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Hello? New here? This is GW. Hardcore FOMO and sudden discontinuation are standard MO. If you want a miniature you should buy it on preorder and even that's not entirely guaranteed. Don't sleep on models you want. You snooze you lose.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Hello? New here? This is GW. Hardcore FOMO and sudden discontinuation are standard MO. If you want a miniature you should buy it on preorder and even that's not entirely guaranteed. Don't sleep on models you want. You snooze you lose.

The main reason I have outstanding things I want is because this gak is expensive, so I don't like having a big pile of shame.

But it's more just sad that GW aren't supporting the game, I have enough models for my squadrons, but there's now 0% chance of getting anyone else into it, and also it drives home Epic being HH only. If they had plans to expand Epic to 40k you wouldn't think they'd discontinue the 40k AI models.

Overall, it just sours me on GW at a time when, as an Epic enthusiast, I should be excited about that release.

None of it's last chance to buy on the UK webstore

Billicus wrote:
None of it's last chance to buy on the UK webstore

I was curious in case it was just the US, but it is on the UK store too when I look? All Xenos/non-Imperial, plus the Valkyries. All have the hourglass underneath the pricing that says “Last chance to buy” when clicked.

Billicus wrote:
None of it's last chance to buy on the UK webstore

Yeah it is, there's the little timer icon in the bottom left corner, if you click on it a pop up appears saying "Last Chance to Buy".

 stonehorse wrote:
Was juat looking at the AI stuff yesterday, and thinking about buying some Orks and Tau, the two Xenos I don't have.

Went back today, and Tau Baracudas are gone. Luckily I was able to buy some Orks.

Sad to see AI go, we all knew it was a matter of time when HH Epic was announced... just thought we might have had a warning. Guess GW want to kill off the game around the back of the shed where no one can see the massacre.

Oh no! I almost brought big bundle of 2nd hand stuff NIB the other day, but passed on it as there was more Tau Baracudas in there than I'd have use for (Tau are like the only army I don't have for Epic, and unlikely to ever buy). I brought the Ork stuff I need elsewhere last night and looks like the listing is gone now too. I'd have brought it if I know that I could have split the Tau on locally!

It is pretty sad. The game obviously hasn’t done great, and is pretty shallow by most accounts, but the models are lovely and it’s not a great sign for Xenos in this scale in the future.

Shallow games are good when played between other GW games. We like the odd whizz around the skies.

I only got into AI due to the Eldar release. Most of our few AI players only have Xenos. :(

I told people to hoard this stuff like a year ago. Don't think GW plan to shelf these forever, Maybe wait 5 years for the 40k epic. Assuming GW didn't suffer any crisis during the period.

GW still has the digital assets of all the xenos fliers and the mold masters, so they can still reintroduce (with new SKUs and higher price obvs) all of these if a 40K Epic scale game manifests some time in the future. But seeing as they are going OOP for now, it is likely that a 40K version of Epic is not in the cards.

I'll give it another 20 years

 ImAGeek wrote:
It is pretty sad. The game obviously hasn’t done great, and is pretty shallow by most accounts, but the models are lovely and it’s not a great sign for Xenos in this scale in the future.

I kept waiting on them to do Chaos stuff.I wonder how many folks sat on the sidelines like waiting for their faction.

Still waiting for Tyranids!

Touching Down, for now
With the looming arrival of Legions Imperialis, you might notice that some of the older range of epic scale Aeronautica Imperialis miniatures are moving to Last Chance To Buy. The xenos aircraft of the Aeldari, Orks and T’au as well as some Imperial planes will be leaving the range for the foreseeable future.



So if you have an air wing that you’ve been hoping to reinforce, now is the time. The majority of Imperial flyers will remain on-station for battles in Legions Imperialis. And you can still play aerial battles in the Age of Darkness with Horus Heresy: Aeronautica Imperialis – which will still be available.

This should have been an article, not a pop out on the WHC page.

It's a bit of a joke really, I've missed out on a second Vampire Raider and the Crimson Hunters because they didn't notify clearly.

Quite disappointed that the Xenos stuff is going, but they're all new enough sculpts where I could see them coming back with the inevitable 40k version of Epic.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Touching Down, for now
With the looming arrival of Legions Imperialis, you might notice that some of the older range of epic scale Aeronautica Imperialis miniatures are moving to Last Chance To Buy. The xenos aircraft of the Aeldari, Orks and T’au as well as some Imperial planes will be leaving the range for the foreseeable future.



So if you have an air wing that you’ve been hoping to reinforce, now is the time. The majority of Imperial flyers will remain on-station for battles in Legions Imperialis. And you can still play aerial battles in the Age of Darkness with Horus Heresy: Aeronautica Imperialis – which will still be available.

This should have been an article, not a pop out on the WHC page.

Surprised its got any mention at all, really. It is somewhat interesting that they say "for now" and "Foreseeable future" though, have they worded things in a way that implies there's potential to being bought back later when talking about removing items before this? They did for some of the recent time-limited vaulting stuff but that was a different matter really.

It is my own fault for not stocking up on more Ork sets when they first came out. I've slung an order in but don't expect it to get fulfilled.

I'd also put off buying eldar, as my epic collection is pretty thin and I'm not sure I'm willing to spend the money on ever completing them tbh.

I don't see them bringing them back for an updated 40k Epic though. The new Epic Legions is HH focused, but to expand to 40k would require an entirely new line as the new legion models are very distinctly HH. Not to outright say that they won't bring it back, I never expected this 30k version to be released after all, so there is always a chance.

