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So it is not a complete rulebook and on needs to buy full rules separately? That makes it a lot worse deal.

BTW, it this again one of those situations the starter will be gone in a week, and cannot be bought later?

   
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I hope the card packs stick around, can't quite stretch to it this month but will be going in deep the next payday.

Space Marine stuff will be great, not sure I fancy Howling Griffon colours at that scale mind


 
   
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If Astartes turn up, I expect properly sick turns from their aircraft, given their genhanced nature and Gs and that,

   
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 Crimson wrote:
So it is not a complete rulebook and on needs to buy full rules separately? That makes it a lot worse deal.

It explicitly says that the full rules are available in the starter AND Rynn's World.:
Warhammer Community wrote:This starter set makes getting stuck in with Aeronautica Imperialis super easy, containing the full rules, an Area of Engagement battlemat, two squadrons of aircraft to game with, and more!
Warhammer Community wrote:What’s more, the Rynn’s World book contains the full rules for Aeronautica Imperialis, so you’ll be able to play the game, even if you’re not getting the Wings of Vengeance set!


BTW, it this again one of those situations the starter will be gone in a week, and cannot be bought later?
With GW, who knows? But it probably won't be Kill Team levels of popular, and Kill Team is the only starter set that sold out. You can still get Necromunda: Underhive, Warcry, Blood Bowl, Soul Wars, Dark Imperium, and they even brought back Adeptus Titanicus Grandmaster's Edition after it sold out.
   
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Cary, NC

The target markers (in the Warhammer Community article) are labelled 1,2,3,4,5,4,7,8,9,10,11,12 in Roman numerals.

That's probably just an error, but why in the world would you Photoshop in a second number IV when you bothered painting up numbers 1-12 otherwise? Did the office cat bat the #6 one under the fridge?

 
   
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California

I'm impressed with what i'm seeing but I bet most of these things like the dice/cards/board won't be back once they sell out.

 
   
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USA

If the "How to play videos" this week look fun I'll definitely pick up the starter and the card packs, and will snag the campaign book (nice that it includes the full rules) larger board (Really pretty bummed the starter one is a poster), and some additional planes next paycheck. Hopefully the board/cards/dice stick around for a while.

Also it seems the starter gives you a full marauder kit, half a thunderbolt kit, half a dakkajet kit, and half a fighta-bomba kit. Nice to see GW breaking up kits to put in a starter to get you some variety, I imagine this has to do with the way the sprues are structured, but I still enjoy it.

Also Rynn's World is an excellent choice for a campaign. That's such an iconic piece of fluff.

 
   
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Unless the starter is a really good deal this seems like one to get separately vs the starter set.

Curious on how much more map you get with the add on version.
   
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I get why a grid would be a good thing for a game of this type. But being limited to the size of the available hex map is definitely a (minor)downside.


Might actually pass on the starter box after seeing what else is out at the same time. With the full rules in the Rynns world book, a bigger(and sturdier) board, separate tokens and more models in most of the kits. Its looking less like a starter and more like a taster box.

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Compared to last year's Titanicus, this is an excellent launch line up that cannot be faulted.

Personally I won't be going the starter set route, because I'm already eyeing up the Rynn's World book and individual aircraft packs - not to mention everything else! For now, probably just the Rynn-rule book or a squadron for HW.

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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Alaska

Does the Rynn's World box come with the planes? I definitely want the campaign book and box, but I might also get the starter box if that's the way to get the models at a discount. Having a spare rulebook wouldn't be the worst thing since there's a good chance I'll be providing both sides when I play this game.

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 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Does the Rynn's World box come with the planes? I definitely want the campaign book and box, but I might also get the starter box if that's the way to get the models at a discount. Having a spare rulebook wouldn't be the worst thing since there's a good chance I'll be providing both sides when I play this game.


Rynn’s world campaign is just a book, not another box.
   
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A video on the contents of the starter box...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_AIN_yvXU

Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.

