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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Why is everyone so butthurt about the size of Teela's muscles in this? She has the exact same size muscles as Evil-Lynn. They are practically the same base form with a clothing and hair swap.

It's freaking Eternia. Everyone is some flavor of barbarian, even if they are using guns!

Because haters gunna hate.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Why is everyone so butthurt about the size of Teela's muscles in this? She has the exact same size muscles as Evil-Lynn. They are practically the same base form with a clothing and hair swap.

It's freaking Eternia. Everyone is some flavor of barbarian, even if they are using guns!

I blame 90 years worth of superhero comics and cartoons teaching multiple generations that male heroes should be buff, while female heroes should look like catwalk models.

It's absurd, and I for one hope this trend of allowing women to actually look like capable warriors continues.

 Argive wrote:

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:

 Argive wrote:
I guess your signature quotes are kind of ironic...

What a disgusting take.

You should slow down a little and stop getting worked up

I'm not getting worked up I'm just not engaging with someone saying:

I'm sorry, but you haven't experienced true grief and your opinion is invalid.
Says me.

I mean.... Its not really worth getting worked dup against if that level of garbage is being flunged at you.
Your post is also now on the garbage pile. Sorry.

Whatever

One thing is for sure; Evil Lyn needs to let her hair down more often!

 LunarSol wrote:
Ultimately I can't help shake the feeling that what the show really needs is an episode or two of reestablishing the original dynamic before subverting it. Like, in my head the world was always kind of a barbaric wasteland. The loss of magic doesn't really make things feel any worse off than they already did, despite constantly being told how bad things are now.

Show needed two episodes before Skeletor's big heist. One to reaffirm the original setting, one where Skeletor finds out all this pulled-from-my-ass hidden history.

SamusDrake wrote:
One thing is for sure; Evil Lyn needs to let her hair down more often!

Her superpower isn't magic, it's being able to hide that mane under that helmet ^^

Voss wrote:
I think you all need to go back to the beginning of this very thread and the news from the 2019 convention were it was suggested that he man wouldn't be the focus, and it was called Masters of the Universe and not he man for a reason. There was a two year warning on this 'bait and switch'

I haven't yet watched this - I'm waiting for the second half to be available, same as I did for The Long Halloween. That being said, if He-Man is in the second half as little as I have heard he is in the first half, then I will readily admit Warboss was right and I was wrong.

 Albertorius wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
One thing is for sure; Evil Lyn needs to let her hair down more often!

Her superpower isn't magic, it's being able to hide that mane under that helmet ^^

Yes, she sure knows how to tuck it up there, doesn't she!

And fast. There's one sequence, I think when Mer Man arrives on the boat, where she has it all tucked away in nanoseconds!

 Azreal13 wrote:
And fast. There's one sequence, I think when Mer Man arrives on the boat, where she has it all tucked away in nanoseconds!

Must be a tiktok poster.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Ultimately I can't help shake the feeling that what the show really needs is an episode or two of reestablishing the original dynamic before subverting it. Like, in my head the world was always kind of a barbaric wasteland. The loss of magic doesn't really make things feel any worse off than they already did, despite constantly being told how bad things are now.

Show needed two episodes before Skeletor's big heist. One to reaffirm the original setting, one where Skeletor finds out all this pulled-from-my-ass hidden history.

Yeah, that. The 'failed for years and years' but suddenly knows layers upon layers of secrets and pulled it all off with the most basic and transparent of ruses really doesn't work.

They could have also gone with a couple episodes of Merc Teela and just shown off the relevant bits of Ep 1 in flashbacks, since they go ahead and do relationship building flashbacks in the very next episode anyway.

The biggest problem for the series is they didn't do a week by week release OR a one and done release. First few episodes and a hard stop is making for a hard sell. There is obviously more, but they picked one of the worst possible ways to kick it off AND cut it up.

I wonder if Netflix simply didn't approve enough running time to do exposition properly.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I wonder if Netflix simply didn't approve enough running time to do exposition properly.

