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Also holy fething gak. This is exciting, but it's either going to be really really amazing, or utterly irredeemably terrible. Both the writing and who they cast for Eisenhorn are going to be vital given how much the first-person perspective of the novels allows Eisenhorn's internal thoughts to handle a lot of the heavy lifting of worldbuilding, which could be an issue for the show especially after he goes through the nerve torture that leaves his face expressionless.
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Honestly, if they were going to do ANY 40k property as a TV show, Eisenhorn is probably the best one to pick. Has a small-ish cast of recurring characters, and is at least somewhat familiar to audiences who aren't into 40k. The procedural cop drama format would work pretty well with him. Would be a hell of a lot more accessible than something about Space Marines or something.
But they do say we’re some years off - and it may yet come to naught.
I’m guessing (and no more than that) that the production company foots the initial development bill, up to script writing, maybe shooting some test footage or a pilot (are pilots still a thing?). From there, whore it round the release studios etc, see if anyone wants it.
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Sorry brit-bros, but Dawn of War already established the party lines for 40K voices.
Americans = Space Marines, Dark Eldar
UK = Guard (higher the rank, more posh the accent), Eldar, Orks
Asians = Tau (rip)
Fruityloops = Tyranids, Necrons
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Horst wrote: Honestly, if they were going to do ANY 40k property as a TV show, Eisenhorn is probably the best one to pick. Has a small-ish cast of recurring characters, and is at least somewhat familiar to audiences who aren't into 40k. The procedural cop drama format would work pretty well with him. Would be a hell of a lot more accessible than something about Space Marines or something.
Yup, that. Also the fact that he's a little more relatable than many 40K characters is the big thing for getting people unfamiliar with the franchise interested..
Flinty wrote: All I'm saying is they need to get the combat scenes scripted by the guy with the Astartes fan film.
I think the biggest problem might be the weapons. As soon as you stick 40k model scale macro sized weapons into the hands of real people it gets cartoony and stupid real fast. I hope they can get some decent gunsmiths and weapons experts on the case.
So make 'em more "realistically" sized. After all, GW have never claimed their models are authentic scale models.
Look at the original Eisenhorn model and the rest of the Inquisitor range; they all had weapons that were more "realistically" scaled, as they were larger miniatures so didn't need the same sort of distortions as 28mm models.
Overread wrote: Will Smith apparently sneaks 40K into a few films now and then in terms of models appearing.
Vin Diesel is certainly a nerd and would really fit well, esp as he's done a lot of grim-dark through Pitch Black, but at the same time I'd rather he worked on the next film in his saga.
Of course if they got Patrick Stewart then that would instantly guarantee them greatness at least!
That said those are all big names with likely big costs to go with them. I'd honestly rather more money went into general production and some solid, if "no name" actors rather tahn get soaked up in a big lead actor and leave less for the actual production.
A TV series is also a great thing, gives far more scope for character development, especially as we are currently in an age where we are not slaved to "monster/alien of the week" formats. Where we can have a heavy story driven saga that isn't trying to start and finish every episode in the same place bar the opening and ending episodes.
Is there a citation for that? I'm really interested, Will Smith doesn't seem like the type of person who'd be into 40K?
Well I hope it does get picked up. And that it doesn’t get stuck in any kind of development hell.
With the following it has, it’s more than a lot of properties that make it, but depend on a lot of factors.
Sometimes these things never come to fruition.
But I’d imagine it’s quite far into the development and transforming to script and all that, if we are getting to the point of announcing it like this (ignoring what GW are deciding to do, but from a tv production standpoint).
Overread wrote: Will Smith apparently sneaks 40K into a few films now and then in terms of models appearing.
Vin Diesel is certainly a nerd and would really fit well, esp as he's done a lot of grim-dark through Pitch Black, but at the same time I'd rather he worked on the next film in his saga.
Of course if they got Patrick Stewart then that would instantly guarantee them greatness at least!
That said those are all big names with likely big costs to go with them. I'd honestly rather more money went into general production and some solid, if "no name" actors rather tahn get soaked up in a big lead actor and leave less for the actual production.
A TV series is also a great thing, gives far more scope for character development, especially as we are currently in an age where we are not slaved to "monster/alien of the week" formats. Where we can have a heavy story driven saga that isn't trying to start and finish every episode in the same place bar the opening and ending episodes.
