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If Primaris Lieutenants sell well, GW will continue making them. I doubt the social media guys and girls even have a say in what miniatures get designed and/or ultimately green-lit.

If their social media strategy were dead-serious, there‘d still be the same amount of Primaris Lieutenants released.

As someone else said, this could be the first general release of a Primaris Lieutenant not in a boxed set. That makes it something interesting in and of itself.

Also, the Facebook page playing along with all of the community's jokes is awesome. It shows they are paying attention to what we say. Perhaps that could be even why we are getting, what appears to be, a smaller transport tank that isn't primarily a gunboat (it seems to have one small turret). People have been asking for that for about two years now.

I can't wait to see the next image. It seems to be implying the Infiltrators. I certainly hope so. I want another squad or two of them.

My guess is the actual full reveal will be this coming Sunday.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
As someone else said, this could be the first general release of a Primaris Lieutenant not in a boxed set. That makes it something interesting in and of itself.

Also, the Facebook page playing along with all of the community's jokes is awesome. It shows they are paying attention to what we say. Perhaps that could be even why we are getting, what appears to be, a smaller transport tank that isn't primarily a gunboat (it seems to have one small turret). People have been asking for that for about two years now.

I can't wait to see the next image. It seems to be implying the Infiltrators. I certainly hope so. I want another squad or two of them.

I'm really hoping that the thing isn't a transport tank. I like that we're seeing stuff themed around the Phobos setup. I want to see that fleshed out more. Infiltrators don't exactly need a transport.

I'm hoping for something more along the lines of the Rhino Damocles Command Tank or the like, with an 'uplink' for orbital strikes or the like.

My guess is the actual full reveal will be this coming Sunday.

We have two previews this week. Tomorrow from GenCon and Saturday from Warhammer World's Apocalypse event.

I'd expect the previews there.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
As someone else said, this could be the first general release of a Primaris Lieutenant not in a boxed set. That makes it something interesting in and of itself.

Eh, the thing is, it's niche specialist company Lt who doesn't really fit even the full primaris army visually, only the vanguard one. If GW wanted to release 'general' Lt, they have no less than two already waiting in the wings, WtD one and the Conquest model (though that last one might be exclusive to mag, I don't know)...

Voss wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Oh right, retract my previous statement.

It's like they think the Primmy statline is so devastating that if they give them more than a spoon all armies will be swept before them. It's inexplicable.

Given the comment about a lt in gravis armor, and chaos aspiring champions getting thunder hammers I'm hoping we see a Lt in gravis armor with a thunderhammer down the road

Eh. More likely a super special 'Cawl brand' hammer that's slightly different and only theoretically better.

Just like all the power axes/swords/fists used by primaris are 'Cawl brand'? Wait a minute...

 Kanluwen wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
As someone else said, this could be the first general release of a Primaris Lieutenant not in a boxed set. That makes it something interesting in and of itself.

Also, the Facebook page playing along with all of the community's jokes is awesome. It shows they are paying attention to what we say. Perhaps that could be even why we are getting, what appears to be, a smaller transport tank that isn't primarily a gunboat (it seems to have one small turret). People have been asking for that for about two years now.

I can't wait to see the next image. It seems to be implying the Infiltrators. I certainly hope so. I want another squad or two of them.

I'm really hoping that the thing isn't a transport tank. I like that we're seeing stuff themed around the Phobos setup. I want to see that fleshed out more. Infiltrators don't exactly need a transport.

I'm hoping for something more along the lines of the Rhino Damocles Command Tank or the like, with an 'uplink' for orbital strikes or the like.

You certainly could be right. The entire Phobos line doesn't need a transport as literally everything can deploy forward in some way. But you could say the same thing for Space Marine Scouts, and they still have their own transport. The turret doesn't appear to be communications equipment, as it has barrels on the turret piece. But, I would definitely like an alternate build that would function like what you are describing. The Dreadnought seems to be packing a miniature Las Impulsor on its right arm.