Budgetary constraints are always an issue with Netflix series.

random idea. a sorta sequel to the live action movie
Dolph Lundgren as King Adam/ Old Man He-man
if it did well, maybe use the momentum to give us King Conan while Arnold still can get in shape enough for it

Eh, at this point just get Henry Cavill to play Conan in a proper adaptation of any of Howard's original stories.

Do Red Nails. It has Valeria in it. Valeria is cool.

Trying for King Conan is just asking to put a stake in the property for another twenty years when it inevitably bombs.

I think a lot of you guys are forgetting what happened right before Teela's outburst at the very beginning.

The King banished her Father for keeping Adams secret and then ordered Teela to escort her own father out of the throne room. Then she launches her "How DARE you!" speech and storms out. It isn't just Teela grieving, it's Teela grieving and watching others who are grieving start to turn on each other looking for someone to blame, and choosing not to be a part of it.

 insaniak wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Why is everyone so butthurt about the size of Teela's muscles in this? She has the exact same size muscles as Evil-Lynn. They are practically the same base form with a clothing and hair swap.

It's freaking Eternia. Everyone is some flavor of barbarian, even if they are using guns!

I blame 90 years worth of superhero comics and cartoons teaching multiple generations that male heroes should be buff, while female heroes should look like catwalk models.

It's absurd, and I for one hope this trend of allowing women to actually look like capable warriors continues.

Well it's what people find attractive and Sex Sells. If you need more proof of this you only need to check out Just Chatting women on Twitch whether V-tubers or Super Thicc and Curvy ladies are all attractive and often have Major Boobage and Cleavage. You can tell people the opposite but thousands of consistent viewers and the ability to buy a house from OnlyFans money or money from Twitch just shows people still find these women attractive perhaps more so than they even used to. Ofc this also shows the desperation of many men out there.

Also i find it weird the Massive Muscles of women are more realistic to women and aren't body shaming while Curvy women actually are. In reality we've only shifted the ideal body from group to group but everybody else is still to be shamed i guess. Whatever it's just tiresome to see all this.

Yes, I understand that superhero woman are drawn the way they are because it sells. My point was that it's stupid for them to all be drawn that way, and I would much rather see them drawn in a way that is believable. Wonder Woman shouldn't look like a catwalk model. She should look like someone who can punch through a tank... you know, the way a super-strong male hero is drawn.

It's not about 'ideal' bodies. It's about the body looking appropriate for the role. And that's something that they got very right with this series - the update to Teela is fantastic, and I'd love to see more of it where it's appropriate.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Why is everyone so butthurt about the size of Teela's muscles in this? She has the exact same size muscles as Evil-Lynn. They are practically the same base form with a clothing and hair swap.

It's freaking Eternia. Everyone is some flavor of barbarian, even if they are using guns!

I blame 90 years worth of superhero comics and cartoons teaching multiple generations that male heroes should be buff, while female heroes should look like catwalk models.

It's absurd, and I for one hope this trend of allowing women to actually look like capable warriors continues.

Well it's what people find attractive and Sex Sells.

Turns out... not quite. Sex sells... if what you're selling is sex. It doesn't really help all that much to sell anything else, according to most studies.

 insaniak wrote:
Yes, I understand that superhero woman are drawn the way they are because it sells. My point was that it's stupid for them to all be drawn that way, and I would much rather see them drawn in a way that is believable. Wonder Woman shouldn't look like a catwalk model. She should look like someone who can punch through a tank... you know, the way a super-strong male hero is drawn.

It's not about 'ideal' bodies. It's about the body looking appropriate for the role. And that's something that they got very right with this series - the update to Teela is fantastic, and I'd love to see more of it where it's appropriate.

My thoughts exactly. There is a place for a female character who's a svelte scholarly mage, and then there's a place for a representative of a race of basically techno-barbarians. I don't mind it in cartoons and comics that are supposed to be overly-exaggerated when it comes to archetypes, both male and female.

And let's not forget




One of the most bad ass women in comics.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Yes, I understand that superhero woman are drawn the way they are because it sells. My point was that it's stupid for them to all be drawn that way, and I would much rather see them drawn in a way that is believable. Wonder Woman shouldn't look like a catwalk model. She should look like someone who can punch through a tank... you know, the way a super-strong male hero is drawn.

