn't available outside of UK/Europe, as far as I'm aware, without having someone mail it to you.
Available in Aus now.
There are 2 limited ones. One is an event special, the other was for the 500th store opening.
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2019/07/02 20:45:04
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This is way better than "Rumour Engine", even though I'm not interested in Space Marine.
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2019/07/02 20:50:11
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Ship's Officer
London
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Chopstick wrote:This is way better than "Rumour Engine", even though I'm not interested in Space Marine.
Agreed. It’s quite fun. Now give me the rules for those units so I can make my LGT list.
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2019/07/02 21:43:11
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Hallowed Canoness
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Kanluwen wrote: And in fairness, the whining about Lieutenants was ridiculous to begin with. There were two in Dark Imperium(the core starter set). Each one was set up differently. Fast forward to the Dark Angels and Blood Angels releases, where each one got a single Lieutenant model as part of their releases--which otherwise was fairly unimpressive, just an upgrade frame for Primaris reboxed with vanilla stuff. Then came Tooth and Claw with the Battle Leader, releasing as part of the whole thing for the Space Wolves. And then Wake the Dead, which brought out the first 'vanilla' Marine Lieutenant that was available outside of Dark Imperium--and was clearly intended to be an Ultramarine. Lastly we've had Shadowspear's Phobos Lieutenant, which was a fairly radical divergence as was( IMO) the Space Wolf variant. We've had two promo ones, I think, but one isn't available outside of UK/Europe and the other is an event exclusive so don't really count.
I love this. I LOVE THIS! We got a whole message telling us “The Primaris Lt thing was overblown, there was only 10 different minis for the same model in the most recent 40k army!” Do you even look at how many different minis there are for other armies' models?
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2019/07/02 22:01:13
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I love this. I LOVE THIS!
We got a whole message telling us “The Primaris Lt thing was overblown, there was only 10 different minis for the same model in the most recent 40k army!”
Do you even look at how many different minis there are for other armies' models?
Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves are considered different armies to Vanilla Space Marines.
Ultramarines aren't Raven Guard, Iron Hands, White Scars, or Imperial Fists either.
So there are 3 different models(the two Dark Imperium and the Phobos LT from Shadowspear), shared across 4 armies(Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Vanilla Marines).
And then there's 4 different models across 4 armies that share the same title but are made up specifically in that faction's aesthetics.
And then there's a few promo models that:
A) Not everyone has access to
B) No interest in because, spoiler, they're done up in the Ultramarines style again.
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2019/07/02 22:03:43
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
The Battle Barge Buffet Line
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I remember the old days when the blurry soon to be C&D'ed pics of upcoming models were posted by the community and not gw. It's so much better to laugh with GW rather than at them.
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2019/07/02 23:02:36
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:I love this. I LOVE THIS!
We got a whole message telling us “The Primaris Lt thing was overblown, there was only 10 different minis for the same model in the most recent 40k army!”
Do you even look at how many different minis there are for other armies' models?
Maybe you should look in the mirror then look at say Death Guard (more character models than Space Marines got in five armies in three years, in a single release, and it's about to be doubled with japanese boxes), Cults (ditto, including doubles of characters they already had), Chaos (including some random mooks no one uses, not vital HQs SM really need), Nurgle (as big offender as DG), or recent pile of other Chaos Daemons, or even more recent Gobbos, then you will realize how ridiculous SM whine sounds when literally every single army released in last 3 years got more, and often quite extraneous models. All while SM still have massive gaps in their line (no ancients or gravis HQs outside of old starter box for one), and that's just models that already have rules. The problem goes much deeper than that (still no melee HQs for primaris of any sort, or deep strikers, or access to any guns besides basic bolters, etc etc), frankly, if anyone got dumb, superfluous models that wasted release time recently it was not SM, sorry
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2019/07/02 23:06:17
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
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Ultimately this is a good-natured mini-preview of some upcoming Primaris releases framed with some self-deprecating humour about the amount of Primaris Lt's they've put out and how that became a meme.
Kanluwen wrote:And in fairness, the whining about Lieutenants was ridiculous to begin with.
It wasn't whining, it was ridicule. And it was funny. The fact that you saw it as an attack on precious vulnerable GW isn't a surprise.
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2019/07/02 23:23:55
Subject: Re:primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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on the subject of Leuitenants there really was a Lt in the mix so chances are we're going to get a seperate Lt on Phobis armor blister
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2019/07/02 23:42:31
Subject: primaris lieutenant news (and some other stuff...)
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2019/07/03 00:00:39
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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It was an assault! An it was hurtful.
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