My guess is the actual full reveal will be this coming Sunday.

We have two previews this week. Tomorrow from GenCon and Saturday from Warhammer World's Apocalypse event.

I'd expect the previews there.

Yeah, I have been off the grid for the past two weeks(who knew Wisconsin was a untamed jungle, by the way?) so I didn't even realize GenCon was right around the corner. That is definitely a good point. I would still expect some more tongue-in-cheek preview images.


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 Irbis wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
As someone else said, this could be the first general release of a Primaris Lieutenant not in a boxed set. That makes it something interesting in and of itself.

Eh, the thing is, it's niche specialist company Lt who doesn't really fit even the full primaris army visually, only the vanguard one. If GW wanted to release 'general' Lt, they have no less than two already waiting in the wings, WtD one and the Conquest model (though that last one might be exclusive to mag, I don't know)...

Those are the ones I am missing, otherwise I would have the whole set! But yeah, this new one *kinda* goes in the territory of the Sword and Pistol version in Dark Imperium, but it isn't quite the same (maybe a MC Combat Knife is a possibility, with -1 or -2 AP and 2D). Still, depending on how things go, I might swap out a quarter of my army for Phobos units (I like the imbedded medical in the squads). Time will tell.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Those are the ones I am missing, otherwise I would have the whole set! But yeah, this new one *kinda* goes in the territory of the Sword and Pistol version in Dark Imperium, but it isn't quite the same (maybe a MC Combat Knife is a possibility, with -1 or -2 AP and 2D). Still, depending on how things go, I might swap out a quarter of my army for Phobos units (I like the imbedded medical in the squads). Time will tell.

Funny thing is, you're right - unless you take grav chutes, there is zero reason to run this guy as vanguard Lt (super niche applications happening once in a thousand years such as using his skull mask or buffing him with vanguard librarian aside). Just count him as regular lieutenant, you will have slightly worse pistol, but at least he will gain a power sword. Man, primaris are in really sad state that you need to count stuff as different units to actually gain options they should have had to begin with...

 Irbis wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
As someone else said, this could be the first general release of a Primaris Lieutenant not in a boxed set. That makes it something interesting in and of itself.

Eh, the thing is, it's niche specialist company Lt who doesn't really fit even the full primaris army visually, only the vanguard one. If GW wanted to release 'general' Lt, they have no less than two already waiting in the wings, WtD one and the Conquest model (though that last one might be exclusive to mag, I don't know)...

Voss wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Oh right, retract my previous statement.

It's like they think the Primmy statline is so devastating that if they give them more than a spoon all armies will be swept before them. It's inexplicable.

Given the comment about a lt in gravis armor, and chaos aspiring champions getting thunder hammers I'm hoping we see a Lt in gravis armor with a thunderhammer down the road

Eh. More likely a super special 'Cawl brand' hammer that's slightly different and only theoretically better.

Just like all the power axes/swords/fists used by primaris are 'Cawl brand'? Wait a minute...

The conquest one has sculpted on Ultramarines stuff, so is in a similiar position as the DA one.

The Waking The Dead one though - no reason that can't be released in its own box.

 Irbis wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Those are the ones I am missing, otherwise I would have the whole set! But yeah, this new one *kinda* goes in the territory of the Sword and Pistol version in Dark Imperium, but it isn't quite the same (maybe a MC Combat Knife is a possibility, with -1 or -2 AP and 2D). Still, depending on how things go, I might swap out a quarter of my army for Phobos units (I like the imbedded medical in the squads). Time will tell.

Funny thing is, you're right - unless you take grav chutes, there is zero reason to run this guy as vanguard Lt (super niche applications happening once in a thousand years such as using his skull mask or buffing him with vanguard librarian aside). Just count him as regular lieutenant, you will have slightly worse pistol, but at least he will gain a power sword. Man, primaris are in really sad state that you need to count stuff as different units to actually gain options they should have had to begin with...