 
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
A video on the contents of the starter box...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_AIN_yvXU


So the mat is paper and about 17x17 by the looks of it, and, as I speculated, the larger, cardboard mat is day 1 DLC.

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USA

 lord_blackfang wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
A video on the contents of the starter box...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_AIN_yvXU


Not showing the game board, which interests me the most


I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but he does mention a few minutes in when flipping through the rules the game board is 2.5' by 2.5' (75 x 75 cm) and the rules state a small dog fight is generally played on a 3'x3'. Not sure if that helps at all. He also mentioned different time frames for different numbers of ships, so I reckon all different levels of game play (from 2 planes a side to 12) are supported in the book.

 
   
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Given that each set of aircraft is probably 35USD each, you get 4 of them, the price isn't that bad for 2019 GW.

Paper board and booklet rulebook is kinda wonky, could've been cardboard board.
   
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Chopstick wrote:
Given that each set of aircraft is probably 35USD each, you get 4 of them, the price isn't that bad for 2019 GW.

Paper board and booklet rulebook is kinda wonky, could've been cardboard board.


Paper board may be to cut back time for reprints if needed.
   
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Paper board could also be because it fits in the box size.

One major downside of the starter is it only had a single scenario in the rulebook, where the Rynn's World book has 6.

 
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Does the Rynn's World box come with the planes? I definitely want the campaign book and box, but I might also get the starter box if that's the way to get the models at a discount. Having a spare rulebook wouldn't be the worst thing since there's a good chance I'll be providing both sides when I play this game.


Rynn’s world campaign is just a book, not another box.

There's also a box, but looking closer at the smaller print on front I guess it's just be a cardboard game mat/board.

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SamusDrake wrote:
Compared to last year's Titanicus, this is an excellent launch line up that cannot be faulted.


What do you mean? The only fault I can recall with Titanicus was how quickly it sold out. I doubt this will be any different in that regard, since GW loves the illusion that 'selling out' brings.

This is two factions, a handful of planes and a bunch of bobbins and tchotchkes.

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Voss wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Compared to last year's Titanicus, this is an excellent launch line up that cannot be faulted.


What do you mean? The only fault I can recall with Titanicus was how quickly it sold out. I doubt this will be any different in that regard, since GW loves the illusion that 'selling out' brings.

This is two factions, a handful of planes and a bunch of bobbins and tchotchkes.


I can't speak for the game of Titanicus, as I never have played nor do I know anyone that has played it. I think what Samus is alluding to is that if you want to try the game you can get everything you need to be introduced to the game for roughly 85 USD. There are a lot of people who are willing to try a new minis game for 85 bucks. Locally Titanicus was dead on the vine in my metro. No one was willing to drop 300 bucks to try an unknown game. My lGS got three copies, one sold to a guy who just wanted to paint the models. The other two sat on the shelves for months until they sold at a 40% off sale. Of the 3 local LGS I go to (Including one very big one) I have never seen a single person playing Titanicus, buying Titanicus products, or an event on a calendar. The big LGS had quite a few copies of the 300 boxed set months after it sold out online.

Now this is antidotal, because clearly Titanicus sold well online (and probably in some areas), but most people I have talked to in the States don't have anyone that plays it in their metros (and some don't even have stores that sell it). I think this is largely because of the cost of entry, because from all I have read online the game is rather fun. With a reasonably priced starter set, I think a lot more people will give IA a go.

 
   
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Voss wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Compared to last year's Titanicus, this is an excellent launch line up that cannot be faulted.


What do you mean? The only fault I can recall with Titanicus was how quickly it sold out. I doubt this will be any different in that regard, since GW loves the illusion that 'selling out' brings.

This is two factions, a handful of planes and a bunch of bobbins and tchotchkes.


This box give you a squadron of 80-100 pts for each side, with different aircraft and some loadout choice.

AT "Starter" give you one-third of a Titan maniple for each side, no option at all. It's a value bundle, not a "starter set". Well you can play straight from the box if you really want to, play one-third of a titan maniple of course. AT at launch also didn't have any other titan choice, so even if you buy the extra, you only get 3 Warlord sitting at a corner taking potshot at each other until the knight banner can get into melee range.