It's not about 'ideal' bodies. It's about the body looking appropriate for the role. And that's something that they got very right with this series - the update to Teela is fantastic, and I'd love to see more of it where it's appropriate.

My thoughts exactly. There is a place for a female character who's a svelte scholarly mage, and then there's a place for a representative of a race of basically techno-barbarians. I don't mind it in cartoons and comics that are supposed to be overly-exaggerated when it comes to archetypes, both male and female.

Teela isn't even particularly over-exaggerated (and Andra isn't at all). She has muscles, but they aren't extreme, and her build, while tall, is actually very normal- she's broad in the shoulders, waist AND hips, which works for her, as it does for a lot a women.
I've see that basic build several times a day, if not quite so athletic. In fact, as I looked up at one particular woman this morning I thought, 'this is basically a real version of Teela.'

 Lance845 wrote:
One of the most bad ass women in comics.

That's not Squirrel Girl.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
One of the most bad ass women in comics.

That's not Squirrel Girl.

They said One Of, not The.

 AduroT wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
One of the most bad ass women in comics.

That's not Squirrel Girl.

They said One Of, not The.

And I said that it wasn't Squirrel Girl, which it isn't.

So I caught up to episode five yesterday. That... was bland. And very, very, very rushed.

And they set up at least have a dozen of Chekov's guns (from the 'things are not what they seem' factory), which are either going to fire simultaneously in the next bit, or we're going to have to wait for the really obviously telegraphed heel-face turn, the 'not actually dead' and the 'who has the power now' moments.

That said, given the butcher's bill so far, I figure the 'turn' will end in death, and I'm going to be sad about it, because Lyn is obviously the best character in the show.

I do want to know why someone thought that the initial arc should end in 15 minutes of the heroes standing still like idiots, not reacting to ANYTHING happening around them. That was just amazingly anti-climatic and dull, with very bizarre pacing.
The whole set of episodes is very keen to have people go through a tense confrontation and either just trail off unresolved or just... wander away.

Voss wrote:
I do want to know why someone thought that the initial arc should end in 15 minutes of the heroes standing still like idiots, not reacting to ANYTHING happening around them. That was just amazingly anti-climatic and dull, with very bizarre pacing.

That's been happening all the way through. I suspect it's supposed to be another nod to the original cartoon, where a ridiculously low budget meant that anything in the background only moved if it absolutely had to, and everyone was quite happy to just stand around for a little exposition in the middle of a battle.

 insaniak wrote:

Voss wrote:
I do want to know why someone thought that the initial arc should end in 15 minutes of the heroes standing still like idiots, not reacting to ANYTHING happening around them. That was just amazingly anti-climatic and dull, with very bizarre pacing.

That's been happening all the way through. I suspect it's supposed to be another nod to the original cartoon, where a ridiculously low budget meant that anything in the background only moved if it absolutely had to, and everyone was quite happy to just stand around for a little exposition in the middle of a battle.

Yeah, you're not wrong about it happening repeatedly. The scene where Man-at-Arms 'rescued' them from Mer-man and flunkies was a puzzler in the same way. It also felt excessive that he said goodbye, followed them all the way out there, then immediately left again. Basically undermined the journey as something trivial just so they could have one specific character show off (rather than any of the ones that were actually on the journey). He was plenty able to show off at the beginning and end (immediately when they came back).

But this involved everyone standing in a round room with all eyes watching Adam hold up the sword and get... interrupted. They couldn't possibly have not seen what was happening.
And then everyone paused to listen to what was an entire Joker rant rather than doing something about... anything.

I don't think it was a nod to the original's crappy budget, though. I just think Kevin is bad at pacing action scenes and chose to plod all the way through a paint-by-numbers Heroes Journey (rushing the Hero's refusal and acceptance just a wee bit, as well as skipping out on the introspection at what are supposed to be growth moments) with a touch of Orpheus rescuing Eurydice. Its like Kevin Smith was channeling Joss Whedon for this arc, and was fanboying a bit too much about working with Hamil again.

Apparently view rate on Netflix plummeted, no rewatch.

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Apparently view rate on Netflix plummeted, no rewatch.

Where do you check for ratings like that?