As the poster below stated, I am sure the Wake the Dead Lieutenant will get a general release and solve that problem. I already have him, though.

I wouldn't be surprised if this new Lieutenant can Scout move like Infiltrators, and the Phobos Captain and Librarian can. It offers some different options. Still, the lack of a proper melee weapon sucks. But, if you wanted to use him as a Power Sword LT, you could always cut the blade off the combat knife and glue a power sword blade there instead.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 gainsay wrote:
Well I mean GW seems to think its smart to openly troll people on their official facebook which is unbelievably stupid.

They're not trolling people. They're leaning into a joke that their community started.

It's also acknowledging that there's an issue in the first place, which is also good and healthy.

I mean, this is equal parts joining in the fun, and holding their hands up with 'yes, you've all got a point. Thank you for your feedback'.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if this new Lieutenant can Scout move like Infiltrators, and the Phobos Captain and Librarian can. It offers some different options. Still, the lack of a proper melee weapon sucks. But, if you wanted to use him as a Power Sword LT, you could always cut the blade off the combat knife and glue a power sword blade there instead.

I really cannot fathom the thought process which resulted the Phobos characters not getting melee weapons. These guys can sneak close to the enemy... and then scowl angrily at them or something. It is even more inexplicable in the case of the Reiver Lt. who doesn't even have a long arm. His whole fething purpose is to engage CC and now he will utterly suck at it.

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if this new Lieutenant can Scout move like Infiltrators, and the Phobos Captain and Librarian can. It offers some different options. Still, the lack of a proper melee weapon sucks. But, if you wanted to use him as a Power Sword LT, you could always cut the blade off the combat knife and glue a power sword blade there instead.

I really cannot fathom the thought process which resulted the Phobos characters not getting melee weapons. These guys can sneak close to the enemy... and then scowl angrily at them or something. It is even more inexplicable in the case of the Reiver Lt. who doesn't even have a long arm. His whole fething purpose is to engage CC and now he will utterly suck at it.

It's the same logic that led to the Forgebane booklet only including rules for Skitarii Rangers.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's the same logic that led to the Forgebane booklet only including rules for Skitarii Rangers.

Do Forgebane Rangers have some special, hilariously weak guns nothing else in the AM range gets, like the knife of the Vanguard Lt? Yes/No? Because that's completely wrong comparison, the fact SM officer costing tons of points has worse rules than 4 pts IG mooks when it comes to his melee weapon can't be defended, at all...

 Crimson wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if this new Lieutenant can Scout move like Infiltrators, and the Phobos Captain and Librarian can. It offers some different options. Still, the lack of a proper melee weapon sucks. But, if you wanted to use him as a Power Sword LT, you could always cut the blade off the combat knife and glue a power sword blade there instead.

I really cannot fathom the thought process which resulted the Phobos characters not getting melee weapons. These guys can sneak close to the enemy... and then scowl angrily at them or something. It is even more inexplicable in the case of the Reiver Lt. who doesn't even have a long arm. His whole fething purpose is to engage CC and now he will utterly suck at it.

Pretty simple, those writing rules for Primaris are probably the worst rules writers in the last few editions. They have absolutely no idea how the current game works or how desperately far behind Primaris are in being remotely playable even in a non competitive way.

 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's the same logic that led to the Forgebane booklet only including rules for Skitarii Rangers.

Do Forgebane Rangers have some special, hilariously weak guns nothing else in the AM range gets, like the knife of the Vanguard Lt? Yes/No? Because that's completely wrong comparison, the fact SM officer costing tons of points has worse rules than 4 pts IG mooks when it comes to his melee weapon can't be defended, at all...

It's not my problem you can't understand the exceedingly simple comparison of "The boxed game narrative drives what options are available". The vanguard booklet was by no means a complete Codex any more than Forgebane was for the AdMech.