Oh yeah since all the basic Titans had rule so you can say "why not using proxy?" In that case I might as well say skip the GM box and just buy the ruleset and play with all proxy titans instead. Instant value.

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Holy gak, those Navy dice! Why can’t main GW studio make such lovely dice? Why??

   
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Chopstick wrote:
AT "Starter" give you one-third of a Titan maniple for each side, no option at all. It's a value bundle, not a "starter set". Well you can play straight from the box if you really want to, play one-third of a titan maniple of course. AT at launch also didn't have any other titan choice, so even if you buy the extra, you only get 3 Warlord sitting at a corner taking potshot at each other until the knight banner can get into melee range.

Oh yeah since all the basic Titans had rule so you can say "why not using proxy?" In that case I might as well say skip the GM box and just buy the ruleset and play with all proxy titans instead. Instant value.


And how much points we expect AI to play? AT one gave you like 2/3 of standardish point size of army in one go so for AI to match point sizes need to be around 150 pts then for standard game.

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tneva82 wrote:

And how much points we expect AI to play? AT one gave you like 2/3 of standardish point size of army in one go so for AI to match point sizes need to be around 150 pts then for standard game.


Yes if you also take the titan from the other side to use, and you still can't fill a maniple to play a proper game, and now you play with 2 third of a maniple the other guy had to play with imaginary titans.

Okay.



In the AI rulebook "dogfight" scenario it say a force can range from 25 to 250 points. So 100 pts seem good enough.Different scenario had different points for force, like the old one. Which usually range from 50-300+ pts.

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USA

tneva82 wrote:
Chopstick wrote:
AT "Starter" give you one-third of a Titan maniple for each side, no option at all. It's a value bundle, not a "starter set". Well you can play straight from the box if you really want to, play one-third of a titan maniple of course. AT at launch also didn't have any other titan choice, so even if you buy the extra, you only get 3 Warlord sitting at a corner taking potshot at each other until the knight banner can get into melee range.

Oh yeah since all the basic Titans had rule so you can say "why not using proxy?" In that case I might as well say skip the GM box and just buy the ruleset and play with all proxy titans instead. Instant value.


And how much points we expect AI to play? AT one gave you like 2/3 of standardish point size of army in one go so for AI to match point sizes need to be around 150 pts then for standard game.


I'm not sure what or if there is a Standard for AI. The unboxing video posted earlier in this third has the presenter going over the rules and he mentions that the rules stats games that last 20-30 minutes for a a couple planes a side, and up to 2 to 3 hours for 12 planes a side. He also mentioned different table sizes for different game sizes. I image something around 4-8 planes (depending on faction) per side will be the average game.

 
   
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Looking good, really hope they can keep this in stock for a while as it will be ages before I can get a copy. Really happy to see the ground installations are coming so soon so the game will have some variety in play and not just be an endless dogfight.
Also agree with CragHack those are some really sweet dice!

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Could anyone familar with the original please tell me if there is rules for damage in the game ( crippled planes ), or are planes just fully functional or destroyed?. Which doesnt seem very thematic to me.

Thanks
   
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meade2763 wrote:
Could anyone familar with the original please tell me if there is rules for damage in the game ( crippled planes ), or are planes just fully functional or destroyed?. Which doesnt seem very thematic to me.

Thanks


Nope. No system damage or X-wing damage deck

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 Thargrim wrote:
I'm impressed with what i'm seeing but I bet most of these things like the dice/cards/board won't be back once they sell out.


It’s hard to say.

Whilst the recent Necromunda cards were disappointingly short lived, with seemingly no plan to reprint? The stuff we’re seeing here seems more integral to the game, akin to the Titan Terminals. Those sold out because GW underestimates demand, and couldn’t simply reprint at the drop of a hat.

Here? Well, I’m hoping they’ve learned a lesson.

   
 
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