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 Thargrim wrote:

Unfortunately the card play board sold out on the US site. If they can't keep a playable surface for this game in stock when it 100% needs one to even play it then that is a bad sign. I know people are going to say use 3rd party mats but that won't fly when my LGS is a GW.

And this is the achillies heel of the new edition. Also I'm sure at some point players will start asking for larger game boards...

Pre-order next week, look like we'll get some underwing grot bombs. Wish they'd go for the old school shark face grot bomb instead.

I’m mildly surprised people like the Grot Bommer aesthetic much more than the ‘Eavy Bommer, they look so similar to each other to my eye and I’m usually pedantic about such things.

Maybe it’s just that the Eavy Bommer isn’t painted very well by GW, the paint job makes it look very flat.

SamusDrake wrote:
And this is the achillies heel of the new edition. Also I'm sure at some point players will start asking for larger game boards...

For some reason, card items, from this to command terminals for Titanicus, have been difficult for GW to stock properly.

Makes me wonder if it's a supplier cost issue.

 schoon wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
And this is the achillies heel of the new edition. Also I'm sure at some point players will start asking for larger game boards...

For some reason, card items, from this to command terminals for Titanicus, have been difficult for GW to stock properly.

Makes me wonder if it's a supplier cost issue.

One of my local GW stores has a “get it while you can” shelf, and much of the AI stuff, including the board, was moved there a few weeks after release. Makes me think GW never intended to stock it for long, but then the question is what the hell were they planning since you need a hex board to play.

I think AI going to a hex board was one of the sillier things GW chose to do, it’s nice in that ranges and fire arcs are a unambiguous, but by nature when it comes to aerial games you want big boards and big hex boards are bloody expensive.

 Thargrim wrote:

 schoon wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
I'd need two forces because otherwise it'd never see play instead of "most likely never see play..."

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If Eldar were out I'd have no choice but to get a Hemlock fighter wing.

According to FW on the Twitch feed, they've already got 3 more factions developed, one of which is purportedly Eldar.

By that they probably meant rules wise, not sculpts. Eldar would fit into the game really well though, so would Tau.

YES!
I was just about to ask when they going to bring more fractions in?
So Eldar....but when and what others

Chaos and SMs because GW lacks design imagination.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I’m mildly surprised people like the Grot Bommer aesthetic much more than the ‘Eavy Bommer, they look so similar to each other to my eye and I’m usually pedantic about such things.

Maybe it’s just that the Eavy Bommer isn’t painted very well by GW, the paint job makes it look very flat.

For me it is the biplane tail on the eavy bommer. Looks off. And I like the twin back/waist guns more than the single flakkagun. Nose is fine on both, but I do like the fixed mount of the grot bomma more than the turret.

Extra Grot bomb sprue! YAY!

Yes!! Do you have a link to the source, can't find it for some reason...

Edit: I see it on the NZ site here, but it looks like those are just the 4 grot bombs from the box (2 per bommer). Is the sprue shown as being sold separately anywhere?

Link:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Aeronautica-Imperialis-Ork-Air-Waaagh-Grot-Bommers-2019

Just show that you get an extra sprue compare to the eavy bommer. They gave you 6 grot pilots, so you can use a knife and cut some opening on the hanging grot bombs to create another 2 free flying bombs.

Chopstick wrote:
Just show that you get an extra sprue compare to the eavy bommer. They gave you 6 grot pilots, so you can use a knife and cut some opening on the hanging grot bombs to create another 2 free flying bombs.

You have a funny definition of "free", you're just converting 2 of the wing mounted ones to flying ones. It looks like a pretty fiddly conversion.

You get 8 in total, it'd be nice if they sold that sprue separately, but I think the best use of Grot Bommers is to make your Grots hit on the turn they're released. After that, they're not very manoeuvrable and won't be terribly hard to avoid.

So you probably don't need a whole heap of flying ones for gaming purposes. Would be nice if they gave us enough parts to fully kit the Bommers with 4 Grots each though.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

You have a funny definition of "free", you're just converting 2 of the wing mounted ones to flying ones.

Read the store description the grot bombs on bases are called free-flying grot bomb. yea I missed the "-".....

Thank you for the sprue pics!

Grot bombs just make me laugh a bit.