That is the logic referred to. They didn't give the option to build Vanguard, despite the kit literally being the same, in Forgebane...and you lot are expecting them to put weapon options on the monopose character jammed onto a sprue with the simple build stuff? And acting like this will be the end all/be all?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's the same logic that led to the Forgebane booklet only including rules for Skitarii Rangers.

Do Forgebane Rangers have some special, hilariously weak guns nothing else in the AM range gets, like the knife of the Vanguard Lt? Yes/No? Because that's completely wrong comparison, the fact SM officer costing tons of points has worse rules than 4 pts IG mooks when it comes to his melee weapon can't be defended, at all...

It's not my problem you can't understand the exceedingly simple comparison of "The boxed game narrative drives what options are available". The vanguard booklet was by no means a complete Codex any more than Forgebane was for the AdMech.

That is the logic referred to. They didn't give the option to build Vanguard, despite the kit literally being the same, in Forgebane...and you lot are expecting them to put weapon options on the monopose character jammed onto a sprue with the simple build stuff? And acting like this will be the end all/be all?

There have been a fair few Primaris releases by which to judge their approach to options.

PrimarisLt Twitter Feed wrote:
Looking forward to the preview on Saturday.
Fingers crossed for more Primaris Lieutenant news!
#PrimarisLieutenant

Looks like Saturday is the mark to hit for this stuff showing up.

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 NivlacSupreme wrote:

There have been a fair few Primaris releases by which to judge their approach to options.

Yes...and that approach has been "the full kits tend to have more options".

Hellblasters from Dark Imperium didn't have any of their options, Inceptors didn't, Intercessors didn't. Why would people think Shadowspear would be different?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Yes...and that approach has been "the full kits tend to have more options".

I am eagerly awaiting these full kits that will give my Primaris Characters more options!

Yes the main sprues for Inters is awash with options!

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Yes the main sprues for Inters is awash with options!

A whole three choices of almost identical looking gun!

 NivlacSupreme wrote:

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Yes the main sprues for Inters is awash with options!

A whole three choices of almost identical looking gun!

Two of which have such terrible rules that you'd never use them!

But let's remember, that regardless of no such parts coming in the kit, the Intercessor Sergeant is the Primaris model with overwhelmingly the best selection of melee weapons. So if they would give similar options to Primaris characters, I would be more than happy. Whether parts for those options come in the kits or not is immaterial to me, I have an extensive bits box.

 RandyMcStab wrote:
Yes the main sprues for Inters is awash with options!

Stalker, Auto, or 'vanilla' Bolt Rifles.
Auxiliary Grenade Launchers for 1:5 models

Whether the choices are "almost identical looking guns" or not, they are choices that aren't on the sprues for Dark Imperium.
And hell, one of the choices(Power Sword for Intercessor Sergeant) wasn't even on the sprue allowing for kitbashing/proxying the Lt with BP+Power Sword from Dark Imperium.

When are the models that we've seen in the Primaris Lieutenants video and Twitter account going to be available? Speculation/guessing is fine.

 Psionara wrote:
When are the models that we've seen in the Primaris Lieutenants video and Twitter account going to be available? Speculation/guessing is fine.

mid augest I'm guessing

BrianDavion wrote:

 Psionara wrote:
When are the models that we've seen in the Primaris Lieutenants video and Twitter account going to be available? Speculation/guessing is fine.

mid augest I'm guessing

Awww yeahhh! Can't wait!

August 17 at the absolute earliest. Unless they put them up for pre-order this Saturday, which has pretty much never happened.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
August 17 at the absolute earliest. Unless they put them up for pre-order this Saturday, which has pretty much never happened.

Aug 17th would be good, by then I'll have actually paid for my battletech kickstarter so no worries of accidently spending that money on 40k.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
August 17 at the absolute earliest. Unless they put them up for pre-order this Saturday, which has pretty much never happened.

Saturday's preorders are Enforcers and the rest of Warcry (barring the two unpictured gangs), so definitely not.

I suspect this will be a big enough reveal that it'll be another two week preorder.