Is there a citation for that? I'm really interested, Will Smith doesn't seem like the type of person who'd be into 40K?
Considering his devotion to a cult of kooky Xenos loving, sci-fi nutbags, I wouldn't be so sure. ;-)
The tie-in game, Mark Strong's narration aside, was horrible enough an afront to the Eisenhorn saga. I can't see this ending well either, fething Hollywood.
I am sure it will be at least as good as Ultramarines: The Movie.
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Togusa wrote: Is there a citation for that? I'm really interested, Will Smith doesn't seem like the type of person who'd be into 40K?
Will Smith is one of those celebrities who is long rumored but never confirmed 100% to be into 40K.
That being said, the evidence for this is better than most - in addition to the usual "my friend saw Will Smith in a Gee Dubs once", he snuck a White Dwarf into Enemy of the State.
Why wouldn't Will Smith be the kind of dude who would be into 40k? He starred in Bright, ffs.
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I mean, OK, but is that a case of "Will Smith snuck a WD into the movie" or a case of something like "Hey Camera Bloke, we need a magazine for the kid to read in this scene, you got any of those ones your brat is into in the break room?".
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Yodhrin wrote: I mean, OK, but is that a case of "Will Smith snuck a WD into the movie" or a case of something like "Hey Camera Bloke, we need a magazine for the kid to read in this scene, you got any of those ones your brat is into in the break room?".
I do recall there being a story doing the rounds at the time it happened that Smith provided the magazine. But, you know, internet.
Someone on twitter suggested Mark Strong for Eisenhorn. I could see that working.
Yodhrin wrote: I mean, OK, but is that a case of "Will Smith snuck a WD into the movie" or a case of something like "Hey Camera Bloke, we need a magazine for the kid to read in this scene, you got any of those ones your brat is into in the break room?".
Overread wrote:Pretty sure Will Smith is confirmed as Warhammer models have appeared in a few of the films he's in - often held by his child in the film itself. Though I can't for the life of me remember which films.
Buddy of mine mentioned Will and Jaden Smith coming into a GW he worked at years ago to get models.
You know, I’m really hoping that in terms of Dredd Equivalent?
The ‘getting the look right’ of the Stallone Dredd. The ‘getting the feel right’ of the Urban Dredd.
Oooooooooooh. Karl Urban for Gregor Eisenhorn? He’s a decently big name, has screen presence in spades, and isn’t too expensive(not saying the man is cheap!)
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I will be excited if it gets further along than the Deadlands TV that was supposed to be on Xbox Live or something like a decade ago. Until then, it's got a long way to the top if it wants to rock n' roll.
Here’s the foreword from the curator of the Warhammer 40,000 Legends partwork collection.
Foreword from Xenos wrote:
Out of the hundreds of novels written about the Warhammer 40,000 universe, Xenos offers a unique insight.
In a galaxy consumed by war, many of the stories naturally focus on the battlefield, on the clash of vast armies, on creatures and beings of inhuman power, and on mankind’s last battles against The Dark Gods of Chaos.
These stories are marked by the deaths of billions, and the heroism of the few.
Xenos is different. Told through the eyes of Inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn, it follows the conflicts that happen far away from the roar of massed guns and blood-soaked battlefields. This is the other face of Warhammer 40,000, crowded with teeming millions and gnawed at by threats that lurk in the shadows.
We get to see what a part of The Imperium is like when it is not beset by war. With Eisenhorn we walk through vast cities, and meet characters who rule planets or eke out an existence in ignorance of the civilisation they’re a tiny part of.
This view of The Imperium is only possible through the eyes of a character like Eisenhorn, whose Inquisitorial authority allows him free access to secrets that few others have, to move freely and act as sees fit. In an age of ignorance such perspective is rare beyond measure.
Beyond it’s vision of The Imperium of Man, Xenos is the start of a journey for Eisenhorn. The man who is telling this story is not the man he will become in the future. The path he takes in the two books that follow, Malleus and Hereticus, will force him to do terrible things, but in this first story we see him perhaps at his best: uncompromising, intelligent, aware of the edges of his own mortality. One of the many things that Dan Abnett excels at here is creating not only a character that we like, but one that we empathise with enough to stick with when we see the dark places his choices lead him to.
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Or hire a load of unknowns with proper midlands accents.
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