Grot Bomm article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/12/10/grot-bomms-awaaay

Comes with special scenario: https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/e2f30645.pdf

Posted in the AoS thread:

zamerion wrote:
by the great garro

So LVO has a studio preview in a couple of days, and I'm interested to see what they've got up their sleeves. As several game systems have cleared all their previewed models/releases.

Reminder this is a GW preview, not FW, so there won't be any 30k, or Resin previews.

I've got AoS picked as being the main event, with the 'Pointy Aelves' being the flagship Reveal, But I've had solid info saying Seraphon and the Sons of behemat (AoS giants) getting Battletomes in the very near future so they could show up as well.

Regarding Specialist Games, the same source has said that a Taros Campaign expansion will be coming soon for Aeronautica, which would indicate that T'au are the next faction joining that game. BloodBowl is also getting an Underworld Denizens team, but unsure if it will be fully new sculpts,or just a merged pack of the existing sprues for Goblins and Skaven, but they should be getting a Spike! magazine, dice, cards, and pitch for sure.

This source is a trusted one, who got me info regarding the plastic ZM scenery and the Slave to Darkness battletome ahead of their reveal/leaking. However until GW formally reveal them these are still rumours, so take a healthy amount of salt with it.

regarding 40K, imagine we'll see the pixelated Primaris skimmer and bikes, alongside some info for Psychic awakening book 6, and maybe 7+.

What are you all hoping to see?

Tau before Eldar or Tyranids - what madness is this!

Though honestly AI getting more Xenos is a very positive thing!

Is it too much to hope for the Manta this early in the life of AI? That alone would be enough to get me collecting a whole fleet...

Manta with tiny Crisis suits , skyray and hammer head that it can deploy!

T'au next? Called it!

But if they're doing Taros, that might mean we're also getting the Valkyrie, Vulture and Lightning!

All in for a tau barracuda at this scale, hope this isn't bad information.

Fingers crossed!

I thought last year GW said the way for AI to introduce new factions would be expansions based around campaigns. Taros Campaign implies Tau vs Imperial for sure and this sounds good too.

Even that Twitch stream last year had Andy Hoare saying there were scout class aircraft just about ready for release. Which would be nice as the rulebook made references to scout classes and in the missions, they were listed as a type. Even though the Marauder Destroyer can be used as a transport I still had fingers crossed transport flyers like Valkyries would be released eventually.

Any chance FW would be involved too?
Anyway, not too long to find out now I guess

 BrookM wrote:
T'au next? Called it!

But if they're doing Taros, that might mean we're also getting the Valkyrie, Vulture and Lightning!

And the Marauder Vigilant. That had quite a big showing in the campaign

I'm waiting for the Avenger fighter. The only other Imperial fighter that have firepower to match the Thunderbolt.

 Overread wrote:
Tau before Eldar or Tyranids - what madness is this!

Though honestly AI getting more Xenos is a very positive thing!

I wouldn't expect to see Tyranids anytime soon, if ever.

I'm waiting for the Avenger fighter. The only other Imperial fighter that have firepower to match the Thunderbolt.

I think the new Thunderbolt Fury effectively made the Avenger Strike Fighter redundant/obsolete. The Thunderbolt Fury packs twin Avenger Bolt Cannons, twin lascannons, and 2 pairs of wing hardpoints. The Avenger has one Avenger Bolt Cannon, twin lascannons, one pair of hardpoints and a defensive stubber.

What people don't realize is Avenger can have guns on hard point, 2 extra Missile launcher (not to be confused with one use missile )/auto cannon/multi-laser, bring its firepower comparable to Thunderbolt, with better maneuverability

Even better, if they allow Punisher gatling cannon as a hard point option it will have more firepower than the Thunderbolt.

And who's to say we won't see avenger variants with the Avenger Cannon replaced with something else

It makes sense, they still probably have the files for the old Tau craft from AI 1. All they need to do is scale them up a bit and it is ready to go.

Uh… what ‘files’ would those be? Cross-cut? Diamond grit? AI was discontinued before GW even started experimenting with digital sculpting. And the 40k scale originals were even earlier than that.

 Easy E wrote:
It makes sense, they still probably have the files for the old Tau craft from AI 1. All they need to do is scale them up a bit and it is ready to go.

One big question is are they going to use the original barracuda or the redesigned one that more closely matches the tiger shark?