But I honestly would have thought they would have sold the AI stuff alongside the new game for at least 12 months, as interest in this scale is going to be massively increased. I guess they didn't want to keep storing the models and don't want to risk encouraging people to go elsewhere for Epic xenos.

 Kanluwen wrote:

And you can still play aerial battles in the Age of Darkness with Horus Heresy: Aeronautica Imperialis – which will still be available.

Well, in the US at least, they’ve removed all the Areas of Engagement from sale. So while you can buy the planes and the rulebook, you’ll have nowhere to play the game on unless you draw your own hex grid.

 RexHavoc wrote:
I don't see them bringing them back for an updated 40k Epic though. The new Epic Legions is HH focused, but to expand to 40k would require an entirely new line as the new legion models are very distinctly HH. Not to outright say that they won't bring it back, I never expected this 30k version to be released after all, so there is always a chance.

If they're smart, they could return to the Epic 4th Edtion and Imperial Armour release model. That's where they put out models and army lists for a specific campaign. That way they're providing things for a historical conflict without the need to produce what's current. You could have Eldar from a specific craftworld V Space Marines from a certain chapter and specific Imperial Guard regiment. Or they could re-do Vraks where they re-use a lot of Solar Auxilia Models and, if they produce Militia models for Epic, maybe include those as well?

EDIT - Already posted.

MrHobbles wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

And you can still play aerial battles in the Age of Darkness with Horus Heresy: Aeronautica Imperialis – which will still be available.

Well, in the US at least, they’ve removed all the Areas of Engagement from sale. So while you can buy the planes and the rulebook, you’ll have nowhere to play the game on unless you draw your own hex grid.

The hex boards were always one of my gripes with this game. They release a hex based game, but make it hard to get the boards, and the boards they do release are way too small anyway.

The whole AI thing has just been depressing. AI1 was one of my favourite games, it had some flaws but they were mostly minor and could have been easily fixed. Hell, there was even a WW2 dogfighting game that was built off the AI1 rules as a basis as it was pretty good for squadron sized games, it felt like it had just the right amount of abstraction for a game with handful of aircraft per side.

But instead of fixing the minor issues, they released a game, AI2, that broke half of what worked in the original game, had the depth of a kiddy pool, wasn't properly supported, was poorly balanced, and often didn't even play like an dogfighting game should. Not to mention the silly way they handled rules releases.

Could have been such a good game, I so desperately wanted to have a game that could convince my friends to get into that wasn't too expensive and was good for short quick games when we didn't want to set up 100 models for a full day game. I don't think GW were trying to compete with Xwing, but they should have tried, maybe the rules wouldn't have been so bad.

And now it's going to sink slowly into the dark depths of dead games that aren't good enough for the community to continue on with.

Yep, it is official

 ph34r wrote:
GW are seriously squatting the entire Aeronautica Imperialis game? Didn’t it just get released like 2 damn years ago?

Launched in 2019

so it lasted four times longer than Gorka Morka and twice as long as Man O War if that helps

Whats the likelihood that the forgeworld stuff currently listed as "temporarily out of stock" comes back in stock before the "last chance to buy" period ends?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Whats the likelihood that the forgeworld stuff currently listed as "temporarily out of stock" comes back in stock before the "last chance to buy" period ends?

I'm going to guess "low".

FW's labelling of out of stock / temporarily out of stock is abysmally inconsistent.

The last wave of FW removals for 40K didn't come with any new stocking; they just announced it and the stock ran out in about 1-2 days on almost all of it.

The only thing I saw come back was a Malanthrope and I suspect that was just a "found it behind the counter" or "cancelled order" item.

Dont think AI2 ever really stood a chance. I doubt it would of ever come out without X-Wing but they failed what made X-Wing so popular - the setting and the low investment of actually picking new units up (no time cost for xwing minis)

No doubt the Epic Legions stuff will also have a shiny new price tag.

arcanum wrote:
Dont think AI2 ever really stood a chance. I doubt it would of ever come out without X-Wing but they failed what made X-Wing so popular - the setting and the low investment of actually picking new units up (no time cost for xwing minis)

I'm sure the fact that X-Wing has a competitive tight set of exciting and engaging rules and AI2 doesn't has nothing to do with it.

chaos0xomega wrote:

arcanum wrote:
Dont think AI2 ever really stood a chance. I doubt it would of ever come out without X-Wing but they failed what made X-Wing so popular - the setting and the low investment of actually picking new units up (no time cost for xwing minis)

I'm sure the fact that X-Wing has a competitive tight set of exciting and engaging rules and AI2 doesn't has nothing to do with it.

That hex map alone screams 'Fun!' like a slightly off-centered black and white copy from a late 1980s wargaming magazine.

Tsagualsa wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

arcanum wrote:
Dont think AI2 ever really stood a chance. I doubt it would of ever come out without X-Wing but they failed what made X-Wing so popular - the setting and the low investment of actually picking new units up (no time cost for xwing minis)

I'm sure the fact that X-Wing has a competitive tight set of exciting and engaging rules and AI2 doesn't has nothing to do with it.

That hex map alone screams 'Fun!' like a slightly off-centered black and white copy from a late 1980s wargaming magazine.

You do realise that Hexmap loving Battletech is currently enjoying perhaps its biggest surge of players ever

There isn't a problem with hexmaps; heck the use of them actually gets around some limitations/issues with free-form moving. It's not a straight cut "X is superior to Y" situation.